I tried it for a while. Going back and reading it later just made me cringe so I stopped.

I honestly could not tell. It’s completely believable that something this stupid would exist. Like I didn’t necessarily believe it was but I wasn’t confident in either direction.

Guy named Mark: “What?” *gets shot*

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Perhaps I should have said a professional is not always necessary. If your biology falls within the normal range then you can figure this stuff out on your own. If you have something going on that makes your body not work the same way as most then yes you may need to consult a professional.

But that’s not how human beings are supposed to have to live. Most skinny people don’t have to count calories, they simply rely on their natural hunger levels to maintain their weight.

We’re supposed to be living in caves and gathering roots and berries. That ship sailed a long time ago and we have to deal with the reality of how we are living.

If a skinny person tries to eat past their set point, their body will actually fight them. If you try to eat past your set point, your body will force you to burn off calories in all sorts of ways. Your energy levels will soar, so you spend more time active. You’ll experience insomnia, so you spend more time active and burning more calories.

I’ve never experienced this. I can eat a ton if I choose to do so. The only thing “fighting” me is the capacity of my stomach. I don’t get more energy or insomnia either. If anything I feel shitty afterwards.

Weight is not a moral issue.

Never said it was.

We see now through the invention of drugs like Ozempic that the whole idea of calorie counting and brute force willpower to maintain weight is a Medieval and barbaric approach to the problem. We’ve taken a medical problem and turned it into a moral failing. It’s no different than how people used to ostracize, demonize, and banish those who caught leprosy.

Of course drugs can help, but drugs require access to healthcare, which we’ve established is something not everyone has available to them. I am simply saying that for a lot of people being mindful of your diet works. Yes, it does suck sometimes not being able to eat all the things you want but in the long run you’re going to be a lot better off by not dealing with the added health impact of obesity and all the problems that come with it. If someone has a health condition that prevents them from losing weight on a healthy diet I feel bad for them and they should seek treatment by whatever options are available to them but it is not the norm. All these posts from people like you make it sound completely hopeless when it’s not. I’m not demonizing people who have problems with their weight, just that if they’re not working on it they could be even if they are in a shitty situation. If they don’t want to that’s their decision. Life sucks and we all have to deal with it in whatever way works best for ourselves.

work

AKA planning and effort

I guarantee you don’t know shit about anyone’s health in your social circle because you think of yourself so highly that you can diagnose others just by how they ‘look’.

I don’t base it off how they look. I base it off their actions. I see them going out and getting 1000 calorie fast food combo meals for lunch every day and then talking about their Uber order on discord later that night. Eating an entire pizza and then getting an entree when we go out to the bar. Shit like that.

I don’t eat healthy food. I eat mostly fast food and boxed crap from costco my housemates make and I rarely feel full after eating a meal. Feeling full is not the goal when I eat, If you’re eating calorie dense stuff you have to get used to not being full. Your stomach also gets smaller over time if you do this so it takes less to feel “full” when you do.

You don’t need a professional. You don’t have to have it down to an exact science. There are calculators online that will get you in the ballpark and from there you just keep track of if it’s working or not and adjust your intake according to your goals.

For example, on paper I’m supposed to be consuming about 1600 calories a day to maintain but I’ve found that if I actually do that I gain weight. The real number is around 13-1400. Which can be quite challenging with the food options that I have but I do it. If I keep it under 1200 I lose weight until I get down to about 13-14% body fat (according to the scale I have which admittedly is probably not 100% accurate) and it levels off. I don’t go below that because I start feeling like shit all the time. This is all while living off mostly fast food and the boxed crap from costco that my housemates prepare.

For me at this point in my life trying to find someone to date just isn’t worth the effort. I have limited time, money, and mental energy and there are better ways to spend it than on women who for the most part won’t be interested in me anyway. Unless the relationship turns out great and we’re amazingly compatible it’s going to add more stress than it’s worth. I still go out with my friend (about 30% of whom are women) and we do various activities that I enjoy. I have hobbies that interest me and basically all my free time is occupied between stuff I want to do and chores. If some woman I know I get along with likes me enough to pursue something romantic I might give it a shot but otherwise I’m comfortable with things as they are and I don’t want to risk fucking that up by adding someone else into the mix.

I’ve not found loving someone to help with the quality of the sex all that much. Maybe they just didn’t love me back or something. The crazy one was always great and was the only one who wanted it as often as I did but the rest of that relationship was a mess.

Yea I’m not using anything that requires an app. If there’s an app I can host myself I might use it but I won’t rely on anything that can’t be controlled manually. The place I rent now has ceiling fans that are controlled by remote and I fucking hate them. It uses a shitty up/down button that has a horrendous delay or both the light and fan. It’s all the frustration of using a pull chain with no improvement. I can’t even figure out how to get it to switch directions for winter.

Most people don’t really control their weight by counting calories. They go by how they feel and our feelings,are heavily influenced by our biochemistry.

Yeah, and that’s why they’re overweight and that’s why I said it takes planning and effort. Wanting to feel “full” is a big part of the problem. The easy food options are too calorie dense for that.

But they do affect a lot of individuals in the same way. Those individuals can manage to maintain a healthy weight with a little planning and effort. Simply following CICO is enough for most people. I wouldn’t say being overweight is really a moral failing but it does typically show that someone who otherwise doesn’t have health problems is not making an effort to stay healthy. Most of my social circle falls into this category.

I’m dealing with all those things and I still maintain a healthy weight.

They don’t need to take away the command line. Just to make it so a low skill user can get by without it. Even windows ships with PowerShell.

You should read the whole thing before forming opinions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

perhaps we should give the other constitution a crack at it.

Plenty of people claiming to be on the side of science think they know everything too.

Also had to update virtually every time I touched it and half the time those updates would break it so I had to reinstall. I didn’t use it on a daily basis or anything and it’s been a few years so maybe they fixed that but it’s why I don’t currently use it (along with the fact that it’s a microsoft product and I’m trying to stay away from all their shit as much as possible).