Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.
Fuck you Disney
Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.
Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them
Well, now they’re openly hostile instead.
This one’s my favorite
See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate “Woke Things”
Because 7 out of 10 times, they’re just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to “t3h gays”, but for some reason believe that “t3h gays” asked for it, when in reality we did not… the other 3 times nothing’s wrong and “Woke” is just code for “There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist… Which I am”
its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it, but the cons that never watches these have been calling it woke. a great example is STD discovery, such a bad show, but everyone has been pointing how the female leads are boring asfm Kurtzman having an obssesion with pushing it for some reason.
Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.
The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.
(Actual inquiry, I don’t know): Really? There is no rupture or some sort of apocalyse in the new testament?
That’s what the heritage Foundation is trying to achieve, yes. Trump is playing the part of the antichrist, musk is the beast. I’m mostly concerned about how they interpret “lake of fire”.
Nah, the thing that Christians claim is the antichrist was the description of Nero.
I feel that Mango Mussolini is very Nero-like… so does that count for anything?
As someone that doesn’t belive in the bible, the whole antichrist being nero thing doesn’t add up. Nero reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD while the book of revelation, the one with the antichrist prophecies and that was published in 95 AD. I’ve heard the explanation that it was code, but why would they have to have code for someone that died 27 years before they wrote the code?
The word antichrist isnt meantioned in the bible, only John does mention it.
The gnostic nag hamadi also mentions the antichrist and that was written at least the 2nd century. Interestingly they say the antichrist will have a female likeness which makes sense if you entertain it because if the antichrist is meant to be the complete opposite of christ, why wouldn’t they identify as female?
68 AD to 95ad is 27 years why would you count from the start.
Because math is hard. Fixed it though and point still stands.
Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.
It’ll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like
- Luke 16:13 “You cannot serve both God and money.”
- Mark 10:21 “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor”
- Matthew 5:39 “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”
- Matthew 5:44 “love your enemies”
So there’s no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?
One of my personal favorites:
- Luke 12:46-48:
46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to “love your enemies,” but clearly people you own don’t deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.
The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include’s Paul’s further interpretation of Jesus’ teachings on slaves in…
- Ephesians 6:5–8:
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
Oof.
Do you think that Christianity became the religion of imperialism out of coincidence?
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them.
That passage you quoted is not giving guidelines on how to treat slaves, it is a parable using slaves as an example. Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery, the second passage being pretty disgusting.
All he had to do was say, “don’t own people,” and yet…
Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery,
The Bible is explicitly pro-slavery. It was literally used by slavers in the 19th century American South to justify and continue the practice of chattal slavery. They printed “slave Bibles” where all mentions of anything related to “freedom” were removed, and the focus was on teaching obedience and submission.
What a thing for an “all-powerful” god to facilitate. Even if he were real and simply allowed his holy book to be used for such an evil purpose is enough for me to say “yeah, no thanks.”
Well now I can say Disney is woke. They woke up to kiss the ring and bow down to a fucking shit lip.
I wonder how China will react. Plus for them: no trans character. Minus for them: replaced with Christian insurgent.
Shit, I hadn’t even considered that US/Russia/China censorship goals align so well.
Authoritarians love cracking down on minorities.
If China just goes pro LGBT, it’ll be a clear sign that despite China being China, it might be time to move to China.
That to me would be a predecessor of brain drain.
Smart people are kinky af.
“If only the oppressive government in a foreign country would stop oppressing my minority it would be a safe indicator to move there on a large scale, surely they would welcome outsiders raised on a western mindset into their homogenous society”
Who said I was LGBT?
Disus Christ enters chat - because Disney and Jesus are now brothers.
This headline might as well be from The Babylon Bee.
Well I did feel bad about pirating Agatha All Along but not anymore.
Never feel bad about pirating, son!
son
Come on 😮💨
She’s very obviously a woman, don’t call her “son.”
Why tf am I getting downvoted? What’s wrong with people?
I mean I know a dude whose initials are KD[last initial]. He doesn’t like his feminine first name, so he started going by Katie. KD. He just can’t win.
Yes, but you can clearly see a woman in her profile pic, combined with a girl’s name, on a trans instance, and if any of that gives you pause enough to check her profile, you’ll find it says, “sapphic. hater of capital letters. bunny and cat mum.” Just because some random guy somewhere goes by KD does not make it ok to misgender someone who is very obviously a woman.
Whoever downvoted this, come out and say it my face, coward. Fuck transphobes.
lol… you really need to pick a better hill to die on than this- “who downvoted me?! My words need to be respected!” crap. I downvote you all the time when I see you trying to get under people’s skin- which is more frequent than when you’re not.
You aggressively argue with people and refuse to accept that others see the word differently than you do. And both your modlog and your comment history proves this.
How do you see the world differently to them? Go ahead, say it
How?
Let’s see… I don’t throw temper tantrums when people downvote me. That’s one difference. I also don’t give a shit what people online think about me enough to whine that people disagreeing with me. And lastly, there’s little I find less important than what method someone uses to type shit on an Internet forum.
I can’t recall ever seeing a single profile pic on Lemmy. Even when clicking on a username, all I see are posts, no profile. I honestly didn’t even know there was a profile to edit. I’m primarily on Voyager.
No downvotes from me; just adding my experience to the conversation.
Most apps don’t show profile pics unless you actually go to the profile.
Then, genuine question, why do you use them?
Why is it your business what they use?
Because I don’t care about your profile picture.
Anyone browsing on most mobile Lemmy apps does not see profile pics btw, so people might be downvoting because “she’s very obviously a woman” is in fact not at all obvious to mobile users.
I did not downvote btw. Am using Eternity Lemmy client.
There’s still the username. And the proper response to that situation is, “Oh, oops, I didn’t realize, let me edit my comment, thanks for bringing it to my attention.”
If I can figure out a way to view who downvoted, I will be tagging them to call them out and name and shame. I find it completely inexcusable. If they didn’t know they were in the wrong, they wouldn’t be afraid to show their faces and explain themselves.
I did vot you down and I’m also the guy who started all this.
You’re not wrong. You’re just an asshole. That’s why people vote you down.
I really want to down vote you because of your aggressiveness and off topic ranting but I’ll ask instead what about their username should tell me the user’s gender?
I downvoted you. It’s because you don’t know how to discuss topics like an adult without arrogantly insulting people.
News flash: Despite what you seem to think- no one here is beneath you. You’re just a random person on the internet- just like everyone else.
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I hope this means that they have canceled the Snow White movie.
Nah, they just made her whiter and the dwarves a white supremacist survivalist militia.
I mean, my sister killed that movie for me when I was a kid, just like Little Mermaid.
But now that I have a choice, I choose not to watch those movies.
But if you want to change a German folklore story that was written in 1812 with a bunch of stupid ideologies, you can watch it all you want lol
*Disnep
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Wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump administration threatened Disney into ditching it.
Let’s be real no threat is needed. If this made them win craploads of money they would be plastering Disney world with transexual parades every second of the day
The fact that they are not doing it says a lot
This is the first openly Christian character to feature in a Disney film since 2007’s Bridge to Terabithia.
So it’s not really the first then, is it?
An exclusive poll for Newsweek conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies in July found that 34 percent of viewers disapproved of Disney’s attempt to add more LGBTQ+ topics to its content.
This I never understand. If Disney is a for profit company, why would they not listen to their majority? Aren’t they leaving money on the table like this? “Well, because of Trump.” Yeah but how does that matter, specifically? (The article does not go in to detail about that) Is Trump going to compensate them for it??
This article isn’t very well written. Many such cases, sadly.
Note your comment states 34 percent disagree, but didn’t state how many didn’t care one way or the other, or rate the relative likelihood of spending money or refusing to based on the stance.
The snowflake conservatives may be more likely to get offended and boycott. It may be that 50 percent didn’t care either way, so the trade off becomes 34 versus 16 percent. I suppose from another comment it seems like their poll returned approximately 1/3rd disliked, 1/3rd wanted, and 1/3rd didn’t care. So they can probably have their cake and eat it too by waffling a bit on the issue to have both sides buying up their preferred content to “prove” to Disney the right way to go, even if they boycott the current “wrong” mindset, they may want to spend on their favored content to steer things. But those thirds still don’t reflect the nuance of how much they like/dislike to know if liking LGBT inclusion is a “good on them, even though I’m not that personally invested” or more “I will not give them a dime if they don’t have inclusion”.
Of course they may also be concerned about their place in a potential authoritarian state and aligning themselves is a way to avoid being a target. If after all of the doom and gloom turn out to be wrong and progressives come back in a few years, then they just have to have their logo be rainbow colored for a bit and have a few progressive characters and all will be forgiven.
The majority doesn’t approve of more LGBT characters either, it’s just Newsweek being intentionally misleading.
In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn’t know how they felt.
I’d venture the majority of people prefer a good story. When you shoehorn any elements into a story it distracts the audience. The Star Trek Beyond Lt Sulu scene is a good example it did not provide any character or story development. Many of the star wars shows have similar elements which hurt an all ready damaged story.
because maga voters are more likely to send bomb threats
Isn’t Captain America Christian too? Like, he openly says there’s only one God, he goes to church etc.
It could be seen as a product of his time (the 1940s).
Agent Coulson says something like that too, I believe
“Openly” as if Christians aren’t the dominant cultural and political group in the USA
I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends
Yeah, “demonstrably” or “obnoxiously” would probably be much more accurate…
Does this Christian character get made fun of all the time for being out of touch with reality? Is this why Kathleen is out, too much jesus? lol, probably not.
I am curious as to which flavor of Christianity they are portraying 🤔
The hypocritical one. Oh, wait…
Southern Baptist
(Joking I don’t know)
Supply side Jesus, presumably.
Is being inclusive of people with cognitive reasoning disabilities a bad thing?
