• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    I don’t understand watching any video game streams. It just makes me want to play video games myself, why would I spoil video games by watching someone else play it?

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      I’ve just recently gotten into this. Gotta find someone with good commentary skills, and doesn’t have an annoying voice.

      Also, speedrunners aren’t who I thought they’d be, was expecting a bunch of nerds cracked out on adderall. I don’t seek out the genre, but the ones I’ve stumbled across accidentally are older, with a technical background and do well-spoken commentary. Makes it much more interesting when they can articulate what they’re doing as they’re doing it.

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        This, for real. I love people who like think their way their way through, or add thoughtful commentary. They’re the interesting people who don’t even need prodding with remarks from chat; thoughtful, chatty people make good background TV for me.

        I immediately close streams where they play their own music or refuse to fix their audio issues.

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      I don’t understand watching any video game streams. It just makes me want to play video games myself, why would I spoil video games by watching someone else play it?

      I don’t understand watching any football streams. It just makes me want to play football myself, why would I spoil the fun of playing by watching someone else play it?

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        I don’t watch sports either. That said, that’s not a bad point, I suppose if I got into it I theoretically could watch and enjoy competitive games. Not the same as streamers playing singleplayer games though.

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      Here in Brazil, a lot of kids watch streamers because their families can’t afford any gaming devices :(

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      There are some games I can’t “git gud” at but I enjoy seeing the gameplay, so I watch edited playthroughs.

      I don’t watch streams much, for a multitude of reasons.

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      I have limited time, watching certain gaming channels lets me know about games I might be interested in.

      Then I can wishlist them, purchase them when they’re on sale, and never find the time to play them.

      I also have limited skills. Watching certain gaming channels lets me experience games I wouldn’t be able to progress in if I played them myself.

      Also, some are entertaining because of the way the person plays. Watching Jon forget about his damn blunderbuss cavalry until they are again slaughtered to the last man amuses me.

      I don’t play for an audience, so I can constantly pause and micromanage the game, and therefore don’t tend to make these amusing mistakes. I’m also not as good as most professionals. Therefore watching certain professionals play certain games can be more entertaining than playing them myself.

      Finally, there’s also the reaction factor, same as with film or TV or music reactions. Watching someone experience that surprise or shock for the first time triggers the mirror neuron, and is the closest I can get to experiencing it myself for the first time again.

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      That kinda depends on the type of game and type of gameplay. Speedruns are very obviusly something you can watch and not spoil yourself. There are also games that have hard learning curve and watching someone skilled is fun and a way to learn the game ( europa universalis for example ) . Some pepole want to watch someone role playing beacuse they know they will never be able to do that in a milion years ( i for example beat mass effect 3 times always taking the same decisions beacuse i just couldnt force myself to do somdthing diffrent ) so you might wanna watch someone who will do actual evil playtrough.

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    I found out that some female streaming voices give me some asmr. And overall can be more pleasant to hear. And less prone to have “youtube accent”. I take that as a win.

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      I don’t watch Twitch but the youngin’s in my family do.

      Female streamers don’t have that fake obnoxious rage yell/scream the guys do.

      Last streamer I watched by choice was Skyrim Grandma BTW.

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        Female streamers don’t have that fake obnoxious rage yell/scream the guys do.

        Eh, guys with the fake rage scream are about as common as the ladies who see Twitch as essentially a starter camsite/way to advertise their OF and are trading on boobs more than anything else. There absolutely are streamers on Twitch that are exactly what OP suggests, but they’re far from a majority and probably not the one used in the picture.

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        The only “streaming” I can watch are Game Grumps, but I get that’s not live, and it’s by and for a completely different demographic.

        I’ve tried, but I find a lot of Twitch play-throughs to be low-stimulation, low-information, and low-entertainment. I think they’re better suited to a dual-screen kind of situation, but then I’d rather be doing far more engaging things like playing games myself.

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            I miss it too. If I had to guess, Arin sees a day with wall-to-wall recording sessions and meetings, and misses those chaotic early days.

            I look at it this way: it’s a lot less home-grown now that it’s grown up. In exchange, they employ people, make Starbomb tours actually possible, and fund wildly off-the-wall games. Along the way, Dan was propelled into modest stardom, a lot of other folks from their camp got a boost for their endeavors, and they got to make some memorable moments with a few celebs. They’re not at “Liquid Game Grumps” levels yet, but it’s amazing to watch unfold. Maybe that’s worth it.

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              Completely agree. Just missing the good old days of being able to make whatever joke/comment they found funny, advertisers be damned

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    I understand greentexts are misogynistic by nature, but wtf is wrong with this entire fucking website that this shit is what pops up first. The entire “joke” hinges on the idea that that woman’s entire worth is tied into being pretty. This is not even casual sexism, that’s ranked competitive sexism.

    Also going by the comments some advanced morons here seem to unironically think that is actually how it works. Per twitch’s own leaked financials pokimane did not make more money than her male counterparts (who no-one ever accused of abusing their pretty privilege). But she’s a woman so of course her merit has to be scrutinized and her success has to be attributed to men. I suppose the idea that she has a large female audience has never even crossed the minds of the quadruple-chinned gremlins who upvote this garbage.

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      You realize that’s how the world works?

      Men or women, people are primarily judged for their physical attraction.

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      The entire “joke” hinges on the idea that that woman’s entire worth is tied into being pretty.

      Uhh no, the joke is that a lot of men see women as objects and will watch her streams solely on the fact that she is a woman that they desire to bang. But yea, no matter what lens you look at it, it’s patriarchy all the way down. I think watching and developing parasocial relationships with streamers, male or female, is pretty fuckin weird anyway.

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        I think watching and developing parasocial relationships with streamers, male or female, is pretty fuckin weird anyway.

        It is weird in an understanble way. Homo sapiens is a pack animal. For most of our 300k years of history, we survived by forming tribes and being connected to each other. This is why rejection sucks at any context, be it romanic or employment or friendship.

        Today, we are more alone and isolated than any time in history. It’s understandable some lonely people are desperate enough to hang onto some simulacrum of connection.

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        That’s a very charitable interpretation. Anon is a literal incel, he made a sexist joke, and I really don’t think he (or you) has ever watched one of pokimane’s streams because they’re aggressively non-sexual. There are plenty of actual sex workers on twitch if that’s your thing.

        Has pokimane had her share of weirdos over the years? Sure, but it’s really not that many people in absolute numbers and spreading naked incel propaganda is really fucking icky to me. Incel jokes aren’t okay even if it’s “humor”. It normalizes this extreme misogyny, even if you say “it’s okay we’re laughing at anon”.

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      It is also wild how some people here think everything you do in life is for the soul purpose of “procreation.” Like there is nothing more to life than the shallowness of sex for some people.

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      I think you’re missing some cultural context where 80% of twitch streams by women are just softcore porn. It became much more diverse and acceptable now but soft sex workers were huge on Twitch without even doing much of actual sex work.

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        I have been on twitch before sex workers even got a foot in the door. If you think that’s what “80%” of twitch is about then you either don’t watch or are telling on yourself.

        Anyway whatever you think of sex work is literally irrelevant to the conversation. The woman pictured is not a sex worker and implying that she is for the sake of an incel joke because “she’s pretty, that’s close enough to sex work for me” is misogyny and you need to take a long hard look at yourself.

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        I mean yeah but pokimane isn’t one. Also I’d really hesitate to go anywhere near as high as 80%

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    Lot of para social interaction in those twitch chats. You can see how easy it would be to go from “I’m watching this because I fancy the streamer” to something unhealthy.

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    Wait, are you implying that I’m sexually attracted to Josh from Let’s game it out!?

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      As someone that works in software, what he does to turn running code inside out, is kinda sexy. The guy is like a bloodhound for bugs and poorly-built software.

      Game developers: Yeah, buy our game and play it however you want. It’s all for fun!

      Josh: ::proceeds to out-QA the publisher’s QA department, breaking the game in the most egregious ways imaginable::

      Game developers: No, not like that!

      Speedrunners:: ::furious note-taking sounds::

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    I’ve no difficulty understanding lads being thirsty and attracted by a lovely lady who appears to be into gaming and hey, you can even interact and try to get her attention!

    Now, explain to me lads getting super invested in some lads running around a field chasing a ball. Like, literally having their lives revolve around it, their identity entirely centered on it. Now that’s a complete mystery to me.

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      The male ball chase cult is not even into women’s sports. I always found contradictory that the crowd that qualifies itself as the manliest and straightest, enjoys looking at sweaty males that grop each other celebrating scoring. The whole thing reeks of suppressed sexuality.

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      As someone who was born into the ball chasing cult, there are three things:

      1. The social aspect. It’s the one thing that brings my family together, each week, to watch the game. For away games, you have a cookout with some family friends, buy some drinks and then you watch the game. If it’s in the evening, then you go out afterwards. For home games, you gather the same group, but now you’re gonna meet more people in the arena, people you know because they’re also in the cult. You have a drink, you have a laugh and you catch up with them. Our team is a second division side with some okay players and a great goalie, so the game is almost relegated (heh) to play second fiddle.

      Oh and don’t get me started on the choreos.

      1. Hometown pride: This team has been here since the 19th century and for me, going to the games or even having just a passing interest in the team is part of being from that town.

      You tag lamp posts in your town with their stickers and you do the same in the surrounding smaller cities. By looking at the stickers in any given town, you can see to which city their youth gravitates, which tickles my brain in ways I can’t explain.

      1. It’s fun to watch: Arguably the weakest reason, but God damn, sometimes even second division footy just looks so good! When you see someone pull off a sick trick or make a clean tackle or catch, you get that sweet dopamine kick, it’s insane.

      I’d never beat someone because of their allegiance. Those people can kick rocks.

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        Fair-play to you for a thoughtful answer. Much appreciated and it certainly matches my personal experience.
        As I said somewhere else : seeing my mates being all up in arms about ManU when they live in fecking Donegal was always funny to me, but I totally see the social aspect.
        So much banter at the pub! If there is a thing the Irish love, it’s a good banter.

        Shame about the assholes who use it as an excuse to get into fights. Fecking idiots the lot of them.

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          Thanks for the kind words, I really have to take every excuse to practice writing in English ^^

          Yeah, I definitely forgot about the banter and storylines.

          I think what contributes the most to the sports ball hype is that a lot of people play sports ball themselves. And just like gamers watching streams of people playing the games they want to play or are playing, ball cultists wanna see guys do the shit they do on some backwater pitch. You know, for the “damn, I know that’s difficult” or the “I could do it better” - factor.

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            Man, the “damn, I know that’s difficult” is strong in every sport. I can appreciate a sport so much more if I did it myself, even just a few months. Fencing? No idea, people waving some sticks around. Soccer football? Sick volley shot, man, I saw a mate to the same thing back in 2006…

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              Yeah, I think it’s also “I saw like 10 of my mates shit the bed trying to do that”.

              Thanks for avoiding the s-word btw ^^

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        Hometown pride

        Do you also refer to your city’s sport team using “we”, “us”, and “our”? I’ve always found that weird, because while I’m a fan, I don’t consider myself being a part of what the team accomplishes. I’m just a spectator. I just refer to them as the team name.

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          I have pretty deep roots within the city, and I could not imagine not rooting for my team (within limits, I wouldn’t tolerate bigotry, but as of now, they behaved pretty good on that front), so yeah, I use “wir” and “uns” :)

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        I appreciate the summary and I think i get why people like sports ball… but I really enjoy having a sports ball free space to talk about how absurd it is the way our society obsesses over it. on the internet, you’re the weirdo, not me!

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      I actually understood sports fandom for the first time because of watching streamers play video games. I was like ooooohhh, this is a very challenging skill, and I’m watching someone do it very very well, and I’m fucking hyped and I want to see more.

      I never in my life had that for basketball or anything. But it made sense when I saw it for video games.

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        Hey, no hate on people loving sports!

        My point was it’s super clear why a teenager wants to thirst on a pretty woman playing vidya.

        Now, my irish mates all having their club and being all very serious about it, when they’ll curse the English in the same sentence has always been hilarious to me.
        And I’m talking people from fecking Donegal, who lived through the Troubles and shit. Never understood that one.

        • It’s cool.

          I’ve never really understood it either to be honest. I’ve gravitated to solo sports and more admiration at the ability than the winning per se.

          I’m from Manchester, UK, so been around a lot of Irish people. Had a lovely time in Port-Stewert once. (Port-Stewart?) At the same time I’ve put countless hours into Minecraft, Factorio, Running, or climbing and people wonder why.

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        That is a magnificently executed thought-terminating cliché, but if I may offer a rebuttal: nuh-uh!

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      Holy fuck I wish lemmy gold was a thing i could give you. Sport fans always seemed like cultists to me.

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    Isn’t that Pokimane? She’s ranked in League. Cute women can do great things. If you sexualize it maybe you’re a creep. Go watch her play.

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        Ranked, meaning above a certain rank making you one of the top tier players.

        You can be ranked as a bronze sure. But no one goes around saying I’m ranked bronze. Means you’re trash.

        According to Google she’s Emerald+ (I have no idea what this means as I never played LoL. She apparently reached immortal status which makes her the top 0.5% of players.

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          Emerald+ is somewhere around the 93rd percentile. So she’s definitely good, (better than over 90% of players), but not as good as the true Diamond/master/grandmaster players.

          A lot of those grandmaster-level players don’t even have their face on stream; They’ll just silently stream with a camera on their keyboard, because the people watching them want to see their inputs just as much as they want to see the the match. When it comes to streaming, there’s a golden triangle of “Looks”, “Charisma” and “Skill”. In order to be a good streamer, you need at least two. But those grandmaster players are so insanely skilled that they’re able to ignore the other two completely.

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            I feel like the mechanics of the isekai world have just been narrated and I’m about to binge 4hrs of B-tier slop.

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        Not really, you can play league entirely unranked though the matchmaking will still try to put you in similar skill matches. So you will get an ELO/MMR but that’s not a rank anyone sees.

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    I have no sexual attraction to the many gamers I watch stream. I love John Wolfe and his gaming is just so entertaining. I will listen in the background and watch off and on. I get to experience games I have no time or energy to play still engage in the storylines and also have some background noise. It’s a win win win. It’s not always about bewbs.

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    Shrieking into the void is my favourite pastime, I don’t even watch the stream, I pause it and concentrate on the chat. I’ve never once been tagged or responded to after thousands of messages, and have macro keybinds for every emote available so I can post :Kappa: and :Omegalul: as fast as possible.

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    Poki definitely has fans like that, but she has plenty of other fans too. You dont get to be that popular if all you have is looks

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    They very much know what they’re doing. In an era where legit anyone can do this stuff now, they gotta stand out or just have vagina. Not all streamers are baiting hormones, but incidentally I don’t get being a streamer fan such that you’re even paying money to someone to play a video game. Makes about as much sense to pay someone playing sports millions of dollars but hey, that’s just me. Peace

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    I used to somewhat regularly watch streams before going to sleep. I’d just have the computer set to shutdown at a given time and just be in bed, watching, listening. Even crafted me own script, to activate the shutdown popup and slowly lower the volume. Better than the computer suddenly shutting down, and allowed me to easily cancel shutdown if I wanted. Once the computer turned off, put my stuff to the side and go to sleep (not sure how often I’d end up on my phone instead)

    That being said, I don’t have a Twitch account, never interacted. Just sometimes watched, when certain people were on, at the end of the day. Not like I was the whole day in chat or something. And lately I’ve lost the habit. Back then, I lived alone, and with a job,.had a regular routine. Plus, the computer was right ahead of my bed. Now? No more. I usually end up on my phone instead (and when that happens, it usually is not limit in time… it don’t shutdown.)

    Edit: not interested in gaming, though. I’m more of a “Just Chatting”