• azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    I understand greentexts are misogynistic by nature, but wtf is wrong with this entire fucking website that this shit is what pops up first. The entire “joke” hinges on the idea that that woman’s entire worth is tied into being pretty. This is not even casual sexism, that’s ranked competitive sexism.

    Also going by the comments some advanced morons here seem to unironically think that is actually how it works. Per twitch’s own leaked financials pokimane did not make more money than her male counterparts (who no-one ever accused of abusing their pretty privilege). But she’s a woman so of course her merit has to be scrutinized and her success has to be attributed to men. I suppose the idea that she has a large female audience has never even crossed the minds of the quadruple-chinned gremlins who upvote this garbage.

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      I think you’re missing some cultural context where 80% of twitch streams by women are just softcore porn. It became much more diverse and acceptable now but soft sex workers were huge on Twitch without even doing much of actual sex work.

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        2 hours ago

        I mean yeah but pokimane isn’t one. Also I’d really hesitate to go anywhere near as high as 80%

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    4 hours ago

    Lot of para social interaction in those twitch chats. You can see how easy it would he to go from “I’m watching this because I fancy the streamer” to something unhealthy.

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    Humanity on the balance seems to like to act shocked and even disgusted when anything like this and countless other similar scenarios occur. Often they ask why but they know why. Procreation. So much of our behaviour has undertones of procreation whether we acknowledge this or not. I find those who acknowledge deal with the less ethical parts of procreation much better than those constantly in denial.

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    11 hours ago

    Wait, are you implying that I’m sexually attracted to Josh from Let’s game it out!?

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    13 hours ago

    Isn’t that Pokimane? She’s ranked in League. Cute women can do great things. If you sexualize it maybe you’re a creep. Go watch her play.

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        Ranked, meaning above a certain rank making you one of the top tier players.

        You can be ranked as a bronze sure. But no one goes around saying I’m ranked bronze. Means you’re trash.

        According to Google she’s Emerald+ (I have no idea what this means as I never played LoL. She apparently reached immortal status which makes her the top 0.5% of players.

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          Emerald+ is somewhere around the 93rd percentile. So she’s definitely good, (better than over 90% of players), but not as good as the true Diamond/master/grandmaster players.

          A lot of those grandmaster-level players don’t even have their face on stream; They’ll just silently stream with a camera on their keyboard, because the people watching them want to see their inputs just as much as they want to see the the match. When it comes to streaming, there’s a golden triangle of “Looks”, “Charisma” and “Skill”. In order to be a good streamer, you need at least two. But those grandmaster players are so insanely skilled that they’re able to ignore the other two completely.

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    I have no sexual attraction to the many gamers I watch stream. I love John Wolfe and his gaming is just so entertaining. I will listen in the background and watch off and on. I get to experience games I have no time or energy to play still engage in the storylines and also have some background noise. It’s a win win win. It’s not always about bewbs.

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    19 hours ago

    I’ve no difficulty understanding lads being thirsty and attracted by a lovely lady who appears to be into gaming and hey, you can even interact and try to get her attention!

    Now, explain to me lads getting super invested in some lads running around a field chasing a ball. Like, literally having their lives revolve around it, their identity entirely centered on it. Now that’s a complete mystery to me.

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      As someone who was born into the ball chasing cult, there are three things:

      1. The social aspect. It’s the one thing that brings my family together, each week, to watch the game. For away games, you have a cookout with some family friends, buy some drinks and then you watch the game. If it’s in the evening, then you go out afterwards. For home games, you gather the same group, but now you’re gonna meet more people in the arena, people you know because they’re also in the cult. You have a drink, you have a laugh and you catch up with them. Our team is a second division side with some okay players and a great goalie, so the game is almost relegated (heh) to play second fiddle.

      Oh and don’t get me started on the choreos.

      1. Hometown pride: This team has been here since the 19th century and for me, going to the games or even having just a passing interest in the team is part of being from that town.

      You tag lamp posts in your town with their stickers and you do the same in the surrounding smaller cities. By looking at the stickers in any given town, you can see to which city their youth gravitates, which tickles my brain in ways I can’t explain.

      1. It’s fun to watch: Arguably the weakest reason, but God damn, sometimes even second division footy just looks so good! When you see someone pull off a sick trick or make a clean tackle or catch, you get that sweet dopamine kick, it’s insane.

      I’d never beat someone because of their allegiance. Those people can kick rocks.

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        14 hours ago

        Fair-play to you for a thoughtful answer. Much appreciated and it certainly matches my personal experience.
        As I said somewhere else : seeing my mates being all up in arms about ManU when they live in fecking Donegal was always funny to me, but I totally see the social aspect.
        So much banter at the pub! If there is a thing the Irish love, it’s a good banter.

        Shame about the assholes who use it as an excuse to get into fights. Fecking idiots the lot of them.

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          Thanks for the kind words, I really have to take every excuse to practice writing in English ^^

          Yeah, I definitely forgot about the banter and storylines.

          I think what contributes the most to the sports ball hype is that a lot of people play sports ball themselves. And just like gamers watching streams of people playing the games they want to play or are playing, ball cultists wanna see guys do the shit they do on some backwater pitch. You know, for the “damn, I know that’s difficult” or the “I could do it better” - factor.

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            Man, the “damn, I know that’s difficult” is strong in every sport. I can appreciate a sport so much more if I did it myself, even just a few months. Fencing? No idea, people waving some sticks around. Soccer football? Sick volley shot, man, I saw a mate to the same thing back in 2006…

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              Yeah, I think it’s also “I saw like 10 of my mates shit the bed trying to do that”.

              Thanks for avoiding the s-word btw ^^

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        Hometown pride

        Do you also refer to your city’s sport team using “we”, “us”, and “our”? I’ve always found that weird, because while I’m a fan, I don’t consider myself being a part of what the team accomplishes. I’m just a spectator. I just refer to them as the team name.

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          I have pretty deep roots within the city, and I could not imagine not rooting for my team (within limits, I wouldn’t tolerate bigotry, but as of now, they behaved pretty good on that front), so yeah, I use “wir” and “uns” :)

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        I appreciate the summary and I think i get why people like sports ball… but I really enjoy having a sports ball free space to talk about how absurd it is the way our society obsesses over it. on the internet, you’re the weirdo, not me!

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      I actually understood sports fandom for the first time because of watching streamers play video games. I was like ooooohhh, this is a very challenging skill, and I’m watching someone do it very very well, and I’m fucking hyped and I want to see more.

      I never in my life had that for basketball or anything. But it made sense when I saw it for video games.

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        Hey, no hate on people loving sports!

        My point was it’s super clear why a teenager wants to thirst on a pretty woman playing vidya.

        Now, my irish mates all having their club and being all very serious about it, when they’ll curse the English in the same sentence has always been hilarious to me.
        And I’m talking people from fecking Donegal, who lived through the Troubles and shit. Never understood that one.

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          It’s cool.

          I’ve never really understood it either to be honest. I’ve gravitated to solo sports and more admiration at the ability than the winning per se.

          I’m from Manchester, UK, so been around a lot of Irish people. Had a lovely time in Port-Stewert once. (Port-Stewart?) At the same time I’ve put countless hours into Minecraft, Factorio, Running, or climbing and people wonder why.

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        That is a magnificently executed thought-terminating cliché, but if I may offer a rebuttal: nuh-uh!

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      17 hours ago

      Holy fuck I wish lemmy gold was a thing i could give you. Sport fans always seemed like cultists to me.

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    Shrieking into the void is my favourite pastime, I don’t even watch the stream, I pause it and concentrate on the chat. I’ve never once been tagged or responded to after thousands of messages, and have macro keybinds for every emote available so I can post :Kappa: and :Omegalul: as fast as possible.

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    Poki definitely has fans like that, but she has plenty of other fans too. You dont get to be that popular if all you have is looks

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    I used to somewhat regularly watch streams before going to sleep. I’d just have the computer set to shutdown at a given time and just be in bed, watching, listening. Even crafted me own script, to activate the shutdown popup and slowly lower the volume. Better than the computer suddenly shutting down, and allowed me to easily cancel shutdown if I wanted. Once the computer turned off, put my stuff to the side and go to sleep (not sure how often I’d end up on my phone instead)

    That being said, I don’t have a Twitch account, never interacted. Just sometimes watched, when certain people were on, at the end of the day. Not like I was the whole day in chat or something. And lately I’ve lost the habit. Back then, I lived alone, and with a job,.had a regular routine. Plus, the computer was right ahead of my bed. Now? No more. I usually end up on my phone instead (and when that happens, it usually is not limit in time… it don’t shutdown.)

    Edit: not interested in gaming, though. I’m more of a “Just Chatting”

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    They very much know what they’re doing. In an era where legit anyone can do this stuff now, they gotta stand out or just have vagina. Not all streamers are baiting hormones, but incidentally I don’t get being a streamer fan such that you’re even paying money to someone to play a video game. Makes about as much sense to pay someone playing sports millions of dollars but hey, that’s just me. Peace