• Stamets@lemmy.world
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    I was really hoping that these terrible PizzaCake comics would stay on reddit. Every single one of her comics is like this. There’s no punchline. It’s just self-righteous whining one way or another. Her whole shtick on reddit is angering people in the comments and then making a comic about them. Literally every single comic. I’ve got a few thousand webcomics saved and none by her for a reason.

    Edit: Actually, this comic kind of perfectly sums up everything I hate about her. She’s denying the dude a platform by… essentially giving him a platform. “You don’t bother me so much that I made a whole comic about you and how you don’t bother me and I don’t owe you anything.” It’s performative for the sake of attention. There’s no content to this, just narcissism.

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    I gotta admit, I can’t stand content I can’t engage with. What’s the point? It’s just grandstanding and blowharding.

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      Comic makes the exact same point as OPs but some how does it a thousand times better

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    Man all get comics these days seem to be mostly about people bothering her online. I get the desire to vent that frustration but it’s been a while since I’ve seen anything else.

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    It’s really crazy how internet regressed in this regard. “Don’t feed the troll” is been the moto of the web but not it’s almost inverse. People try to justify this as justice seeking but its clearly doesn’t work.

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      An increasing number of things are justified as justice seeking. I think it’s because people are increasingly desperate to feel powerful against the real injustices of the world. In that light it’s understandable, but seeking that feeling by trying to win online arguments with randos seems seriously pathetic.

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      It’s because of engagement algorithms, partially. Unlike ‘dumb’ forums/boards, the bulk of the modern internet heavily rewards trolling (and engaging with trolls) in every form.

      That, and very little community moderation.

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        God I love the profit driven nature of the modern Internet that relies on engagement-by-any-means-necessary. I love it sssooooo mmuuuucchhh

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    Really its the same as meatspace. You don’t hang with folks you don’t like or take phone calls from them. My dream is a block thats symetrical. Blocking is in some ways creepy because its only one way.

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        no I mean since its one way they can still see your stuff. I would sorta like it to be both ways. I felt this way ever since blocking cleaned up mmo chat nicely. I don’t want that person to see my stuff really.

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    i block rude and hateful people, it’s gotten bad on Lemmy recently but you can disagree with someone’s point while agreeing with their overall belief system, in the most normal way and you get back name calling, hateful comments, lots of anger by people just waiting to throw shit at someone for anything. Used to be you could have a group of people who agree on a subject but not the execution, and you could have a discussion, now if your view doesn’t conform 100% you get treated like you’re garbage.

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      Yes there’s an increasingly popular zero-tolerance binary attitude that says people are either 100% right or a million percent wrong. Either you subscribe to every detail of someone’s worldview or you’re obviously a shill for the hateful opposite of everything they stand for and cherish. It’s the People’s Front of Judea vs the (fucking) Judean People’s Front.

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        The American left kinda became like that Monty Python bit this past election, the word ally meant nothing, if you didn’t subscribe to a leftists view of what a particular leftist is, well fuck you, you may as well be MAGA!

        Even being left of other people got you wrecked. Pre Luigi, even suggesting what he did should happen would get you downvoted, and banned on Reddit

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    Honestly I’ve come around on pizzacake. I now think it’s actually an impressive artistic feat to make a successful webcomic where your secondary main character is consistently a non-existent strawman.

    It’s like social commentary on social commentary, wrapped in countless layers of irony and meta, right?

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      Every time I see this comic I think “you totally had a confrontation you fumbled, then came up with a response a week later and made a comic to ‘own’ someone”.

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      I also just generally like the Mary Sue nature of drawing yourself into your own comics and making yourself look good under all circumstances. It really communicates a lack of narcissism and arrogance.

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      your secondary main character is consistently a non-existent strawman

      Y’all gonna pretend the person in the comic isn’t real? I’ve seen comments of that exact nature discussing people who block others before bruh, find a legitimate comic to post this on next time

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        That’s fair criticism. In the comic at hand, you’re right, they’re not a non-existent strawman, as this strawman does exist. The apt critique for this specific comic is more about how blaringly obvious the conclusion that is being presented as revelatory is, so I shouldn’t have used the word “non-existent” in this specific critique. Very fair, cheers.

        edit: typo

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        You will notice that it was not pizzacake that posted this.

        Also I think we need a reset if we’re at the point where critiquing and criticizing media is suddenly “being butthurt.”

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            Pot/Kettle much? You haven’t even engaged with my criticism, since I never once have called pizzacake’s comics either “crazy” or “irrelevant” or any synonym thereof; if anything they’re too pedestrian and “low-hanging fruit,” the exact opposite of those critiques.

            And you see, this right here is why some of us don’t want pizzacake’s bullshit here; it is seemingly impossible for people to engage with criticism of them honestly, for some unknown reason.

            I have never once sought out a pizzacake comic to shit on. I have never once criticized pizzacake for anything outside the content of the art she has personally entered into the public square or her conduct in relation to said art. All I have ever done is engage with the art brought into the public square for consideration. This is c/comicstrips, not c/comicstripsycophantry, ostensibly a community for the discussion and consideration of this media form, not just a place for empty yes-manning.

            So as for you, feel free to take your own advice and just block me if you find my content distasteful, but as for your assertion, you can kindly fuck right off with that.

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                You aren’t even using that term right; I’m not asking for you to engage me in shit, nor am I feigning civility as I’ve been pretty clearly aggressive in my stance and told you to fuck off. Again, enormous pot/kettle projection. But hey, I’ll save us both the trouble and do the blocking for you. 👍

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    So I’m fully expecting a big reaction given how much of a reaction this comic always provokes, I’m not a huge fan of pizzacake’s art style or the whole negativity around it but I also haven’t found a way to just filter it out without blocking the whole instance. I’m not attacking anyone though, you keep on enjoying this if you like, I’m just putting my thoughts out and I might just be missing an option.

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      Tell me about it. I don’t need this bland-millenial-shouting-about-their-extremely-standard-lives fodder.

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      Yup I’m in agreement. Yes this is the comic strip sub, but this literally offers nothing of entertainment or comedy value at all. Plus why tf is this marked NSFW??? In reference to your question maybe block the User?

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        As the OP mentioned, this is the 1st time they posted this artist. If there was a single dedicated account posting PC comics, that would work, but not in this context.

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    Nobody is changing their mind from modern debates online. We are in a culture of anti-intellectualism. So there really is no point. I only block if someone is annoying or there is no point in engagement.

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      I don’t think that’s 100% true though. I’ve changed my mind several times but these talks needs both parties to argue in good faith not just throwing stones at each other.

      The main issue with main areas where this happens is because the communication tools are incredibly limited on purpose. Its impossible to have a conversation on Instagram, twitter or tiktok or even Facebook comments. And that’s done on purpose - isn’t that crazy?

      on the other hand, I generally really like discussions on hacker news because everyone at least pretends to approach in good faith and the discussion culture is quite professional. There are several small communities on the web that function this way and it really works!

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      the basic and long forgotten sloga. Of “don’t feed the trolls”

      I accept opinions other than my own, but if there is no sincere commitment from the other, why bother. Don’t feed the trolls.

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        We really should have never moved from that mindset. Now it is people rage baiting with actual trauma for money or the love of the game. 🥲

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      That’s not true.

      …On the other hand, I largely feel it’s not worth any effort unless its a passion/niche, where one has an outsized effect.

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    What is incredibly toxic is insulting someone and then blocking them, so they can’t defend themselves.