• Zanz@lemmy.ml
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      Lg tried it on refrigerators, even though refrigerators are not delivered in boxes.So the customer never receives them. The delayed or denied every warranty claim on their stupid 2 stage refrigerant pump, then said since the customer opened the box with the terms agreement that they couldn’t sue. It took more than a year to resolve just that there could be a class action lawsuit against LG.

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        I had one of these fridges. The pumps even got an extended warranty since they failed so often. Mine died on year 6 of the 5 year standard MFG and it still got fixed for free because of the class action lawsuit.

        I learned about the lawsuit after the fact too.

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          The good news is that these things pass, buddy. All things pass, and it’s almost over really. This economy, this president, they won’t last forever. This country, this current set of land masses, this current set of planets. It’s all gonna just…pass. Gonna be just one drop in a lake of space and an ocean of time. Gonna be pressed into a microscopic crease in the fabric of a spacetime already contorted by titanic folds of incomprehensible number and arrangement. Until it can hardly be said to have happened at all.

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          The good news is you can choose to save your unborn children the pain of existence on planet earth.

          Get a vasectomy. For them.

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      Yeah they really slipped up by saying “and” using it, as opposed to “or”.

      I’m going to gnaw into it like a little rat.

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    11 days ago

    Interesting how we’ve all become accustomed to the notion that “agreeing to arbitration” has just become “waving your consumer rights” and no lawmaker is pushing to have that fixed.

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    Obvious solution is to not only return that one, but then go to a different brand of store, buy a bunch, then return them the next day. Repeat for each kind of store you can reach that sells them.

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    Shit like this is rarely enforceable but in order to find out, you need to have money.

    What I like to do is clap back and send them my own terms and conditions, with the stipulation that if they don’t write back, then they are accepting them.

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      Just fyi, a biased judge could hold you to even the tiniest loophole the company might find if you send them terms that you define without their input. Still totally do it (IANAL), but you might want to either use boilerplate language whose implications you fully understand or run it by a lawyer.

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        Oddly no but I suspect that it’s either due to them not caring enough for one person doing this or them thinking their T&Cs will prevail in court.

        For me, I don’t see a loss. Either my contract doesn’t hold up, which means that I only lose time and money or it does hold up in which case I lose time and they (and every other company that has clauses where you accept terms by continuing services) loses their contract terms.

        If it ever came to it, I would bet the company would choose to settle rather than risk a president being set.

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      That’s actually legally binding, still do long as it’s ensured mail (or whatever your country calls it when a signature is required to accept the package).

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      An unregulated “nutritional” supplement. If it puts you on dialysis for the rest of your life - arbitration only and the best they can offer is a 25% discount on your next purchase. Limit 2.

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      Delevoping liver issues, that’s what it is.

      aka Protein powder

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        This got me curious because I’ve never heard of this, atleast according to this study it does not cause liver issues if you use it properly, aka you exercise and don’t just drink it casually.

        “The results showed that when whey protein is used in an uninformed manner and without exercising, adverse effects on the liver may occur by increasing the apoptotic signal in the short term and increasing inflammatory markers and hepatotoxicity in the long term.” - link

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          Yes, that’s the reason, not that it’s generally bad. I shouldve clarified.

          It’s way too easy to take too much. Most people just take their whole daily dose or more with those drinks and forgetting that they get protein from the regular food as well. Most people don’t even know how much protein their body is able to process in a day.

          Add too much magnesium to it and your blood tests will show how bad it is for you, and your doctor will get mad at you.

          We don’t need this unless youre doing Sport all day long.

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    Add to this the fact they try to enforce mandatory arbitration - a thing that shouldn’t ever exist to begin with, in any jurisdiction, and is actually unenforceable in many.

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          I’m pretty sure forced arbitration is in fact legal and enforceable in the US (at least for the most part? I am not a lawyer)

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            Unfortunately, the US doesn’t yet consider that a legal right. Sadly, courts take the position that if you don’t agree with the terms, don’t buy the product. Even in the cases where you couldn’t access the terms ahead of the sale.

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        This, and contract details that are shown after opening the packaging (as seen here covered by the lid) are void.

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        The legal system in Australia is better because if you win a lawsuit, the losing side usually has to pay your legal fees. As a result, there’s far fewer frivolous lawsuits, and companies don’t drag out lawsuits hoping the other party runs out of money (which is a common tactic in the USA), since they could be on the hook for all those costs.

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    Has this been revealed after opening product? What a shit company. Are customers expected to read the T&C’s every time someone opens the packaging? FYI, the page mentioned links to 4 additional pages and one of them is a 404.

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    Ah! that one of the worst parts of the internet, and they’ve figured out a way to make it real.

    At least they mention the arbitration upfront, I guess.

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    Name and shame. First off ,if in u.s. then most likely not legal and wouldn’t hold up in court. Secondly why would anyone ever agree to put something in their body with this kinda advertisement??

    Name and Shane plz

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    This is Vital Proteins brilliant response to being taken to court over heavy metal and “foreign materials” contamination in their products.