• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Higher Income people actually prefer the Socialist lmfao

    Its somehow the poor people that get gaslighted into voting for conservatism

    Ironic

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      2 months ago

      I imagine the difference in the cost of living between NYC and upstate New York compensates for that? Median income alone isn’t a super useful metric

      • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        I think you’re a little confused.

        NYC = New York City

        This is a Mayoral Primary Election. Every voter here is a resident of New York City

        Mayor = Leader of the Executive Branch of a city.

        For NY State, the Leader of the Executive Branch would be called the Governor

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    They don’t believe anyone under a certain income pays taxes. “Taxpayer” just means “upper income tax bracket” in their mind.

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      2 months ago

      Euphemisms like that and “job creators”, “wealth creators” are an instant tip-off that whoever’s talking is a weaselly venal slimeball.

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        2 months ago

        You’re right, but people over a certain tax bracket are also pretty good at not paying taxes.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there’s also fees to use government services. That’s all taxes.

        But there’s this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don’t contribute to society, and so they don’t think any of that counts.

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            2 months ago

            taxes the government steals from us

            No it’s not the government that is stealing from us its the Uber wealthy that use our tax money (that should be going to the greater good of the citizens of the country) for their own gain.

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            2 months ago

            The poor pay the largest portion of their wages in taxes. They also benefit society far beyond any other social group. It’s the wealthy that take the most from the rest of us and pay almost nothing back.

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            Right, that’s the point of the “taxpayer” dog whistle. It trains people to think that poor people don’t pay taxes, and implies they’re lesser members of society because of it.

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          They’re just stupid and meant folks who make millions and billions don’t pay their share of taxes

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        Even if you discount all other forms of taxation, and only focus on income taxes, the sentiment is irrelevant to this particular vote.

        His support appears to be concentrated in the middle class. (Median household income in NYC is about 80k, right about the peak of his vote share)

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        Okay, they “don’t pay taxes”, but the government still takes the money and then returns it if they ask for it (i.e. file a tax return). That isn’t quite the same as not paying.

        Also, you have to be stupidly poor to get all of your taxes returned.

    • Soup@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Oddly enough, when it comes to less dense suburbs with richer people in them, the cost to the city is always more than those people pay in taxes. They pay more but they’re actually using poorer people’s taxes to pay for their shitty “neighbourhoods”, in quotes because the word implies a level of community they could only dream of.

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    2 months ago

    “The media” love nothing more than to find the absolute most disgusting scum in our country and interview them for their opinions…

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      2 months ago

      Outrage generates clicks, clicks generate revenue.
      We’re both here because we’re disgusted by the headline so it obviously works.

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        2 months ago

        While generally true, I think “the media” does what I mentioned in order to “manufacture consent” in cases like this. They want to create the image of what is “real” and what “people you should believe” think. God forbid you should think for yourself and agree with a spooky spooky socialist, no no we need to make you afraid of him! We need you to believe that only “freeloaders” vote for him and “real taxpayers” will be hurt by him!

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    2 months ago

    I am tired of the boomer narrative of that it’s always those “young people” ruining everything. Oldest millennials are now in their mid-40’s. Or even worse, the youngest gen-z people are almost 18 now. These people have been paying their taxes for years on end now.

    The only terrified people in this scenario are the literal parasites who don’t pay anything, through loopholes and theft

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      Yep it is so stupid everyone blaming the boomers when they are no longer the largest voting block. But millennials are, also nobody wants to admit young people are stupid also.

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        No, boomers are responsible for the mess of crap we’ve found ourselves in. That’s why people blame them for it. They voted for “i got mine, and pulled the ladders up that helped them build their wealth and education”. That’s why we blame them for shit still.

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          The issue now though is that none of the politicians, talking heads, radical fascist right wing influences are boomers. Some are X, most are Millennials. This could have been turned around according to those who insisted that “all this will.die off with the Boomers!” for the past 20 years but NO, we became even MORE radically fascist and racist.

          The generation divide is silly because it isnt fucking true…not int the least.

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            No, its the boomers still. They created the news networks like Fox News, turned the internet into the cess pool that it is, and drove all of the propaganda that has turned millennial and gen X people into frothing right-wing nut jobs. Maybe in ten years, we can stop saying its the boomers. But they have single handedly been responsible for all of the shit we find ourselves in, the housing bubbles, the student loan crisis, everything. I’ll stop saying its the boomers when its no longer a problem of their generations making.

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              2 months ago

              And when younger generations continue the same program?

              Absolving them of responsibility is highly irresponsible.

              You wanna know who to actually blame?:

              these guys

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        Boomers were responsible for Reagan and Citizens United, you could maybe blame Gen X for Bush and Trump but definitely can’t blame Millennials on that.

        In fact, Millennials were even more progressive aligned than Gen Z in the last election, with a -16 point shift between Biden and Harris. A lot of outlets are reporting a large Gen Z specific move to the right as they added 8 Million more voters to the pool in 2024, although take that claim with a grain of salt because the only data I could find on it was the 18-44 age group.

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          These comments are a shitshow. It has become not only acceptable, but the norm, to counter common sense argument with “your mom”.

          Idiocracy was supposed to be a satire, we were supposed to be smart and educated, the kind of people that can’t be easily fooled. Every day we return to monke a bit more.

  • AoteroaHeritage@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    WANTED: KATHY WYLDE

    For contributing to social murder, ideologically justifying excess deaths among the lower classes in order to keep the upper class hierarchy.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Mamdani’s ideological approach may terrify some employers… the ones that are currently massively dodging taxes, paying way, way lower taxes, getting all kinds of tax exemptions and deductions, getting all kinds of no strings attached subsidies… from actual taxpayers.

    The idiot capital class is obviously propogandizing in overdrive mode, but they also seem to be largely legitimately delusional about realizing how astonishingly subsidized they are by public financing, so that they can concentrate private profits.

    ‘But it would be impossible to run my business without training wheels and floaties and a helmet all provided to me by the government!!!’

    Ok fuckstick, don’t care, sounds like a skill issue to me if you can’t main as a capitalist without a bunch of handicaps on, either get gud or stop pretending you deserve your spot on the ‘free market’ league leaderboard.

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        one who likes living in a world with… things… in it

        what you’re talking about is people who treat capitalism as a fucking religion, who think the only point to life is to make number go up.

        A sane “capitalist” will realize that it should be a means to an end, that the actual goal is to make life nice, so it only make sense to apply capitalist practices up to the point where it causes harm.
        Like, what are you going to do with billions of dollars if there’s no one to maintain the roads and airports and railways? What joy would you experience on a wasteland planet with no pretty nature and human culture?

        Think of an old-timey shopkeep for example, sure they operate under capitalism, but they still want to fucking talk to their customers and be part of the community, and they’ll give kids some extra candy for free because they can trivially afford to do so and it brings them joy to see happy kids, plus those kids will then grow up and remember how ol’ shopkeep Williams was nice to them and they’ll help him out in his twilight years.

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    “employers and taxpayers” is like “job creators”.

    They don’t want to say “the ultra wealthy” because that would be too accurate for the owner of the site, who is an ultra wealthy person.

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    This is not specific to this post but can we please not hype the guy up too much before we see what he actually does when in office? From all the news coverage I’m getting a ‘He is the Messiah! We are rescued!’ vibe. He may still bend the knee to the rich once he has power.