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      Some people will literally do anything to avoid using/purchasing a dishwasher. I don’t get it. Hand washing is unsanitary, time-consuming, and wastes water. Just fork over the $600 and get one already. It’ll change your life for the better.

      Edit: Why are you booing me? I’m right! Are you seriously going to call Alec from Technology Connections a liar? Here’s your proof right here: https://youtu.be/Ll6-eGDpimU#t=36m31s

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        Just fork over the $600

        I prefer paying my rent over kitchen appliances

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          If you’re paying rent, it is expected that a dishwasher is included in the cost of your rent. If it’s not, you need to find a place that provides basic appliances. It is the landlord’s responsibility to provide a dishwasher, not yours.

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        I have both. I’m not putting my plastic salad spinner or German chef knives or old plastic food storage containers or blender jar or my pots and pans and etc. in the dishwasher. Restaurants have human dishwashers for valid reasons.

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        Ok, and how are you fitting it in your kitchen when all cabinets are overflowing and you do not feel like removing your oven.

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          I put it in the space for the dishwasher. If you do not have such a space in your kitchen, there are standalone units, even countertop variants. You could remove a cabinet if you can afford to lose the space.

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            Many people rent. You can’t just remove a cabinet in that case. Can’t decide how big the kitchen is either. I’m sorry, but your comments come off as very privilaged and honestly ignorant.

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            The counter top ones take up a lot of space, and you cannot use your kitchen sink while it is running because it connects to your kitchen faucet. Which also means you need to have the correct kind of faucet for the attachment to fit. Also, dishwashers use a lot of power. There are hidden costs at play here, and with the price of power only going up, why wouldn’t I do dishes the cheap way? Not to mention haveing to buy dishwasher tablets and all the waste products created by the single use packaging.

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        It doesn’t have to waste more water. There are ways to do the dishes where you only use water to rinse off the already washed plates. That is in fact less water than with a dishwasher. Maybe you are thinking of washing the dished with the water constantly on.

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          This old wives’ tale objectively untrue and has already been debunked. It is impossible use less water than a dishwasher, no matter how you wash the dishes. Like I said, Technology Connections already tested this.

          There is nothing more frustrating than being told I’m wrong when I know for a fact that I’m right, and even have proof. Hive mind mentality drives me crazy sometimes.

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    And then you get to a point where you look at that and think “clever but I’m sure it’s fucked up in some way that isn’t immediately obvious.”

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        I have this drying rack, and… I LOVE it!

        But the knife holder is the biggest problem. All the bits are modular so you can set it up with the knife holder not having something right above it, but my favorite knife is too long to sit in the knife holder without stabbing the countertop. I solved the problem by getting one of those magnetic knife holders and mounting it to the side of the rack.

        Also, when people who come over to my place for dinner or hanging out, about half of them make a comment about how awesome the drying rack is.

        (I’m 47 and I got this rack about 5 years ago)

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      All this crap in my way and too much clutter. Yuck. Also, anything over a sink is likely to get splashed. This is creating more cleaning work, and for what?

      And who dries dishes like this? Are they not already clean and dry out of the dishwasher? Hand washing is very wasteful and time consuming.

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      The immediately obvious way is that you don’t need a fucking scaffolding around your sink for any of this. Put the knives on magnets like a normal person. Dry your dishes and put them away like an adult, you aren’t in college anymore, have some fucking dignity. Put the fruit literally anywhere else. That leaves the soap, which can just sit on the fucking counter. It’s not going to damage anything in an earthquake. It doesn’t need to be caged.

      Counters should be flat, clean and empty of single purpose appliances or extraneous errata. This is the recipe for positive mental health.

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      I would be bothered by having low clearance above the sink to do dishes, even if it was practically enough room.

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      A side rack with drainage into the sink is ideal for handwashing dishes, anything more or less complicated than that is going to be endless headaches. This thing looks unstable as fuck.

      Imagine pumping soap from the dispenser while the top rack has several plates and pots and pans (and fruit??) on it.

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        I have never needed a drying rack in my life. On the very rare occasion I can’t just dry something and put it away, I leave it sitting on a towel to dry. When I am done I wash the towel and the counter again becomes empty. I am not kidding when I say I am an empty counter extremist.

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          We just use the right side of the sink for drying. It has a little plastic grate insert to elevate the dishes and dirty dishes go into the left side, clean into the right, and then theyre dry by the next time you need to do dishes so they get put away. Only time its somewhat of an inconvenience is when i want to fill the brita pitcher and theres no bottom of the sink to rest it on so i have to hold it or place it on the counter and hold the sink hose over it.

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      I hate it too. My SO bought one and its not a great product. It’s hard to wash anything larger than a small pan, it leaks water everywhere, and makes cleaning the please difficult. It also looks horrible in our apartment kitchen.

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    Looks neat and space efficient, but I have questions about why someone keeps fruit next to the dishes.

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    wiki/Maiju_Gebhard

    Maiju Gebhard (September 15, 1896, in Helsinki – July 18, 1986, in Helsinki) was a Finnish inventor who invented the dish drying cabinet as the head of the household department at the Finnish Work Efficiency Institute in 1944 and 1945. She was the only child of economist Hannes Gebhard and politician Hedvig Gebhard.

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        I love this concept. The big problem is that a lot of American kitchens are (weirdly) modeled after old farmhouses where the sink was always under the one window in the whole room. The trend is absolutely hostile to this idea.

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        I like these a lot better since the dishes are put a lot higher, meaning more space to move between the shelf and the sink. Guess this makes me no longer young.

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      It’s also super cool that they had a productivity institute before. I wonder what we could have achieved with something like that today.

      There are so many ways we could make society more efficient for everyone. Companies mostly focus on smaller issues for consumers, but society could have a more overarching look, and not focus on profits, but on quality of life and efficiency.

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      Yup. Also: I’m tall, so now I can’t see everything that’s in the sink. It also needs some kind of anti-tip measure if the suggested use is to keep heavy dishes up high like that. Also, I’m not convinced this is sanitary - are we gonna get raw-chicken-water-splashback onto clean plates?

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        My short ass finds some of this helpful but not enough! It’s going to be difficult to get some of the stuff from the back of the top rack for me. More room though…

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        It’s a DRYING rack, it isn’t meant to be permanent storage. You wash the dishes after dinner, and place them in the rack. The next morning, after they’ve dried, the first thing you do is put them all back in the cabinets.

        However, I acknowledge that a LOT of people won’t bother with the second step.

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      This looks like AI.

      Why’s the drain on the side?
      What are those cinnamon sticks?
      Why put fruit on the drying rack?
      Blurry ass soap labels.
      The whisk and ladle are oddly placed.


      Alas. I was bamboozled. It’s real crap on Wayfair, and it’s modular. It’s just set up in a dumb way for the pictures.

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        I actually have this thing. The knife thing is annoying and it just sits on the back acting as a brace for the dishsoap bottle. The cutting board rack is kinda dumb because it just dries onto your counter.

        But the baskets are nice because they drain into the sink. It was a really cheap kitchen improvement purchase I don’t regret.

        What it needs though are raised rubber gasket lined feet so it doesn’t hold bits of water under the base you have to lift and wipe up. It’s cheap material and easily modified.

        /product review mode

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          knife thing is annoying

          Yeah, that was the first thing I found out, looking at the picture.
          One would have to tilt the holder backward to take out the knife and then make a very unnatural feeling motion to get it towards themselves. Even worse if there is no space behind the rack (there is a window in the picture that will enable that if opened)

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      Nah that’s just in the pictured configuration. The baskets and all the accessories just hook onto the rack frame so you can move things around to whatever config you want. Do the dish baskets on top of each other and leave the ‘flatter’ bits (like the knife block) for over the actual sink, much better config. Thirty second job even with the dishes on them.

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    Thats a pathetic little kitchen faucet. Real grownups use professional multi-spray kitchen faucets with removable head and swivel action…

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    I prefer the Dutch cabinet (I think that’s what they’re called) is what I want. It’s basically that except it’s in a cabinet.

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      But how do you dry the dishes once the dishwasher is done? Do you leave them in the dishwasher to dry, which mean that you can’t add new dished until it’s all dry and you’ve emptied it? Do you let them dry on a counter? But in that case where do you find enough space? Or do you put the wet dishes in your cupboards even though it’ll trap moisture in there? Or do you manually wipe the dishes with towels like some crazy people do?

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        I just open the dishwasher. Pull out the bottom rack, shake the top rack a bit and deal with any puddles. Anything that’s not dry just goes back in for another hour. Leave the door open until dry.

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        Good dishwashers have a heating element on the bottom. . It turns on and dries the dishes in a cloud of steam. There is also a button on mine that’s for high heat (sanitize) that I leave on. This ensures that the dishes get completely dry.

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          Really? Everytime I go to family or friends who have a dishwasher and help with emptying it, the dishes are always at least a bit wet… Maybe everyone I know just has cheap dishwashers 😅 Sanitizing on high heat seems like a great feature to have

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              That would be so convenient! Sanitizing pots and bottles in boiling water is a pain. THEY FLOAT. Plus the water is so hard here that after a long bath of boiling water you can barely see through the glass, they are clean but look so dirty 😡

              No space for a dishwasher though 😢

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      Right? I’d get more excited about a dishwasher.

      And I don’t mean one with tits. They also get to enjoy free time when the mechanical dishwasher is running.

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    It’s the double sink that gets me. I’ve lived in places with a double sink. I do not have a double sink right now.
    I need double sink in my life.

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        It makes washing dishes incredibly efficient, with less water wastage. I could wash the dishes for a family of four in absolutely no time at all, but without a double sink that takes much longer with more water used.

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          Single sink makes cleaning pans so much easier. Everything smaller goes in the dish washer, so much faster than hand cleaning.

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          As I understand from the other comments, it’s a place to put the dishes after they’ve been cleaned and ready for rinsing? The way I’ve always done it is I clean the largest vessel first, then everything goes into that vessel until it fills up, then do a round of rinsing. If I don’t have a large dirty vessel, I take out a large clean mixing bowl for this purpose.

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          I did, in that terrible time without the dishwasher, that I would like to forget. I was taking a plate, scrubbing it with a sponge and then rinsing it with clean water from the tap.
          Or do you want me to tell, y’all using a dirty sink full of dirty water to do it?

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          And you, just, like, put a clean dish in the same stale water as all the others? I am shivering just thinking about! Only the first couple of plates will be clean, everything else is dirty with the shit from previous plate!

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            I’m not sure what you mean. I fully wash the dish in the wash water, then put it in the straight hot rinse water for a minute or so before putting it in the drainer to air dry. The hot water helps them air dry faster and rinses the soap off. If the rinse water is any less than completely clear, I’m not washing the properly, and I drain and refresh the rinse sink. In my opinion it saves water over rinsing each dish under running water.

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            The rinse water is clean and stays clean. You’re rinsing off the soap suds. You can wash a shit ton of dishes and the end result is the wash water is dirty and the rinse water is clear. Frankly you’re being absurd, you’re not shoveling dirty water into the rinse water JFC. The rinse cycle on a dishwasher is wayyy worse.

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              How can it stay clean if you just put all your dirty plates there? And oils, all the oils are floating on top! And all the pieces and bits, just there!

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                Are you serious? Dish soap breaks down oil. You wash in the dish soap. Which breaks down the oil. Bits and pieces come off in the wash water. When you pick up the dish, the wash water comes off. Carrying the bits and pieces with it. Back into the wash water. Some soap suds remain, which you rinse off in the rinse water. Have you never washed dishes?

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                  It’s actually not exactly true. Soap doesn’t break down oil. It attaches to the oil molecules, and attaches to a water molecule by the other end. Which, when the water is running away and takes all this mess into the drain, is incredibly effective. With the stagnant pool of water, less so.
                  I did wash the dishes in buckets when I was young, lived in poverty, and had to do it all by hands. I still remember that feeling of always dirty dishes, that’s why I am always terrified when people do it on purpose.

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      I’ve always tried to tell my SO this, but she’s been skeptical. Now, we’re renting a smaller apartment while renovating our bath, and she absolutely detests having only one sink basin!

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        No not really. There’s pretty much zero maintenance on stainless steel sinks. Once in a blue moon you can wash down the sinks while doing dishes but it really happens less than you think.

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          To be fair I do have to wipe my sinks more often, only because we have rather hard water in this area. The scale builds up quickly.

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            Same here, I deep clean it, then as soon as I open the water for a split second, it’s all white again

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              I’ve resorted, about a year or so ago, to using large bottles of natural spring water for the kettle (when making tea/coffee).
              It’s an extra expense, however the lack of scaling has been lovely. Not had to clean my kettle once.

              My sink is another story though.

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                Yeah the kettle gets bottle water, it’d be a block of limestone by now otherwise.

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                Brita filters are cheaper per litre (you can do more than 100l per filter if it’s for a kettle) and create less waste. Personally I only change the filter when I notice residue in the kettle and it’s been so long I have to clean out the jug with citric acid so I clean the kettle at the same time.

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            Ok so that takes you what an extra 30-90 seconds like once or twice a month? That’s negligible. The other person Almost made it sound like he had to spend hours because of extra basin.

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              Yeah pretty much. It’s not a big issue though one which could become compounded into one if there is any slack with the cleaning times.

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      Most of the stuff that needs draining should flow mostly into the sink, but I do agree it looks like one could get where you don’t want.

      As for knocking it over, the “feet” look relatively sturdy, so ideally that would be difficult to do.

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    Looks terrible. I can’t use the sink without worrying about splashing the clean dishes. Disgusting. And they’re practically just hanging in my way.

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    We just got one of these a couple weeks ago, my mom and I got to crack up over this, thank you. Who knows how many more laughs I’ll be able to share with her before death comes knocking.

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      You know how to take your dish rack to the next level? Slap some large googly eyes on that bad boy. Surpise your mom. Make those memories.