• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    Progress is exponential, anon.

    That first spark is much harder to produce than the fire that follows.

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    Every invention or discovery sped up our development. We wasted hundreds of thousands of years chasing prey and foraging for food with little to no time or energy to spare for anything else. Agriculture gave us excess time and energy to pursue other things than bare survival. Writing allowed us to better record and share ideas and knowledge. Mathematics allowed us to better understand the world. Fertilizer allowed us to boost our food production and population, which meant more brains to figure things out. Computers allowed us to almost instantly solve problems that would have taken centuries to do by hand, further speeding up our technological development. All of it has been exponential so far.

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    they spent a large chunk of that 190k years hooting at each other because it took FOREVER to develop language

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    Take it back farther.

    First cellular life 3,800,000,000 years ago. Then 3,300,000,000 years of just single cell organisms. Then in the last 15% of the history of life on Earth, everything else.

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    Cavemen were really busy chasing various animals and running away from various animals. Then there’s whole exploring new lands and encountering other humans species. Progress could be slow and cataclysm were a many

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    There wasn’t really a material need to invent concepts such as agriculture, debt and other kinds of concepts we recognize as part of documented human history and development. There’s no need to farm if few humans there are can sustain themselves via hunting and gathering, neither do you need wheels for transportation. Once there was a historical need due to higher populations or weather not allowing foraging, that’s when the concepts got invented and allowed us to build on that with other discoveries and concepts that led us here.

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      If there’s one hard lesson of history I keep relearning, it’s that almost nothing ever happens until it materially is required to happen. Language and agriculture waited until population density was high enough. The industrial revolution didn’t happen until the logistics and population sizes again necessitated massive changes, even though the steam engine was hundreds of years old. Revolutions don’t happen until the population is starving.

      If anything in history is impressive it’s the rare individuals and societies that change before they’re forced to by material necessity (and those cases are often debatable). Really dampens the notion of idealism being viable.

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      There’s no need to farm if few humans there are can sustain themselves via farming

      That is wisdom right there

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      Actually the biggest factor was most likely the development of language, which probably required certain evolutionary traits in order to be possible. With language, collaboration and cooperation become much easier, which leads to fire and cooking and other ideas like that. You get to writing things down a lot later.

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        The person before you is referencing the speed lf development. It is very likely that humans possessed relatively sophisticated language for the 190k years ebfore civilization happened. Exponential, or at least greatly accelerated, growth seems to really pick up after writtrn language happens in many cases.

        theres evidence of cooking by honinid species stretching back well, WELL before homo sapiens arrived on the scene, and plenty of evidence suggesting people like had sophisticated language for that time as well.

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        It’s about the communication of technology, not the technological advancement itself. Language is a relatively recent human adaptation.

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    Developing crops that are worth farming was a really hard technology to develop and took thousands of years of slowly getting better aged better crops.

    once we had them, civilization began.

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    Several million not 200k

    And the reason is that the species invented agriculture due to natural climate change (not to be confused with the current man-made climate change if anyone was worried) which allowed for a significantly larger portion of the population to not have to work on making food. Also the industrial revolution was its own similar thing.

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      If you count homo habilis and homo erectus, then yes. Homo sapiens are closer to 300K then 200k.
      Something interesting occurred genetically around 60-65K years ago with sapiens that kicked cultural development into high gear, so really should start counting from there.