NASA, with the tampons.
NASA once asked astronaut Sally Ride if 100 tampons would be enough for her week-long mission in space, but she later clarified that this number was excessive. While the engineers were concerned about potential needs, Ride humorously noted that a much smaller amount would suffice.
Tbh, this is not quite as dumb as it sounds. Tampons weigh nothing and if there’s no way to resupply, it’s not quite as dumb to take more than you need. What if, for example, there’s a series defect on these things and a large portion of them are defective?
In fact, when they asked her said it’s excessive, to which they told her they wanted to be on the safe side, so she said to cut it in half and bring 50pcs (which is still excessive for most periods, but on the safe side).
In fact, in the same mission they also brought jelly beans, which were entirely irrelevant to the mission, because Reagan insisted on his favourite snack to go to orbit. They were likely heavier than 100 tampons and also much less necessary up there.
Reagan probably got Nancy to shove them up his ass while performing her famous BJs.
Presidential Manpon
Tampons weigh nothing
When you’re dealing with the tyranny of rocketry, every gram matters.
That said, I agree with your point. The mass and volume was well within acceptable mission parameters.
On NASA defence is not the first time that due problems with vehicles an astronaut have to stay up there for much much much longer than their planed stance.
At the end I think the astronaut said that 50 would be enough. So the NASA estimate wasn’t really that far off. As it’s totally normal for a woman to use half or double the tampons than other woman during period.
But it is a funny story indeed.
Still a pretty dumb approach by the NASA guys. Didn’t it occur to them to ask a woman - any woman - before coming up with the initial estimate? Like “hey Sally, how many tampons do you normally need during your period? OK we’ll triple that for a safety margin.” There. Done.
They did ask her. Sure, they could have asked how many instead, but it probably came in a 100 count well within any significant mass margins, so they just asked if 100 would be enough.
it probably came in a 100 count
A 100-count box seems like an absurdly large unit size. Are you doing the very thing that the anecdote is intended to highlight?
They definitely come in 100 counts. This part isn’t speculation. I have no Idea what NASA procurement looks like though, and I don’t have anyone to ask.
100/hour? That might be enough, but we really want wider safety margins, don’t you think?
One of my favorite things about Lemmy ~ Star Trek references can occur anywhere, at any given moment.
I have a personal metric system for rating social networking platforms based on the percentage of Trekkies/Trekkers.
One of us! One of us!
Gooba Gabba, One of us!!
I just wish I saw more Star Wars references but not that bootleg Disney crap, I like my star wars like I like my bands in the EU.
As a purist, we can agree that the only real series was TNG, this was the cornerstone, built on the hallowed but kind of silly ground made by the original series, but followed by DS9 when we grew up a little, and we can kinda accept Voyager was a thing that happened somewhere in the distance but we don’t get too close.
There was nothing else. The franchise ended and we all moved on, happy for the good run. “ALL GOOD THINGS…”
wtf is a Star Trek “purist” and why should anyone care about your arbitrary opinion?
Burn the heretic!
why should anyone care about your arbitrary opinion
By this metric, what’s the point of even browsing any forums or websites at all? Everything is someone’s arbitrary opinion, if it makes you feel bad to read something you disagree with, you can’t fix that outside of yourself.
I love that your response to what a “star trek purist” is is a defense of bs opinions on the internet
It probably means different things for different people, because like every other fandom, it’s kinda arbitrary.
I was kind of purist. I started with TOS, but TNG, DS9, and VOY were right then too. Didn’t care as much for Voyager, but it was ok. Skipped Enterprise completely. I have TAS but haven’t watched it. Actively disliked the Kelvin movies. I’ve missed all the new stuff because I don’t stream, except Lower Decks, which I find delightful. I’m gonna pick up Picard and SNW soon.
My actual response to someone so cynical and unable to relax and banter about hobbies and fandoms is to block them. Bye.
I guess you missed the part where he quoted the exact part of your comment that he was replying to. Or do you just want to ignore that part so you don’t have to defend it?
you mean like they ignored the part of me asking what a “star trek purist” is? maybe you can shed some light on that.
A purist would know that it’s not Star Trek if Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are not present. We don’t need French men with English accents or William T. Ripoff!
this kind of negativity doesn’t help Star Wars, or any fandom.
Are you new on the internet?
no, but i am sick of it. we don’t have to be this way.
Focus that energy on areas that are making people actually contentious and hateful towards each other like rampant capitalistic greed, subversion of democracy and internet grifters who manufacture hate for engagement. Talking shit about the shows we like and don’t like is fun.
People have been debating their standards for media, entertainment and franchises for longer than we have written history. Literally, look up Roman graffiti. It’s fine, it’s fun even. If you’re seeing malice and stress in these kinds of debates, you need to back away from it entirely for a bit. Just don’t get involved, stay healthy.
part of that is calling out negative behaviours. critique is one thing. but there are too many shitbirds today who think it’s somehow cool and erudite to yuck other people’s yums.
as you said, a lot of the blame for encouraging and normalizing that behaviour goes to grifters, social media, capitalism. but every person gets to make a choice on what kind of person they want to be today and what energy they want to put out.
more ppl need to start choosing the good.
But have you searched for “communities containing ten forward” yet? :)
…I contribute content to them whilst drinking saurian brandy!
I didn’t know this was a thing. tyvm.
You are very welcome!
A round of drinks @ tenforward in celebration for our new friend!!
I agree, but after spending some time here, it’s amazing how sensitive the people are about their fandoms on these more niche communities. Like guys, come on… it’s just entertainment, you’re allowed to have opinions, not everything should make you feel so stressed.
At least in larger sites like reddit people can have lighthearted spats and debates about silly things like media. Some of the folks here really need some sunlight.
I just don’t feel like a real man if I don’t have my 125 daily lagers. I would surmise astronauts are the same. Maybe that’s why nothing gets done up there,… they’re being rationed !
You’d think that but due to reduced gravity in LOE it takes more beer to feel like a man. You can calculate the number of beers required by taking the number of beers at sea level times the distance from sea level in kilometers.
Good
chucklechugle
I don’t need 100 beers but I would like 100 beers
Plus like what if the mission lasts for a long time. If I plan on spending a week at a friend’s house but end up being there for much longer it won’t hurt to have more beers.
If we’re using NASA as a reference Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore were in space for 286 days instead of a planned week long mission. I definitely would rather have 100 beers in that situation over 12 beers
If we’re using NASA as a reference Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore were in space for 286 days instead of a planned week long mission.
They did get resupplied with additional clothing and personal effects after a few weeks.
Coincidentally, there is no laundry or shower on the international space station.
True, but just in case, would still rather have the 100 beers. Plus if I know more beers are coming I can worry less about rationing the beers
Nah. Heat is a real issue on the space station. Maybe a 6 pack for the three Xonauts that were up there, but excess sweating and excess heat production is a real concern for the ISS, or really any spacecraft, they have heatsinks that stick into a vacuum, and that is the problem. The vacuum is only ≈3K, or -270.15° C, but a vacuum is not particularly receptive to heat dispersal. Up on the ISS or any other spacecraft, you really wouldn’t want alcohol at all. It would absolutely cause you to burn too hot, causing excess heat to be introduced into the system.
Weed edibles should be a better option. Specifically NOT flower or concentrates since even a vape is going to be introducing, potentially, too much heat into the craft.
Actually, I wanna see some Xonauts do some Shrooms.
Didnt the Soviets supply their guys with vodka?
The Soviets did all sorts of inadvisable things with their space program
The vacuum is only ≈3K, or -270.15° C, but a vacuum is not particularly receptive to heat dispersal.
This is true for all of the black parts of the sky.
It is not true for that big yellow ball that shines on the space station half of the time. That big yellow ball is as bright and hot as a hot desert day on the surface. Daylight can raise the vacuum temp up to +250 or +300 C. And it also means that the night time temps don’t cool down all the way to 3K.
So the ISS is continuously exposed to these thermal cycles on the outside. As a heat load these should dwarf any marginal heat loads introduced by whatever recreational drugs. And the station has to have radiator capacity handle it all plus margin. Remember, too, that the ISS crew also has to do hard exercise 2 hours per day.
So what you’re saying is the cooling system would in fact be OK with my 100 beer ration
Yes, but you won’t be okay with the two hour treadmill sessions after drinking 100 beers.
Coincidentally, there is no laundry or shower on the international space station.
Adding to that: Worn clothes are “thrown out the window” and burn up in the atmosphere.
I feel like informing women astronauts the current stock level of tampons on the ISS will come across as misogynistic, regardless of how factual and procedural the conveyance of information would be.
But I would also like to wake up in the morning.
I’m not sure whether that’s a hot take, and I know there are different levels of tolerance, but I think you might have a problem if you drink 20 beers in 2-3 days (assuming 4-6% alcohol). Or at least you will probably have, starting day 2 :D
I mean, if you’re doing a full weekend of activities with friends those beers could be spaced out far enough that you’re never more than slightly buzzed (small cans, <5%ABV). But yeah, if it’s a regular thing, it’s not a great look.
Yeah if you crack open the first cold one at noon when it gets hot while you’re helping with some outdoors work and finish your last one at 3 AM talking shit with your friends, you probably never get drunk with those amounts. If you drink it all over 4 hours per evening, different story.
Yeah at the slow paces outside you’re more likely to get dehydrated than drunk.
Idk, 10 liters of beer a day is kinda hydro tho
Really depends on whether we’re talking 0.33l oder 0.5l.
There is a big difference if it’s a periodic activity or a one time party thing. If it’s a one time one, it’s not a big deal, apart from heavy hangover afterwards.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy), so that one party can potentially (EDIT: Pay attention to this word and stop blowing things out of proportion lemmy! Potential does not mean always, it means there is a chance involved) fuck you up more than periodical drinking. I think it was called alcoholic cerebellar degeneration. This is why I refuse to touch strong drinks like vodka and whenever I drink beer, I take a sip once per minute or two, not chug the can in 5 minutes, and never drink again in the next few days.
Consume your drugs responsibly, people.
Do you realize how much “too much” is in your scenario?
Like alcohol poisoning dead level. Can’t walk. Can’t stay awake. Can’t breathe. Can’t do anything.
And I’ve seen people like that in parties. Several times in my life, it resulted with ER visit. Said people are younger than me and already look drunk even when sober, while others who enjoy the occosional beer after work are fine their entire lives.
Did not realize how much lemmy defends alcohol, and I’m from East Europe where I’ve seen more than you’ll ever read online.
This isn’t about “defending” anything. Alcohol is a dangerous substance. And most people here know that.
That said your level of fear mongering is extreme to say the least. You sound like someone telling everyone not to go within 1km of an ankle deep pond because they’ll drown.
While possible in both cases to get permanent brain damage or drown. It is extremely unlikely on a winning a large lotto level.
Almost all people will pass out or start throwing up, long before they get near that level. Especially if they are not already an alcoholic with huge tolerance.
Source: 20 year hard core binge drinking alcoholic (20-30 drinks a day or more). That has been in the hospital 6 times for withdraw myself. And in rehab multiple times with large groups of other extreme alcoholics…
Edit: I strongly suspect most (if not all) those you thought had that condition were actually under the influence. Daily drinking alcoholics are extremely good at both hiding it ( oh I have to go to the bathroom) and lying about. They will tell you straight to your face they haven’t had a drink in weeks after you just caught them drinking a beer.
Alcoholic cerebellar degeneration is caused by chronic consumption.
If you aren’t alcoholic already, and unless you have some very specific condition, the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
Drinking a lot is still dangerous, but mostly due to drunken behaviour.
You’re indeed right that drugs should be consumed responsibly, and alcohol is poison, but it’s also not that dangerous, unless it’s an addiction.the body will start getting rid of alcohol way quicker than you will be consuming it, through any means necessary.
This shit is getting upvoted while I’m getting downvoted? Tell this to any medical professional and they will look at you the same way I look at flat earthers. Alcohol metabolism is capped, while your ability to consume it isn’t nearly as capped as your body’s ability to deal with it. That “by any means necessary” makes it far worse. Those who know, will know.
Another side note - tolerance /= faster metabolism.
Chug on few vodkas per hour and report back to me about your myth (or should I say, forward your autopsy report to me?)
My man, if you think I didn’t do my fair share of stupid drinking, you’re severely underestimating what college does to a young man.
Things that I did and not particularly proud of:- drinking a standart 0.5 liter bottle of vodka in one gulp (the trick is to swirl it so it does a little whirlwind, this way it creates laminal flow)
- drinking 80% proof alcohol like it was regular vodka
- drinking so much beer in one sitting, it was sloshing inside me like I was a baloon.
- much much more.
Was it not smart? Yeah, totally. Was it fun? If you account for all the vomiting and hangovers and states of total drunkinnes, overal no, it wasn’t fun, don’t recommend. Did it give me any permanent damage including death? Nope, I was lucky enough to be smart enough to not make it an addiction, and because of that I am alive and as healthy as I could be at my age.
Humans themselves typically don’t feel their cerebellum shrinking or damaging. Others, who know you well, notice it way before you.
- You are not much fun. 2. You have never been to a good party. 3. Humanity owes its existence to alcohol. Beer and wine were the only safe drinks before water purification.
Alcohol also creates reproduction.
You also will vomit when too much alcohol is consumed. Even if you are passed out.
Ask me how much alcohol and different drugs, including rarely known ones like 25l-nbome I’ve used. Medical field and drugs have always fascinated me, hence my excessive reading on it and the potential dangers associated with them. What I said isn’t also some hard-coded event that will most definitely happen, it’s actually mostly down to genetics where some will deal with said substances better than others. Look up super-hangover gene (forgot what was it called ironically)
You all seem to be ignoring the “potentially” word from my original comment.
Potentially is doing too much heavy lifting. Everything can Potentially kill you. Excess water consumption kills you better than alcohol
Eating beef could Potentially kill you with brain parasites. Lettuce coils Potentially kill you with e coli.
You can get permament drunk guy syndrome/brain damage (people who look drunk even when sober) from consuming too much in a short period (chugging like crazy),
I have never heard of this in over half a century of drinking. Link or you made it up. Difficulty: no links to Mormon/religious nutcase made up shit.
I literally gave you the name for it, just put it on PubMed
I literally just entered your search terms and literally clicked search and, literally, I mean it, not figuratively, literally it responded:
No results were found. Your search was processed without automatic term mapping because it retrieved zero results.
I literally just copy/pasted that response here because I literally knew you are making shit up, you lying propagandist.
Lying. Propagandist. Go back to handing out Chick tracts to people who toss them in the recycling bin.
Take your pills
In case you aren’t a troll or schizo, you can start here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8391842/
No, I’ve seen your complete lies and lack of evidence. Go back to rocking by yourself, I ain’t biting no more.
20 beers
There’s no volume stated here… is 1 beer a pint, 0.5 liters, small bottle/can of .33 liters, 2 liter bottle.
If it’s the the small bottle it’s not that much
Where can you get beer by the 2 liter?
In Hungary and Croatia for example
Generally most consider a “beer” 355ml (12oz us) give or take.
No…?
A bottle in germany is 0.5liters, in italy it’s quite 50/50 between 0.33 and 0.66 liters.
0.33 in Nordics. Then also 0.4, common bar serving, and 0.5l can and full pint, 0.568l cans.
But “a beer” in the Nordics would generally be 0.33 from a can and 0.4l from a tap
Which is why I said give or take :)
Yup. It is indeed. I just wanted to add info.
Sometimes I seem sodas in 0.355 cans, mostly red bull. Somewhat uncommon size here imo, and I’m just wondering where theyre used. 0.355 seems like a US size, but the bottles I got from Germany were mostly 0.33l aa well. Although the cans were like 0.6l
Just wondering how prevalent and mismatched the standards are
12 oz “US”
If it’s like a once a year event, is it really that bad? It’s what I do for summer solstice. I don’t easily get drunk though. Maybe 15 beers an evening to get me drunk, so 30-40 for a weekend if I were to drink only beer and nothing stronger.
Assuming 12oz beers at 5% ABV, that you’re a man at the global average weight of 180lbs, and have a healthy liver, if you paced yourself to 1 beer every 1.5 hours over the course of your 16 waking hours per day, your BAC would never exceed 0.02, you’d have 5-10 minutes between beers with a BAC of 0, and you’d drink about 12 beers in a day.
Most people would not be noticeably intoxicated by this and probably wouldn’t experience any kind of hangover. They might wind up a bit dehydrated if that’s the only thing they drink. It’s also definitely not advisable to do that over any extended period of time.
That explains why my perception is off, I weigh more like 140 :D
We don’t serve people who awaken trolls here
Brutal
Oh we got that in Finland btw
(it was a marketing campaign, not a default size)
Did they cut down to 100 because the 1000 pack from before wasn’t selling?
At least one guy bought it
I think that’s just a rival company supposedly one-upping them, but that’s not a “real” pack, it’s just a pallet of 24-packs wrapped in a sign saying “1000-pack”.
Cheers though I wasn’t aware of this before
if he likes shit beer, get a 12 pack, good beer, 6 pack
I remember watching the X-files sometimes in the noughties and Mulder came up with a deduction; “it must’ve been two men…nobody drinks two six-packs alone” and I just cracked up.
12-pack was like a medium for the night, 24 a heavier. Plus bars usually. (Finn here.)
Also, alcoholics are real. My dad used to go through a 24 a day just to maintain. The liquor on top of that was to actually feel intoxicated.
Yeah tbh, most people didn’t finish their beers, so only drank like 80% of a can they were everywhere, and usually people bum one or two.
And unless we were at some festival, people wouldn’t have time to destroy 24 + bar drinks.
But cruise ships? Three days of innumerable drinks of all sorts.
I kinda miss that though. The adventure and friends, not drinking that much.
12 pack, sure… but 2 six-packs is different, ain’t it?
Perhaps the store was out of 12-packs.
Also at that time, in like early 90’s (in the tv show), I don’t think 12-pack was that common
No. We’ve had 6 packs, 12 packs, and cases since at least the 70s.
Source: I bought pretty much every packaging that Old Style was sold in during late 70s and early 80s.
Non-existent=/=common
12 packs were pretty much the default packaging.
Get a 12 pack of beer and a medium sized nice liquor bottle as backup
At 27, i would have put down 12 light beers before dinner while on a trip with no real responsibilities.
Five Hundred Cigarettes
And a lighter.
We must have more!
Edit: Why would people downvote this? I actually want to know if anyone has an idea
What in the ever-loving AI is wrong with that guys skin?
He looks like a second life character.
I just remembered the Suite Life on deck second life episode or was that a fever dream?
Too many beers?
we have found the qa tester.
I’ll have -1 beers.
I’ll have <r-*0> beers.
I’ll have all beers.
Then a player asks to use the toilet. The pub explodes
I’ll have✌️beers.
I don’t care why people “downvoted” your post before the edit but I did it because of the edit.
Edgy. I like it.
If he’s my friend, I’d tell him to pick up the beer on the way over. Let him deal with it.
Yeah this is the actual solution. With that said, I would be fucking stoked if I showed up to a friends house and they showered me with 100 beers.
I only upvoted for the Darmok reference and the actual photo still hasn’t loaded to see if the reference is valid.
It’s valid
@Xulai@mander.xyz , when it was valid!
27? 30. 37? 2.
37! my girlfriend sucked 37 dicks!
Instructions unclear, your girlfriend now has (37! - 37) dicks remaining to suck.
yknow i told this joke on reddit like 10 years ago and i got like 20 comments related to math
In a row?!
Amazing, did you beat her? Did you win?
Only if I can include other various phallic shaped objects in the contest.
You start with 100 bottles of beer on the wall…
What happens if one were to fall…
Well then someones got some cleaning to do.
