Quick reminder: libs spent decades telling us to respect others’ religious beliefs or else said stupid shit like “not ALL christians!!”
This is what you get for removing the guardrails.
Not a single Christian among them. What exactly are they praying for, did anyone ask?
The concept of God was invented because it’s an unbearable thought to think that men like these will get away scot free with what they’re doing
The concept of God was invented by men like these to enable exactly what they’re doing :)
It’s the ultimate authoritarian power fantasy, and the human mouthpieces for that ultimate authority tend to be very well taken care of.
Optics, they are praying for optics.
Jesus actually said something about that, it turns out. Not that it matters to these knuckleheads.
It’s funny how fast Murica has fallen into authoritarianism, I’m genuinely having a hard time believing that such a large portion of the population can be so stupid.
Think of how stupid the average person is
Half of em are dumber than that
RIP St George
We need him now more than ever. He’d happily carry our disdain.
It’s been the calculated plan for far longer than I can remember.
Conservative politics relies on stupid uneducated voters incapable of critical thinking.
The voters that, with a lack of actual knowledge of their own through either experience, formal education or even just good old fashioned intellectual curiosity about the world around them, will happily cede their opinion to the first authority figure who tells them what they are already presdisposed to believe and confirm their biases.
It’s the entire reason there has been a coordinated attack on the liberal arts and college education under the guise of “financial constraints” and the push in the last few decades towards trade schools.
Conservative politics requires stupid who are content to learn how to be a tradesman, without any of that inconventient history or critical thinking getting in the way.
I get that’s been the game plan, and to be honest it’s worked perfectly, but poor people actually gloating about “owning the libs” while shooting themselves in the foot, the face and all else beggars belief!
The truest line ever uttered in film…
“A person can be smart. But people are dumb, panicky dangerous animals, and you know it.” – Kay from MiB
We’ve all been hardwired with groupthink. We had to be. When a member of your tribe comes running by in a panic, you don’t have time to stop and think what the hell is he running from?, you just start running along with him. It’s the difference between living to hunt another day or getting killed by a bigger predator than you are.
The more people that are running. The more important it is (to our brain) to just start legging it. No one wants to be the straggler at the back that gets picked off. For that reason, group-think and herd-mentality skews incredibly towards the simplistic. In terms of evolution, there’s no time to worry about the why…you just trust that if everyone else is running, you probably should be too. In terms of modern day that is the susceptibility of uneducated people to dogma, polemics and confirmation bias.
A single person…and individual that has critical thinking skills and the ability to look at the wider context, can overcome that instint. They can stop and say “hmmm…maybe I should look and see if this really is something that is going to harm me.” They can reason themselves out of group-think.
But without that context. Without that critical thinking, you have almost no choice but to rely on the fact that if someone is telling you to run, they must know more than you…so get it in gear.
Whether that person is telling you to run from a predator, or to hate immigrants, it’s all due to the same inherent mentality in humans.
Spot on regarding the person vs group. Being a fan of history I’m amazed at how far we’ve come technologically, but how our base instincts haven’t changed. Even in the face of all the evidence about our behaviour historically, we repeat our mistakes time and again.
It’s the good-ol’ lizard brain and it isn’t going away.
It’s the part of the brain that controls emotions, moods, fear, fight-or-flight, etc… The Limbic Cortex
The sole purpose of critical thinking skills and knowledge of things like history, civics, etc… (whether that comes from education, experience or just good old fashioned intellectual curiosity) is to give the rest of our brain the context necessary to override that lizard brain. (In my opinion).
Too many people just don’t care enough about the world around them to bother with that and are content to just let their lizard brain run things. It’s these people that are susceptible to group-think, and it’s these people (ironically) who think that they are ones who are thinking for themselves when in reality it’s quite the opposite.
They’re not praying, they’re huddling to come up with another evil plan.
How about one night we smash the windows of Latino owned businesses so they know we really don’t want them.
Right before they pass some abysmal legislation that would make Jesus weep
I’m pretty sure he’d skip weeping and go straight for the whip and upending of tables.
*wheeping
I don’t get this one… Did the spelling of weeping change?
It’s a portmanteau with a Spanish accent.
Totally performative. Just a bunch of assholes.
It’s worse than that. They’re praying very sincerely to be successful in taking any money and assistance away from poor people, children, and the elderly, and transferring it to the already wealthy. And of course prayer granted. I’m just so sad that the only hell that exists is the one they’ve created on earth, and it’s the one they make for everyone but themselves to live in.
Or they’re playing Soggy Biscuit. Either way, it’s about as effective as a form of government.
None of those motherfuckers are going to heaven.
I’m sad there isn’t a heaven for them to be excluded from.
If there were a heaven, it would 100% be only for wealthy people. Pearly gates? Golden streets? Nirvana? Eternal peace? That’s rich people shit. I certainly can’t afford that.
Heaven as a persistent idea in modern society is just a cope that rich people feed poor people through religion. It’s a structure for us to accept our miserable earthly existence in anticipation of future wealth so that the rich can enjoy all of the trappings of heaven on earth.
It’s just metaphysical trickle down economics.
kinda like an… opium? …of the masses?
You should trademark that.
I wonder if there is anyone in the group that is actually praying or they are all just pretending for the others
It’s virtue signalling.
Even if any of them believe they are praying, their “faith” is a sham in support of their real religion: power. To Republicans, “politics” is the religion founded on increasing personal power through performative speech and conduct.
They are hollow, nihilistic simulacrums of human-like virtue, expressing themselves only to drain the actual human value and agency from the public.
To Satan, I presume.
No, Satan dared to defy his father and was thrown out of the house.
None of these fucks would dare defy their daddy Trump.
Satan has a stronger sense of morals than these things that pretend to be people. They’ve really motivated me to join the satanic church.
This is called taking the Lord’s name in vain. But they tell people that’s saying omg
yet more evidence religion is a sham. If god were real, they would most certainly be dead.
Ive seen circles like that and it aint praying. I wonder who the lucky guy in the middle is?
To some morons on Lemmy, these people are actually just doing what democrats want to do. Despite the fact that we’ll have at least 8 years of Democrats trying to undo this shit, it inevitably won’t be good enough and that will be their proof. “See, Democrats are the same” these smug fucking morons will say. And someday I may punch their thoughtless faces for it.
Should have begun charging Trump immediately after Biden took office, instead of taking over 2 years to even get started. Voting rights act on day 1? Not a priority. Could have done things for the working class promised during campaign season, instead got stopped by the almighty senate parliamentarian…even while in power just nothing the poor Dems could do, except collect donations from rube voters of course. Could have held a primary election for ‘24 in good faith to energize the base by letting them choose their party leader (inevitably would not have been a corporate stooge) - didn’t, tried to run a known advanced dementia sufferer, and when that didn’t work, just anointed another corporate stooge.
The Dems are complicit, and voting for them is not going to combat this fascist regime one bit. Pull your head out of your ass and wake up.
First paragraph – totally with you. Onboard 100%, A+
Last sentence, unhelpful, leads to republicans taking office and skullfucking the shit out of this country. I don’t make that informal rules, I’ve just seen them play out repeatedly.
These discussions always assume the elections are fair, which in many states is not true.
Perhaps instead of bickering about unimportant stuff ( at least to me they are not important), everyone griping should at least check to make sure their local elections at least meet United Nations specifications? Maybe they do, but depending where you are at, probably not.
I will never ever understand political discussions done by the majority of Americans.
Political discussions between strangers probably never will be productive. I am just frustrated and fed up with the stupid ideas I see floating around. People who don’t understand the country’s politics are influencing it with this “both sides” bullshit and it’s ruined our country because now the worst imaginable humans rule over us. Before it was a mix of people between true human garbage and genuinely well meaning people. It is idiotic to suggest everyone is fully on one side or the other, but that’s what these idiots are peddling. And it’s working unfortunately.
Eh, it’s been a long journey for me. Years ago I was active in the Democratic Party in Texas, later I was a keyboard warrior who wrote millions of words, none of which did any good.
Now I just want fair elections; again writing words, now in a very small community, that also does no good.
But I’m done with the partisan stuff, and think both sides are equally out of their minds.
Democracies need accurate ballot counting, most states fail this. The primaries in both parties and the general elections have been tampered with for decades in many states. This has totally changed the character and leadership of both parties over the decades.
This is not a falsifiable argument because the only way to prove the above is wrong is to not use the election machines run by private organizations. While at the same time exit polls and stats hint of extreme ballot stuffing by these very companies. It’s not rocket science.
But, most commentators and social media participants in USA politics don’t care or want to know.
The ballot manipulation will allow democrats to win the midterms by a landslide, and most likely have the presidency again in 2028, and people who want paper ballots will be rendered mute again by most. Then next cycle the republicans will win again!
It’s a very long game, with each iteration moving more wealth away from the majority. And the only way to fix it is with paper ballots counted in front of witnesses and unlimited recounts allowed. Even then, it will take a long time to fix
Agreed we need much better voting protections and a complete overhaul of the system, with national standards the states should be required to meet. I think there is probably a more modern solution available that would satisfy the requirements you’ve laid out, but would be happy to start with paper ballots if that’s all we can muster. Eventually I’d like to see something like a 1 way hash that can be combined with some of a voter’s PII to publicly verify votes cast and results while protecting voter identities.
Most democracies use hand counted paper ballots. It works, and it’s fast enough, no need to improve it.
I don’t understand the American need to tinker with a good system.
That said, there is no way the majority of USA states will switch over to better counting systems. Some areas of the world will never be able to be truly democratic. The Americans have some weird system that works for their upper class, and the lower classes fully believe in it. This will not change in my lifetime
I’m glad we have some agreement at least.
I’d just like to remind you that we’ve voted Dems into a super majority 3 times in the past 25 years, and every time they find some excuse to do nothing. It’s infuriating, until you realize that they are controlled opposition in an oligarchy, and the point of modern American government is to help the richest people in the world exploit and rob vulnerable Americans for everything they’re worth. Then it’s just sad to see people continually going to bat for them.
Dems are a pressure relief valve and a fundraising organization, nothing more.
About 10 minutes ago a bunch of you started this conspiracy theory and to say the least: not buying it. Coming up with convoluted ways of explaining reality is just a distraction from the fact that it’s complicated and hard to understand
What conspiracy theory? Dems are bought, for just one example look at how they lick Israel’s boots and eagerly spend our money on killing Palestinian babies because their AIPAC handler pays them to do so. That doesn’t help us at home, and it doesn’t resonate with the voter base, yet they still collect the money and do the donor bidding every time.
I want actual representation, by stark contrast.
There is no conspiracy here other than the apparent belief that Democrats have democracy and the American people’s best interests in mind. Sure, there’s Bernie, but he won’t call himself a Dem - the reason why is no conspiracy, and that should tell you a lot about the Dem party.
A dodge of the obvious point I made, and a poor one
The Dems are complicit, and voting for them is not going to combat this fascist regime one bit. Pull your head out of your ass and wake up.
“I would rather actively help the fascists take over instead of choosing the status quo over evil.” they said smugly from their high horse.
The Dems are also fascists. I’m not saying support republicans, I’m saying support a new party altogether. The establishment has been screwing us for over 50 years now, and helping the Dems inevitably leads to more of the same.
Weak-minded fools.
If these people have their way, the USA will become a religious autocracy that respects human rights on a level comparable to that in Iran.
But only for men. Women will be treated like in Afghanistan.
Yeah so, fun fact, they got their way.
Straight out of Handmaids tale. Commander Waterford
