And of course they had to shoehorn some AI bullshit in it

(why I installed this driver: because i can remap the two extra buttons as copy/paste)

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    Saving this to share at work. What an abomination that, I am sorry you have to deal with it

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    X mouse button control

    It can’t detect some of the fancier buttons and gestures but it can often pickup buttons 4 and 5 for remapping, and it does chording and long press options to give you multiple functions without any AI bullshit.

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      The Internet is so bloated because every page is bursting with telemetry and spa framework bullshit that over engineers a fucking music recital site.

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      Piper is less than 2MB, and allows reconfiguring Logitech mouse buttons. It’s available in Debian and Ubuntu package managers.

      Screenshot:

      I had to use Piper to get exotic features like having mouse 6, 7, 8 buttons function as mouse 6, 7, 8, rather than the default of alt-tab and ctrl-v.

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        This is not a driver. The README itself says:

        Piper is merely a graphical frontend to the ratbagd DBus daemon

        ratbagd itself, BTW, is also not a driver.

        The unofficial open source license is called logiops, and according to the Debian site most of its builds are also under 2MB (and the two builds that aren’t are only slightly bigger)

        There is also RatSlap, which I can’t find information on how big it is (and I’m not going to bother installing it just to find out)

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        I never thought to look for something like this, but it looks fantastic so i’m going to try it. Thanks!

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            I think he meant as in “if this is the first ever GTK application you install via flatpak”. The “Installed Size” on Flathub only indicates the amount of storage the program itself will take up and doesn’t take into account the libraries it will install alongside it (installing piper via flatpak takes up 400MB on my device).

            I still think it is really negligible because people usually don’t install applications that use such a variety of different graphical frameworks, and also because modern PC disk capacities are so absurdly big compared to past ones. I only have a 256GB drive and have never faced any issues regarding how much storage flatpak apps use.

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              I have flatpaks installed but not org.gnome.* note not first gtk app the first that require gnome runtimes. Then once you have a bunch of apps you’ll end up with different versions needing different runtimes which will need constant updates of the same 1G. Given modern connectivity and storage it isn’t that burdensome in truth but neither is the Windows example.

              It’s just humorous to crow over one and ignore the other.

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        Does it still allow macros? I have a couple of 502s and my older one has fallen victim to the common problem of rhe switch getting bouncey so one click becomes multiple. Supposedly macros can fix this.

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          I’m never buying another Logitech device again because that problem that happened with my G7 back in the 00s still happened with my G900 in the 20s.

          With my G7, I’d open it up when it started happening, and open up the switch to re-bend the metal piece to give it some spring back. Kept doing this until one day the plastic button that presses down on that metal part fell on carpet and was gone forever.

          With my G900, I said fuck it and just bought some better mouse button switches and replaced the left mouse button. Was actually kinda glad I needed to because the battery had become a danger pillow so I replaced that, too.

          But with the button issue existing for so long and being fixed by a part that cost a trivial amount compared to what I paid in the first place, you can’t convince me that Logitech isn’t deliberately using switches that fail quickly to drive up demand for mice.

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          If your mouse drivers allow setting the debounce timer, you can set it higher so that your system doesn’t allow the bouncing to register.

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          This is a physical defect. Macros make one key press effect one or more action button or key press. For instance if a common operation involves pressing a b and c in sequence you can make one button on your mouse actuate that sequence.

          You can’t bind a macro to left click because then you can’t left click anymore. Even if you bound double clicking to single click (if this is even possible) it would mean every time it single click you would effect nothing which is equally if not more broken.

          You need to either take your mouse apart and fix it or throw it in the trash.

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    +1 for using space sniffer. It’s the best of such apps I’ve found. Unfortunately doesn’t seem to get updated any more.

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    We detected you moved your mouse. Downloading 1GB of AI telemetry and 3GB of user experience optimizations…

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      You can configure you mouse to press a button and it brings up a prompt where you can type an AI query in there.

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      To better know everything you do and train it on AI. i mean, To improve Productivity and convenience.

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    The driver itself is probably a few megabytes only. The rest is just bullshit in the name of rgb control and preset/dpi control. You seem to be using a Logitech device, you can enable the onboard memory of your mouse, then uninstall this thing and use Logitech’s Onboard Memory Manager app instead.

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    That’s not the driver but some bundled configuration & update bloatware.

    Back in my days, you had to overwrite some .exe with a “0” to disable Nvidia from spying on you. The overwrite, because they would just download it again if you deleted the .exe.

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      I remember installing a fresh PC with win98. During installation, I disabled some windows bloatware (Imagine! You actually could do this!), and ended up with an unresponsive, non-windows app blocking the system. I killed that app and removed it from the system. Keep in mind that at this point, no network connection was set up, nor did I install any driver or program yet, this was straight from the windows install medium.

      After reboot, the app was back, and again blocking the system.

      Wiping the harddisk and starting installation over did not help either.

      Turned out this was some bloatware installed by the BIOS whenever it detected at boot that there was a) a Windows installation that was b) “missing” their “register your PC with us” app. This needed some Windows bloatware to work, and thus failed on this machine.

      This was the only time I angrily screamed at a hotline worker.

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    holy fucking shit. I once programmed a mouse driver for an 8 bit computer with 32kb of ram. I don’t remember the exact size of the compiled driver but it was under 1kb.

    Today’s tech companies probably couldn’t even figure out a way to make a hello world in python without it needing 100gb of storage, an Intel Core9/AMD Ryzen 7000 or better, an internet connection and an online user account.

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      The actual driver for an HID USB device, even on WIndows, is still just a few KB.

      Worse, the default driver for HID devices like mice, keyboards, joysticks, gamepads and so on is part of Windows since Windows 7 and all you had to do was give it an INF file that really just associated USB hardware devices that sent the PC a specific identifier (made up of a VID and a PID value) on USB protocol initialization, with that built-in driver - and that file is maybe 100 bytes. Even better, that INF file is not even needed anymore since Windows 10.

      A driver for a mouse (pretty much the simplest Human Interface Device there is) that in addition to the normal mouse thing also supports setting the RGB color of some lights is stupidly simple because the needed functionality is already in the protocol.

      Remember, modern digital electronics still uses really tiny processors sometimes with less than 32KB flash memory (and way less than that in RAM) only they’re microcontrollers rather than microprocessors now, hence the protocols are designed so that they can be handled by processing hardware with little memory (after all, many USB Hosts aren’t PCs but instead are things like USB HUDs which have microcontrollers not microprocessors)

      I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that almost the entirety of that 1GB is bloatware.

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      Maybe a Docker or two, perhaps a VM in the cloud. Is that still hip with the kids?