In the piece — titled “Can You Fool a Self Driving Car?” — Rober found that a Tesla car on Autopilot was fooled by a Wile E. Coyote-style wall painted to look like the road ahead of it, with the electric vehicle plowing right through it instead of stopping.

The footage was damning enough, with slow-motion clips showing the car not only crashing through the styrofoam wall but also a mannequin of a child. The Tesla was also fooled by simulated rain and fog.

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    Does anyone else get the heebies with Mark Rober? There’s something a little off about his smile and overall presence.

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    Man these cars don`t have a Radar ? Only eyes like most of the animals? Not even as a backup ? Not talking about Lasers, but Radar? Truck drivers, better not paint a scenery on the back of your truck.

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    I can’t wait for all this brand loyalty and fan people culture to end. Why is this even a thing? Like talking about box office results, companies financials and stocks…. If you’re not an investor of theirs, just stop. It sounds like you’re working for free for them.

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    I hope some of you actually skimmed the article and got to the “disengaging” part.

    As Electrek points out, Autopilot has a well-documented tendency to disengage right before a crash. Regulators have previously found that the advanced driver assistance software shuts off a fraction of a second before making impact.

    It’s a highly questionable approach that has raised concerns over Tesla trying to evade guilt by automatically turning off any possibly incriminating driver assistance features before a crash.

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    It was super annoying how scared he acted when he knew it was styrofoam and it wasn’t even going to leave a scratch on the car. I would have like it much better if the car crashed into and actual wall and burst into flames.

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    Of course it disengages self driving modes before an impact. Why would they want to be liable for absolutely anything?

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    And the president is driving one of these?

    Maybe we should be purchasing lots of paint and cement blockades…

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      When he was in the Tesla asking if he should go for a ride I was screaming “Yes! Yes Mr. President! Please! Elon, show him full self driving on the interstate! Show him full self driving mode!”

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      The president can’t drive by law unless on the grounds of the White House and maybe Camp David. At least while in office. They might be allowed to drive after leaving office…

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        This isn’t true at all. I can’t tell if you’re being serious or incredibly sarcastic, though.

        The reason presidents (and generally ex presidents, too) don’t drive themselves is because the kind of driving to escape an assassination attempt is a higher level of driving and training than what the vast majority of people ever have. There’s no law saying presidents are forbidden from driving.

        In any case, I would be perfectly happy if they let him drive a CT and it caught fire. I’d do a little jib, and I wouldn’t care who sees that.

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            you’re gonna have to drop a source for that.

            because, no, they’re not. the Secret Service provides a driver specially trained for the risks a president might face, and very strongly insists, but they’re not “prohibited” from driving simply because they’re presidents.

            to be clear, the secret service cannot prohibit the president from doing anything they really want to do. Even if it’s totally stupid for them to do that. (This includes, for example, Trump’s routine weekend round of golf at Turd-o-Lardo)

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              You’re technically correct, there is no law prohibiting a current or former president from driving, but there is a policy preventing it and it is enforced by the secret service (who follow them around for the rest of their life). Many former presidents have gone on the record that the lose of their driving privileges really sucks (Bush 43, Clinton, and Obama have all discussed it on camera during various interviews). It’s been a policy since Kennedy was assassinated, lots of other policy changes too, but one was the no driving bit.

              Random sources: https://www.smh.com.au/world/us-presidents-can-have-everything--except-the-car-keys-20140506-zr5we.html

              https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/28/presidents-arent-allowed-to-drive.html

              And one just about some times they drove anyway:

              https://www.motorbiscuit.com/3-u-s-presidents-got-around-no-driving-rule/

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              to be clear, the secret service cannot prohibit the president from doing anything they really want to do

              Was Trump lying when he said the SS wouldn’t take him back to the capital on Jan 6?

              I could definitely see him lying about that so he doesn’t look like he abandoned his supporters during the coup, but I could also see the driver being like “I can’t endanger you, mr president” and ignoring his requests.

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                Was Trump lying when he said the SS wouldn’t take him back to the capital on Jan 6?

                Definitely not. There is no way in hell the secret service would have taken the president to that shit show. Doesn’t mean that they would have physically arrested him if he insisted going on his own, however.

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          I never that proud of a french president than when I read this comment 😎

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        The real question is, in a truly self-driving car, (not a tesla) are you actually driving?

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    I saw the video and I have two points:

    1. Yes it plays like an infomercial for lidar. So take that portion with some skepticism. I can think of some issues exclusive to lidar like 2+ lidar cars blinding each other which needs to be solved, e.g. some kind of light pattern encoding to mask out unwanted signals.
    2. It absolutely 100% demonstrates the issue with camera-only technology in Tesla vehicles.

    Teslas used to have cameras + radar but they cheaped out and removed the radar. I think it would have passed all the tests if they still had the front facing radar but they don’t. The problem with cameras alone is obvious - they can’t see what they can’t see and probably don’t have an innate sense to slow down if there is rain, fog, ice or whatever else that might cause a human to.

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    To be fair, if you were to construct a wall and paint it exactly like the road, people will run into it as well. That being said, tesla shouldn’t rely on cameras

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    If you get any strong emotions on material shit when someone makes a video…you have 0 of my respect. Period.

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      Saw a guy smash a Stradivarius on video once. definitely had strong emotions on that one.

      Really torn up about not having your respect tho…

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        I think you could argue that that’s not just material stuff though. That’s historical and significant culturally.

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    well, if they want to use military cyber trucks to invade canada, at least we know how to stop them lol.