He’s always wore sketchers. Like since he was 4. Recently, he got really emotionally taking about shoes he wanted for middle school. He said if he doesn’t get Nikes he’s going to get teased. Great fucking marketing work Nike.

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    Man sketchers are awesome. I have a pair that I’ve re-bought consistently for years because they were the perfect fit, comfy, and were nondescript. Now they’ve discontinued them so I have to see if I can order them online.

    I remember when I was kid though. We always had hands-down, goodwill, and k-mart clothes. But one of my Pop’s jobs was a janitor at the “rich” school district and he’d watch the lost and found box and wait for the shit he brought in to expire.

    Once it was in the bin for more than a month it got “donated”. Half of that stuff went to the kids of the people that worked there. My brothers and I being some of them. So Pops scored me a pair of Air Nike when Jordan was at the height of his career.

    Wouldn’t you know it? One dude on the play ground had to ask why I was wearing a Walmart T-shirt while wearing Nike shoes. Seriously, kids are fucking brutal.

    I learned long before that that I was “poor” so I learned how to play it off and flipped the script. “Are you that superficial that you give a shit? It never even occurred to me to look at what you’re wearing but now that I am, all you are is a wigger” (slur for a wannabe in my era/location). He left me alone the rest of our school career.

    I’m in my forties now but somewhere in my thirties he hit me up on Facebook and apologized for being a little shit. Turns out he had a bit of a crush on me and that’s how he showed it amongst other reasons. He was newly divorced when he reconnected with me so I had to turn him down (that the only reason you’re apologizing, dude?) but he was much nicer about everything this time.

    Kids can be nasty but many of them grow up. Anytime you can stand up to adults in front of your kids it’s teaching them how to stand up to their own peers. Show them every example you can of how to handle what they’re dealing with. How you stand up to your family, friends, and peers, is how your kids learn how to do the same thing.

    You can’t buy yourself out of bullying. Even rich kids get bullied. Confidence in yourself and empathy for others are a far better lesson to teach the next generation.

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    Congrats, there’s a good chance you just bought into being part of the problem. Your son is probably now a card-carrying member of the group that teases other kids for being less than.

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    One of my good runner friends (3000+ miles a year and owns 100+ pairs of shoes) is the biggest sketchers fans I know of. Apparently their good running shoes aren’t even cheap anymore, like $110+.

    I imagine these kids aren’t wearing super shoes anyway, or else they would know the puma’s are faster

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    Yeah, I agree! Sadly the days of fighting back are over. I have faith he can scrap is needed

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    My school everyone wore the same uniform. The only choice we could make was shoes or sandals 99.9% chose shoes. Sandal wearers got so much shit for it. It was a death sentence.

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    Kids are very materialistic.

    When I was in middle school, I was probably the worst for me with the bullying. I came from a family that didn’t have a whole lot of money. Like even the cheap stuff we had to cut corners with. And well I was fully aware, that there was no real difference between what I had and what they had, it didn’t stop the consistent bullying. And the teachers never cared. The other students didn’t care in fact some of them would chime in too. And when that’s your life for several hours a day 5 days a week… You eventually just get to a breaking point.

    I’ll never forget the day I basically had a complete emotional breakdown because we were doing back to school shopping at Target, and I saw one of those trapper keepers. With a weird designs on the outside. They were all the rage. And it was like eight bucks I think. My mom did end up buying it for me, but only because her soon-to-be 5th grader, collapsed in the isle crying. I don’t remember what I told her, but all I could think about was having that was going to make life just a little bit easier for me.

    Kids can be real assholes to other kids.

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    Teach your kid to kick some teeth out with his Skechers. I have a feeling that your kid is going to get bullied no matter what he wears.

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      I was unironically told that I should “keep a lower profile” if I want to avoid being bullied. I spoke to nobody and hugged the walls walking from class to class. I don’t know how much lower of a profile I could keep.

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        Same. The principal and vice principals at the last high school I attended were also the football coaches. Going to them about how the jocks were kicking the shit out of me for being too nerdy and queer for their tastes got me that same “just keep a lower profile” bullshit from the highest authority figures in that dump.

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        If they all tried to dogpile you at the same time I’m fairly certain the laws of thermodynamics would result in a dead you, as well as several dozen well-done kids lol.

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        LPT If you back down a narrow corridor, make them come down single file, you can take them one by one.

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      An old steel rod car antenna is the ultimate. All you have to do is slice the air a few times and the sound alone will keep everyone away

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      Nah, you pick your battles. If the kid wants Nikes because that’s what everyone else has, then get him Nikes. I heard 10 years ago that Sketchers are for toddlers and old people… and from what I’ve seen that perception hasn’t changed.

      Like it or not, we are social animals and fitting in is important, especially for children. When my daughter was a toddler we made it a point to NOT expose her to Paw Patrol because it is just blatant targeted marketing to children. It was a point of pride for us to be able to walk past Paw Patrol branded apple sauce and not have her begging for it. And then we sent her to preschool and after the first week she came home sad that all the other kids were playing Paw Patrol but she didn’t know any of the characters, so she couldn’t play. That was a real shitty day for me as a parent because that was my failing. We started letting her watch Paw Patrol (as well as other non-PBS kids shows) because pop culture is important. Same with fashion… not every kid needs to wear Nike, but they should be aware of what the trends are and have a say in what they get.

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        IDC about your BS explnation.
        I despise people like you.
        You are a weak consumer slave keeping these horrible practices alive by being weak and giving in.
        I have no sympathy for your slave mentality.
        You should be ashamed.
        You are all that is wrong with the world.

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      Why would they be a shit parent for doing something so simple? The shoes aren’t that much more expensive unless they are talking like some limited edition nonsense. They don’t need to go that far, but just getting some brand name thing to avoid bullying is an easy thing.

      Sounds like you’d be a shit parent if you had kids. “I can’t be arsed to help stop your getting bullied because it costs me a few dollars more.”

      Certainly there are other lessons to be had here about standing up for oneself and not letting peer pressure dictate your life, but spending a few dollars for brand name sneakers is not something to call people shit parents over.

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            dumb ass americunts are pathetic.
            This slave attitude is what got you into a fascist state. And you fully deserve it.
            Subservient, weak pacified pussies, bending over at any time, punching down to keep yourself in a little less shitty position.
            Despicable, I’m glad your shithole is going down the shitter, the world will watch it it with joy.
            You won’t be missed.

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      Bullying like that can be extremely traumatic for kids. Yeah it’s a shit situation, but I understand why they wouldn’t want to deal with it. kids are generally shitty people in middle school and use any excuse to bully each other. You basically have 3 choices 1) give in and get the thing, 2) let them get bullied for the rest of middle school, 3) harden them to the point where the other kids are fucking terrified of them.

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        As if parents and schools can’t intervene.
        Shouldn’t those 2 groups specificallybe trying to educate children to do better?

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          It doesn’t really matter if the schools do. And the bully’s parents are where they get it from. Kids don’t care about branding unless they’re instructed to do so by their families. I was bullied by a guy for years at school. Several adults tried to intervene, but it only stopped after I embedded a knife in the wall next to his head from across the room. Bullies like a reaction unless they think there’s a legitimate chance you’ll snap and murder them. Unfortunately that’s not advice you can pass to your children.

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            I believe there’s plenty that can be done.
            And it may get the kids to react.
            Maybe not with a knife but bullies aren’t generally very tough anyway when confronted.

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          I always find anti bullying measures kind of a waste of time. Adults will bully you way more, it just isn’t a swirly.

          it’s making you fill out an application on a job prospects website even though the info is on the resume.

          It’s every month when we pay rent.

          It’s every paycheck we receive that doesn’t include our surplus labor value.

          It’s a overdraft fee from your bank.

          It’s ComcastXfinity purchasing your local government and ensuring you have no alternatives for an ISP.

          It’s the “unprecedented call volume” you wait through that happens because the customer service phone line is purposely understaffed.

          It’s your health insurance denying your claim.

          It’s everywhere. Just because we hide it behind a curtain of the economic system doesn’t mean it changes the nature of these interactions.

          If you want your kid to be successful, they should be a bully. Bullies are successful as fuck. Every parent should be teaching their child to be the biggest asshole douchebag bully ever.

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        For not wanting kids to grow up as shallow marketing simps?

        Let me guess, you wear expensive shoes don’t ya

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          I grew up with a tenuous grasp on the middle class and generally don’t buy much premium shit, despite being able to afford a life of luxury. My most expensive shoes are a $100 pair I wear with a suit. The shoes I wear most days are $25. You’re just an asshole, is all.

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            Yes, not giving in to toxic bullying for having less money makes you an asshole, right.
            What if another parent doesn’t even have the choice to give in bcs they can’t afford it? too bad for the kid right?
            You’re the POS here.

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            I’m the asshole? Lmao you Litterally think bullying is all right and normal

            Fighting one bully at a time by wearing the shoes they want you to wear /s

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              You’re the asshole for passing judgement on people who are trying to protect their kids from circumstances that are unknown to you.

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    I don’t know if this is a bad idea, but recently all the Chinese manufacturers spoke out about how much the products they make actually cost, you can find the exact warehouse that makes them, and order directly from them, at a ridiculous mark down. Like a 10th of the price, or less. Might be worth some research. I see Adidas sambas for $10, including postage. They’re all there. They just don’t have the actual name label on them yet, because that’s all they do when they reach the distributor, though, so might be useless to you.

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        I was too lazy to actually go find the specific warehouses. I just downloaded taobao, it’s partially in English now. I’ve seen and saved a few tiktoks with descriptions of the locations and which places do which items / brands. I just genuinely don’t have time to deep dive and do proper research, though.

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          Nah, you usually have to direct message them via WhatsApp. You will have to pay like 15 or 20 shipping, so people usually buy a few pairs at a time.

          There are specific marketplaces for things, but they tend to only sell bulk. Aliexpress is all resellers.

          I am not even sure if the ones I posted sell exact knock offs or not though.

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    Instead of getting him 300$ shoes give him the choice of the cool shoes or the latest coolest video game or the shoes, or whatever hobby he enjoys…

    Kids tease other kids because they themselves feel insecure… that’s literally all it is… if you need Nike shoes to feel secure you’re probably not a cool person anyways

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      Kids tease whomever they perceive as weak.

      If he get the shows, it’s the wrong model. If he get the right model, it’s his har color. Etc.

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        The kids who tease have severe insecurities, they are dodging and deflecting and pointing at other kids so that no one looks at them

        They do not tease folks perceived as strong

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      The shoes are probably not $300…more like $100. And the kids goal is to not feel socially ostracized, not to spend money frivolously.

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        Having to spend money tp avoid being socially ostracized IS frivolously spending money.

        • Unworthy of serious attention; trivial.

        • Inappropriately silly.

        • Of little weight or importance; not worth notice; slight.

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          To each their own…I would count not being socially ostracized as highly important, appropriate, and of significant weight.

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      $300 shoes? I think the most expensive shoes I’ve ever bought were $70. I’m sure a lot of the issue with him getting picked on isn’t so much brand name but him feeling like he has no say in what he wears and feeling like he is dressed by his parents in styles he has no say in. Its been 25 years since I entered middle school like this kid, but back then I would have felt the same way if my parents were forcing me to wear something I didn’t like/want. It wasn’t about price either. Often times the shoes my parents wanted me to wear were the same or higher in price, but styles change over time and vary by region/groups. People have their own personalities and prefer to fit in if they can. If the kid doesn’t want to feel like a toddler and have more freedom in what they wear it isn’t a bad thing.