• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Mamdani’s ideological approach may terrify some employers… the ones that are currently massively dodging taxes, paying way, way lower taxes, getting all kinds of tax exemptions and deductions, getting all kinds of no strings attached subsidies… from actual taxpayers.

    The idiot capital class is obviously propogandizing in overdrive mode, but they also seem to be largely legitimately delusional about realizing how astonishingly subsidized they are by public financing, so that they can concentrate private profits.

    ‘But it would be impossible to run my business without training wheels and floaties and a helmet all provided to me by the government!!!’

    Ok fuckstick, don’t care, sounds like a skill issue to me if you can’t main as a capitalist without a bunch of handicaps on, either get gud or stop pretending you deserve your spot on the ‘free market’ league leaderboard.

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        one who likes living in a world with… things… in it

        what you’re talking about is people who treat capitalism as a fucking religion, who think the only point to life is to make number go up.

        A sane “capitalist” will realize that it should be a means to an end, that the actual goal is to make life nice, so it only make sense to apply capitalist practices up to the point where it causes harm.
        Like, what are you going to do with billions of dollars if there’s no one to maintain the roads and airports and railways? What joy would you experience on a wasteland planet with no pretty nature and human culture?

        Think of an old-timey shopkeep for example, sure they operate under capitalism, but they still want to fucking talk to their customers and be part of the community, and they’ll give kids some extra candy for free because they can trivially afford to do so and it brings them joy to see happy kids, plus those kids will then grow up and remember how ol’ shopkeep Williams was nice to them and they’ll help him out in his twilight years.

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    4 days ago

    Higher Income people actually prefer the Socialist lmfao

    Its somehow the poor people that get gaslighted into voting for conservatism

    Ironic

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      4 days ago

      I imagine the difference in the cost of living between NYC and upstate New York compensates for that? Median income alone isn’t a super useful metric

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        I think you’re a little confused.

        NYC = New York City

        This is a Mayoral Primary Election. Every voter here is a resident of New York City

        Mayor = Leader of the Executive Branch of a city.

        For NY State, the Leader of the Executive Branch would be called the Governor

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    4 days ago

    This is not specific to this post but can we please not hype the guy up too much before we see what he actually does when in office? From all the news coverage I’m getting a ‘He is the Messiah! We are rescued!’ vibe. He may still bend the knee to the rich once he has power.

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    imho that’s what connects all the right, from finance bros to masculinists to racists : they’re terrified. Of change, of difference. Of others. They’re deathly afraid and it explains every action they take, every word they say.

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      It’s worse than that. I’m affraid of these things sometimes too. They are affraid of being affraid. They can’t handle it, they can’t admit it and they do everything ti disguise it. It’s a very primal emotion

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    the scariest part about tax the millionaires policies for millionaires is that we did it in massachusetts and the outcome was that it worked and raised billions for the state

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    4 days ago

    This is very Boomers thinking everyone is still a 16 year old Millennial.

    Boomer brains stuck in 1998, and it shows.

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    4 days ago

    They don’t believe anyone under a certain income pays taxes. “Taxpayer” just means “upper income tax bracket” in their mind.

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      Euphemisms like that and “job creators”, “wealth creators” are an instant tip-off that whoever’s talking is a weaselly venal slimeball.

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      Oddly enough, when it comes to less dense suburbs with richer people in them, the cost to the city is always more than those people pay in taxes. They pay more but they’re actually using poorer people’s taxes to pay for their shitty “neighbourhoods”, in quotes because the word implies a level of community they could only dream of.

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        Okay, they “don’t pay taxes”, but the government still takes the money and then returns it if they ask for it (i.e. file a tax return). That isn’t quite the same as not paying.

        Also, you have to be stupidly poor to get all of your taxes returned.

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        4 days ago

        Even if you discount all other forms of taxation, and only focus on income taxes, the sentiment is irrelevant to this particular vote.

        His support appears to be concentrated in the middle class. (Median household income in NYC is about 80k, right about the peak of his vote share)

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        4 days ago

        You’re right, but people over a certain tax bracket are also pretty good at not paying taxes.

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        They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there’s also fees to use government services. That’s all taxes.

        But there’s this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don’t contribute to society, and so they don’t think any of that counts.

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          They’re just stupid and meant folks who make millions and billions don’t pay their share of taxes

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            The poor pay the largest portion of their wages in taxes. They also benefit society far beyond any other social group. It’s the wealthy that take the most from the rest of us and pay almost nothing back.

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            4 days ago

            taxes the government steals from us

            No it’s not the government that is stealing from us its the Uber wealthy that use our tax money (that should be going to the greater good of the citizens of the country) for their own gain.

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            Right, that’s the point of the “taxpayer” dog whistle. It trains people to think that poor people don’t pay taxes, and implies they’re lesser members of society because of it.

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    “employers and taxpayers” is like “job creators”.

    They don’t want to say “the ultra wealthy” because that would be too accurate for the owner of the site, who is an ultra wealthy person.

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    “The media” love nothing more than to find the absolute most disgusting scum in our country and interview them for their opinions…

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      Outrage generates clicks, clicks generate revenue.
      We’re both here because we’re disgusted by the headline so it obviously works.

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        While generally true, I think “the media” does what I mentioned in order to “manufacture consent” in cases like this. They want to create the image of what is “real” and what “people you should believe” think. God forbid you should think for yourself and agree with a spooky spooky socialist, no no we need to make you afraid of him! We need you to believe that only “freeloaders” vote for him and “real taxpayers” will be hurt by him!

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    WANTED: KATHY WYLDE

    For contributing to social murder, ideologically justifying excess deaths among the lower classes in order to keep the upper class hierarchy.