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I was really hoping that these terrible PizzaCake comics would stay on reddit. Every single one of her comics is like this. There’s no punchline. It’s just self-righteous whining one way or another. Her whole shtick on reddit is angering people in the comments and then making a comic about them. Literally every single comic. I’ve got a few thousand webcomics saved and none by her for a reason.
Edit: Actually, this comic kind of perfectly sums up everything I hate about her. She’s denying the dude a platform by… essentially giving him a platform. “You don’t bother me so much that I made a whole comic about you and how you don’t bother me and I don’t owe you anything.” It’s performative for the sake of attention. There’s no content to this, just narcissism.
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People who complain about being blocked really are the worst.
I gotta admit, I can’t stand content I can’t engage with. What’s the point? It’s just grandstanding and blowharding.
Comic makes the exact same point as OPs but some how does it a thousand times better
I really dislike this person’s comics for some reason
Why did you tag NSFW
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Man all get comics these days seem to be mostly about people bothering her online. I get the desire to vent that frustration but it’s been a while since I’ve seen anything else.
She has posted a lot about other stuff, I don’t see that many about this myself.
Maybe it’s my feed or something. I’m glad it’s not just rant posting.
It’s really crazy how internet regressed in this regard. “Don’t feed the troll” is been the moto of the web but not it’s almost inverse. People try to justify this as justice seeking but its clearly doesn’t work.
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God I love the profit driven nature of the modern Internet that relies on engagement-by-any-means-necessary. I love it sssooooo mmuuuucchhh
Honestly I’ve come around on pizzacake. I now think it’s actually an impressive artistic feat to make a successful webcomic where your secondary main character is consistently a non-existent strawman.
It’s like social commentary on social commentary, wrapped in countless layers of irony and meta, right?
Every time I see this comic I think “you totally had a confrontation you fumbled, then came up with a response a week later and made a comic to ‘own’ someone”.
You’re onto something here
I also just generally like the Mary Sue nature of drawing yourself into your own comics and making yourself look good under all circumstances. It really communicates a lack of narcissism and arrogance.
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your secondary main character is consistently a non-existent strawman
Y’all gonna pretend the person in the comic isn’t real? I’ve seen comments of that exact nature discussing people who block others before bruh, find a legitimate comic to post this on next time
That’s fair criticism. In the comic at hand, you’re right, they’re not a non-existent strawman, as this strawman does exist. The apt critique for this specific comic is more about how blaringly obvious the conclusion that is being presented as revelatory is, so I shouldn’t have used the word “non-existent” in this specific critique. Very fair, cheers.
edit: typo
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You will notice that it was not pizzacake that posted this.
Also I think we need a reset if we’re at the point where critiquing and criticizing media is suddenly “being butthurt.”
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Pot/Kettle much? You haven’t even engaged with my criticism, since I never once have called pizzacake’s comics either “crazy” or “irrelevant” or any synonym thereof; if anything they’re too pedestrian and “low-hanging fruit,” the exact opposite of those critiques.
And you see, this right here is why some of us don’t want pizzacake’s bullshit here; it is seemingly impossible for people to engage with criticism of them honestly, for some unknown reason.
I have never once sought out a pizzacake comic to shit on. I have never once criticized pizzacake for anything outside the content of the art she has personally entered into the public square or her conduct in relation to said art. All I have ever done is engage with the art brought into the public square for consideration. This is c/comicstrips, not c/comicstripsycophantry, ostensibly a community for the discussion and consideration of this media form, not just a place for empty yes-manning.
So as for you, feel free to take your own advice and just block me if you find my content distasteful, but as for your assertion, you can kindly fuck right off with that.
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You aren’t even using that term right; I’m not asking for you to engage me in shit, nor am I feigning civility as I’ve been pretty clearly aggressive in my stance and told you to fuck off. Again, enormous pot/kettle projection. But hey, I’ll save us both the trouble and do the blocking for you. 👍
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So I’m fully expecting a big reaction given how much of a reaction this comic always provokes, I’m not a huge fan of pizzacake’s art style or the whole negativity around it but I also haven’t found a way to just filter it out without blocking the whole instance. I’m not attacking anyone though, you keep on enjoying this if you like, I’m just putting my thoughts out and I might just be missing an option.
Tell me about it. I don’t need this bland-millenial-shouting-about-their-extremely-standard-lives fodder.
I blocked her on reddit and it was good for a while.
But now people are reposting here :<
Yup I’m in agreement. Yes this is the comic strip sub, but this literally offers nothing of entertainment or comedy value at all. Plus why tf is this marked NSFW??? In reference to your question maybe block the User?
As the OP mentioned, this is the 1st time they posted this artist. If there was a single dedicated account posting PC comics, that would work, but not in this context.
I don’t mind pizzacake commics, but at this point just seeing the art style is enough to get me pre-emptivly upset at how stupid and insane the comment section is going to be.
I see it and just sigh because I know nobody will talk about the actual comic it will just be about how shitty of a person she is for X reason.
I’m out of the loop, what’s the pizza cake drama?
pizzacake is a woman with opinions. misogynists hate her for that. One time, she didn’t handle that very well. Lots of people got banned on reddit. Now people here mostly bitch about her comics being “low effort” and such, which mostly just reveals “I don’t have a legit argument to hate this person so I’m going to pointlessly criticise her work instead.”
As I’ve said in another comment, if some rando did the same scenario in ragemaker and posted it, everyone would be all over how relatable it is.
That said, it is possibly to simply not like the artstyle, or to not find the scenario relatable, or whatever criticism a person might have. Divorced of context, those criticisms sound valid. With context though, it becomes obvious that it is popular to persecute pizzacake.
persecute
Y’all have got to join us in reality.
Yes, there are some misogynists who hate pizzacake because she is a woman exercising her agency.
That is not the majority of pushback against her, just the most disgusting and vocal.
The vast majority of criticism of pizzacake is towards her lack of punchlines, constant strawmanning, the unbelievable sycophants who follow and worship her and have turned the relevant subreddit into basically /r/ChurchofPizzacake, and for pizzacake’s pattern of poor behavior in interactions on reddit and elsewhere.
There is a lot of grossness surrounding the entire pizzacake topic, yes, that’s undeniable. But to effectively chalk up all or most of the criticism as misogyny when a healthy majority of it sticks to the content of her comics or conduct in direct interactions rather than any extracurricular activities she may engage in, is just disingenuous as fuck.
I should clarify, I’m not claiming that everyone who is criticizing pizzacake is a misogynist. I am however saying that it is popular among misogynists to bully women artists and call it “criticism”, thus, the presence of certain kinds of criticism indicates an increased likelihood that the “critic” is actually a misogynist, even if the criticisms at face value are legitimate.
I shouldn’t need to have a law degree to write a comment in a comics forum.
Ah, I remember having these arguments about whether Star Wars 7 should have let Rey be a woman. Uh, I mean, a Mary Sue.
The parallels are stark indeed. Divorced of context, it’s perfectly reasonable to accept the argument that Rey is a poorly written character (because she is). Normal, well adjusted people were able to accept that the sequel trilogy sucks for numerous reasons, Rey being a poorly written character being one of them, and then move on. The problem with this criticism isn’t the criticism itself, but rather the people who bang on and on and on about it reveal that they didn’t have a problem with the writing, they had a problem with a female character having agency.
“Mind what people do, not just what they say, for deeds will betray a lie.”
For some reason PCC:s supporters never mention that she threatened to sue a subreddit for making fun of her comics. “One time she didn’t handle that very well” that’s putting it very mildly. PC is just toxic
Is that what the narrative is now? I think the critics would have mentioned it last time, they were very thorough and even cited sources.
Which tier of her patron do you subscribe to?
My dude, are you calling me a simp? I didn’t know she had a patreon before today, and I wouldn’t be a subscriber even if I did. There’s infinite porn available for free. Everything I know about pizzacake is from the comment sections (and included links) of the last 3 times one of her comics made it into my feed. I have some basic reading and comprehension skills, so it’s not hard for me to quickly see exactly what’s going on here.
I’m not your dude, guy.
My apologies for calling you a dude against your will.
Also, Guy is my father, but that’s besides the point.
The rest of my comment still stands.
I didn’t know who she was or her gender when I said I hate her art style is almost as much as Ben Garrison’s.
You forgot to mention the frequency of her posts is to drive traffic to her onlyfans.
She has an only fans??! o.O zomg
Thanks lemmy566567 for letting me know! I’ll check it out right now!
her comics are
midmediocre and you will catch a ban if you say that in r/comicsI wasn’t aware we’re bringing Reddit dramas to fester on Lemmy
That’s her biggest platform by far, so I think what they said is fair game. Does Mastodon never talk about what happens on Twitter or BlueSky? The fact Reddit is a cesspool doesn’t mean we should pretend it doesn’t exist.
It doesn’t mean we should imitate them either
But we’re not…? Someone just asked “what’s the drama?” and someone matter-of-factly said what the drama is. What makes you think anything here is imitating Reddit?
Bringing pizzacake to Lemmy and not expecting her sycophants to follow is like stealing a block of cheese from a rat and not expecting it to follow you.
I’ll try not to let it happen again.
To be fair “your comic sucks” is kind of a dickish thing to comment.
Excuse me, I thought mid meant something along the lines of mediocre, not suck.
I’m being hyperbolic.
OK. I’m not being hyperbolic.
And you were correct
It does.
It does and doesn’t.
It means ‘middle’, but to be ‘middle’ in a world of greats is to be lame and worth very little.
Think about it this way: when someone says something sucks, no one ever corrects them “nah, it’s mid,” like in a positive way.
It wasn’t intended to be either a slight or a compliment.
to be ‘middle’ in a world of greats is to be lame and worth very little
If you ain’t first, you’re last? Nah. That don’t make no sense.
Its kind of a dick move to start writing hate comments under a comic that you find mildy displeasing.
Yeah, if you have like… actual constructive feedback go for it, but “this is mid/low effort” really isn’t helpful
Yeah, I agree.
All I know is she posts lewds to her Patreon and has lots of simps
I fail to understand why posting a pair of tits is such a controversial thing to do. Maybe I’m too European to lose my marbles over some nipples.
I fail to understand why posting a pair of tits is such a controversial thing to do
Pizzacake makes a lot of feminist leaning comics which heavily criticize the patriarchy, male objectification of women and “creepy” men who comment sexual things towards women.
In light of that, a lot of people find it hypocritical that she’d sell pictures of herself online for dudes to jerk off to when that’s the exact opposite audience her comics tries to appeal to.
When the leak first happened, she presented the narrative as though her consent was violated and she was being sexually harassed by having private nudes released. When people found out that she was selling the photos publicy for money, suddenly it became aparent we werent talking about sexual abuse we were talking about piracy. It got a lot of people irritated for having been mislead, and then they started asking why the photos were there in the first place.
If she knows that she is the target of harassment campaigns, a lot of people are confused as to why she would post her nudes in a public space and not expect them to leak.
Given the fact she is a public figure who regularly makes comics out of her children, regularly gets doxxed and is targetted by hate, you would expect her to be a bit smarter about what she puts online. She’s been online for years but seeks to lack basic understanding of cause and effect online (or else she understands it all too well and plays the victim perfectly to promote herself by baiting outrage incredibly effectively).
The part of it that bothers me personally is that there are kids involved and there is a 100% chance that all the kids at her son’s school know and have looked up these nudes and her son probably gets bullied about it.
Like the green knight, for example.
She has an onlyfans
She is a proud misandrist and a camgirl. Also the punchline of most of her comics is that impotent rage allows her to yell louder than any opinions she disagrees with.
That’s not true, we also insult her half assed art style and middle of the road takes.
Case in point.
They’re literally criticizing the content of the comics and not her person, it’s the exact opposite of “case in point”
I’m here to tell you I just dislike the comic itself, I don’t even know about any controversy. I see that shit, I close it and downvote. Nearly as bad as Family Circus.
Don’t know what family circus is but yeah I don’t really like her comics and would much rather discuss why instead of talking about the unrelated BS.
It’s hugely popular but I find the humor inane and it seemed like every other one was a blatant propaganda post.
I’m unfamiliar, this is the first thing of hers I’ve encountered and I thought it fun enough to post here. Is there one of those Reasons people don’t like her?
There’s a long story involving her threatening legal action against a subreddit over people parodying her work, overall she seems to be a very thin skinned individual that doesn’t take criticism well.
Her work also just isn’t very good, in my view. Her art style is incredibly bland, and her positions on various topics are just the biggest “no shit” moments you can imagine.
She’s an example of a normal person becoming famous and having to navigate those waters without a team.
You’re a wonderful example of an outside critic without consideration. I’m thankful I’m just a nobody like you, because these critiques upset me even when I’m not involved whatsoever.
I wasn’t aware I had to be an artist to criticise Pizzacake.
And even without the drama on Reddit, which I don’t particularly care about, her work is extremely bland and unimaginative.
You don’t have to be an artist to criticize her, just like I don’t have to be a critic to recognize bandwagoning. People shit on her because it’s popular, not because of good reasons.
Continue to manifest reddit drama here, and argue for shitting on people. I’ll take my downvotes for standing up for artists. There are literally hundreds of bigger problems we should be speaking up about, this comic artist is not one of them.
Have you considered the possibility everyone is criticising her because she genuinely sucks?
Explain the difference between bandwagoning and the majoroty of people sharing the same opinion.
posts nude photos of Nurse_Robot punting a basket of puppies
You swore you’d never post that photo, I only kicked that basket because you said it was the only way you could get off
She does, however, sell nude pictures on her patron.
Lol of course it would be satansmaggotycumfart to share this tidbit
Thanks, SatansMaggotyCumFart. You’ve shown us the audience that shits on artists
I honestly don’t think she’s into that.
We won’t know unless we ask though
It’s not like the community here shits on all artists regularly, it’s just the one.
Bullying someone because everyone else does it still doesn’t make it cool dude
Gentlemen, I think I’ve found my next job. Now, if only I was good looking…
You could always paint your toenails and sell foot pics.
I mean…I wouldn’t know…
I’d have to shave my feet and get a pedicure as well, since I don’t think there is much of a market for male hobbit feet
🤔
Which is very weird, but whatever.
To be fair, if the biggest critiques of an internet celeb was that they were thin-skinned and their takes aren’t very spicy then I take that as a win in today’s environment. Hell even being “sort of an asshole” is pretty good by today’s standards.
It could be worse, but then again, people wouldn’t be posting her work all the time if she’d done something truly awful.
Instead she makes bland dross that confirms people’s opinions, and people think she’s actually creative as a result.
Maybe because the comics rarely have any substance to talk about. Besides, I don’t want to see or support someone’s work when they threaten people with litigation for making fun of and criticizing their comics
Yeah. I recommend a drink.
Same. I have no problem with her or her comics. But whenever I see one being posted, I sigh and ponder whether to open the clusterfuck that the comment section will be.
take it from someone who knew better and did it anyway, don’t engage the clusterfuck.
That’s why I blocked her.
Nobody is changing their mind from modern debates online. We are in a culture of anti-intellectualism. So there really is no point. I only block if someone is annoying or there is no point in engagement.
I don’t think that’s 100% true though. I’ve changed my mind several times but these talks needs both parties to argue in good faith not just throwing stones at each other.
The main issue with main areas where this happens is because the communication tools are incredibly limited on purpose. Its impossible to have a conversation on Instagram, twitter or tiktok or even Facebook comments. And that’s done on purpose - isn’t that crazy?
on the other hand, I generally really like discussions on hacker news because everyone at least pretends to approach in good faith and the discussion culture is quite professional. There are several small communities on the web that function this way and it really works!
the basic and long forgotten sloga. Of “don’t feed the trolls”
I accept opinions other than my own, but if there is no sincere commitment from the other, why bother. Don’t feed the trolls.
We really should have never moved from that mindset. Now it is people rage baiting with actual trauma for money or the love of the game. 🥲
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The irony of THIS comic is, you could apply that argument to every single opinion in existence.
The online comment context and usage of “Why won’t you debate, are you scared” suggests the response is directed at online trolls, people who argue in bad faith, and imperiously demand rigourous debate without offering the same let alone an ounce of intellectual generosity, i.e. sealioning. In contrast, something like a movie review is a structured evaluation is still an opinion, but it doesn’t deride readers for not engaging with it.
I DON’T OWE YOU AN AUDIENCE FOR YOUR ANNOYING BULLSHIT
Really its the same as meatspace. You don’t hang with folks you don’t like or take phone calls from them. My dream is a block thats symetrical. Blocking is in some ways creepy because its only one way.
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no I mean since its one way they can still see your stuff. I would sorta like it to be both ways. I felt this way ever since blocking cleaned up mmo chat nicely. I don’t want that person to see my stuff really.
