The attack on the 50-year-old executive—allegedly by the now 27-year-old Luigi Mangione—immediately sparked an outpouring of public fury not at the gunman, but at UnitedHealthcare itself.
Luigi allegedly killed one man
United Health kills thousands on a regular basis
EDIT: … thanks for the clarification (I’ll remember it from now on)
Luigi has yet to be convicted of anything, but the sentiment remains.
That’s even better
Luigi allegedly killed one man
United Health most definitely kills thousands on a regular basis as a matter of company savings and profits
I should additionally mention that I find the evidence that has been publicized so far has not convinced me they even have the right fucking guy
I don’t think feds have not even turned it over to defense? Haven’t checked recently. But that’s a huge red flag. What happened with that chain of custody daddy?
The nose is the wrong shape
Have they tried not being evil by design?
BUT THE SHAREHOLDERS! /s
Literally. They got sued over it.
We tried being more evil, and when that didn’t work, we doubled down. We dont know why it isn’t working.
- UnitedHealthCare
Yes, but the profit growth rate decreased marginally, which was deemed absolutely unacceptable.
They tried being slightly less evil and their shareholders sued them.
Let’s not mess with Costco and costplusdrug please. Not all ceo are bad.
“if you raise the price of the hot dog, I will fucking kill you.”
The hot dog is a loss leader. They want you paying your membership fees, and that hot dog keeps you paying. While you’re paying, you probably also shovel a ton of money into the store buying all sorts of stuff. It may be a good deal for you, but it’s a fantastic deal for costco.
The idea is that companies should pursue profit, but not if the full fucking you without lube sense. Costco of course seeks to be profitable, but it has an “ethical” limit about to do so without harming the customers too much
Damn, now I really want a costco hot dog.
Technically, you don’t need a membership for the food court, pharmacy, or to purchase alcohol, but the loss leader point still stands… Also the fact that we’re talking about it now proves that it works.
No membership required for costco’s food court.
That’s changing now
Costco CEO is already covered as soon as they raise the price of the hot dog combo.
Incorrect, they’re just temporarily not as bad as they could be.
Googles motto was “don’t be evil” they silently retired it as soon as it suited them to be evil.
Let’s hope for the best!!
This is how they learn! Operant* Conditioning.
Lol what? No good CEO is good enough.
Typical
No im a proud tankie triad commie who flunked out of middle school and cant keep a job for more than a month. Everyone who has subordinates or wears glasses is the opressor.
The shooting “tarnished UnitedHealthcare’s reputation and disrupted its operational stability,” Ge Bai, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Maryland, told Newsweek.
No, it did not, don’t pin that one on Luigi.
UnitedHealthcare did that all on their lonesome, by profiteering on people’s pain and suffering.
“In a statement today, interim CEO of Cockroach Inc. expressed extreme displeasure that Luigi shined a light on their roaches nest for others to see.”
The shooting helped people realise just how united they are in their justified anger
This! The shooting allowed people to start counting themselves, and it looks like UH haters are a much bigger crowd than shareholders.
Great news and this comment would get me banned elsewhere and that’s why I am here .
reddit would most likely ban you, due to 2 layers of filtering system, sitewide and subreddit filters.
I’m pretty sure lemmy.world will ban you for “promoting violence”, but it probably varies by community.
Reddit or Lemmy. World?
Considering this is a Lemmy world post, I would say reddit
This isn’t one of the tankie Instances right?? I’m on the world one as well
Nope, violent zionists, boot lickers, and neck beards, like normal reddit.
Maybe 50% less open about it
Tankies are lemmygrad and .ml, to a less serious about themselves extent; hexbear.
The important thing is the friends we make along the way.
Oh. Shit. I guess my life is hollow and meaningless, then.
{sotto voce} pssst: Everyone’s is. Some just don’t realise it.
Lemmy.world is meant to be a general, politically neutral instance. It’s not unmoderated but it’s not using its moderation policy to silence opposition like Reddit or Lemmy.ml
I don’t think you can be mad at a site that explicitly tries to be for the mainstream for holding mainstream positions like being pro-Israel or pro-Capitalism
meant to be
Theory rarely lives up to real world implementation
neutral
No such thing does or can exist on the scale of generality you’re discussingwho are you accommodating, what do you actually mean? Neutral to whom? Don’t say “everybody”; that would be a lie.
does not use its moderation policy to silence opposition
Opposition to what? You’re giving me glimpses of a position here, saying you have one, and denying you have one.
for the mainstream holding mainstream positions
Okay that’s not “neutral” that’s “popular”. These are not remotely the same word. Please be more careful with your use of language in the future.
such as being pro israel
Which isn’t popular, it’s astroturfed. Not the same.
and pro capitalism
So, that hasn’t been genuinely popular in a while, we just cant agree what to do about it.
Neutral in its moderation policy. They don’t remove posts, communities, or comments based off of ideology. Conservative, liberal, and left wingers all post here.
Opposition as in silencing the opposition to the beliefs of the admin/moderation team. Such as lemmy.ml removing comments for being pro-capitalism or anti-CCP or Reddit shadow banning anti-ai, anti-spez, or anti-capitalism, or a number of other topics that end with people being shadow banned. Lemmy.world isn’t perfect in its moderation but when it does mess up, !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com is there to call them out.
Being pro-Israel is not that same as approving their actions in Gaza. Being pro-genocide is not popular but being pro-Israel is and has been for the last 60 years. It wasn’t until the war in Gaza that Israel had net negative favorability 1
Only on left-wing echo chambers is capitalism not popular. Yes people want reform and so capitalism doesn’t poll as well as it used to in favorability but Americans are still overwhelmingly for capitalism 2
Maybe things are different in Europe, I can’t say. I don’t live there.
Not trying to be a nerd, citing sources and saying “uhm actually” I just very much enjoy, Lemmy, Lemmy.world, and the posters of Lemmy.ml, I just don’t care for Reddit or the admins of .ml, grad, or hexbear.
Sorry for being vague. I meant specific places like news and politics on there. Those mods censored pro Luigi sentiment after the ceo got blessed.
Mods blamed admins and “law” but funny enough the main luigi is on that server also!
So mods are just lying sacks of shit and that shill regime propaganda.
I will never forget Jordan Lund sliding into another in related community where luigi discussion was happening and letting everyone know that he monitoring it. He was not a mod for the community. JFC 🤡
The banhammer is a disagree button.
.world is fine as long as you know how to speak in plausible deniability.
I don’t give a single shit about the welfare or public approval of any large profit corporation. I care even less about UHC specifically.
Anyone who still works there is complicit. The entire health insurance industry needs to be taken down and everyone involved shunned from society forever. It’s an atrocity.
Hey, where do you work? - Oh I work in the health insurance industry - That’s disgusting, I am leaving.
Plenty of people join a system to try and improve it, even if that’s naive.
Job market is crap right now, but anyone who feels like a cog should probably be spamming out job apps, yeah.
Either way, I can guarantee that there are a lot of employees in the company that would love to change it from the inside.
I can also guarantee that a good chunk of the company is offshore and probably doesn’t care as much about how it’s impacting the USA.
It sounds like you do care ❤️
However, while it’s understandable for consumers to get angry at their health insurers, it is also important to remember “there is no easy answer” for such companies as they navigate costs and care, Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek.
There is a very easy answer. Eliminate the health insurance companies. They do not improve healthcare and serve only to increase costs by extracting profit.
The profit motive does not belong in any industry of necessity.
The capitalists have metastasized into education, Healthcare, and bastardized any and all forms of food to maximize profit at the expense of their humanity.
They’ve brought us to our knees, and before the capitalists are done, death will be a mercy to most.
Education in the US was at its height when it received ample public funding.
death will be a mercy to most.
In the future, it will be a privilege to die, at least the way this train currently going
They are a wholly unnecessary middleman extracting a rent where none is due. They slow down the speed of care and needlessly complicate a very simple system.
It should not exist. They’re the landlords of medicine. Entirely pointless and nothing more than a detriment to the profession, service, and function of healthcare no matter if its picking up a z-pack for bronchitis or having a tumor removed. Healthcare insurance serves no purpose whatsoever.
A single, (truly) non profit insurer that has no ability to deny coverage and is fully funded by income tax could have an administrative purpose.
I’m not a specialist of the US healthcare problem but if we believe Marc Cuban, insurance is not the biggest cost problem.
[Masters of Scale] Rapid Response: How Cost Plus Drugs is revolutionizing pharma, with CEO Alex Oshmyansky #mastersOfScale https://podcastaddict.com/masters-of-scale/episode/187310275 via @PodcastAddict
Luigi offers an easy answer
The United Healthcare AI that killed your grandmother and mine is still at large.
We can talk about Luigi’s alleged crime once this systemic violence is deposed.
AI is just like the “illegals” that “stole” your job. Profits dictated that the company hire someone for much less than you. AI didn’t invent itself to steal your job. AI didn’t wake up and decide it’s gonna let Grandma die in the nursing home. The company let AI do it, set the guidelines in which AI would come to that conclusion and ultimately pointed AI at every customer and hit the on button.
Please don’t manufacture this as an AI crisis. It’s a healthcare crisis caused by greedy people. End of story.
Fair point. AI is a tool.
In the hands of Anarchists, we could use AI to make Salvador Allende’s CyberSyn dream come true, even without a State.
And in the hands of Capitalists, it is a tool for mass murder. That doesn’t absolve the murderers. It condemns them all the more for their lack of imagination, their inability to see beyond their quarterly profits.
They’re struggling to get over their own policies which were already unpopular but did serious damage once people discussed how crappy those policies were. Luigi was the spark. They built the house of match sticks and poured gasoline on it.
UHC also one of the worst Healthcare insurance out there, im guessing the news is bringing too much attention to them.
I’d never heard of UHC until the CEO dropped dead and it got blamed on St. Luigi, who I still assert is a legitimate religious figure.
my parents plan uses OPtumhealth for prescriptions, which is under UHC umbrella. then we found out who WITTY was the big man in chage of UHG, thompson was just his underling. he was the fool that was doubling down in the news right after brian got shot.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
This is the way. We’ve been in a class war for a generation, and we’ve been losing without even fighting back. Past time for that to change.
Fucking excellent. Hope we see a hundred more Luigi’s.
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I think a lot about a post I read that said something like “You hate every piece of capitalism, but you won’t connect the dots to see the big picture.”
People want to blame the queers or the blacks or the muslims or whatever, but it’s the capitalist class that’s shitting up the world. That’s why everything’s expensive and shitty, the environment is collapsing, everyone’s stressed and can’t get enough sleep.
The system is absolutely the problem and I know just shooting CEOs isn’t going to solve it, but it is mildly therapeutic to see them get some shit their way.
If they happen, the media will never let us see them. Just assume it’s happening and we’re all fed up with this shit.
Maybe they are happening and we don’t hear
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/employee-charged-killing-of-trucking-ceo-crestwood/
There are these blips but none of them really match the impact we got here. Maybe they learned to play them down, maybe the story as compelling.
The United Healthcare incident has the same vibe as Occupy Wall Street. That makes rich people very nervous.
Whilst, I understand your emotion. Always remember violence is never the answer. While, I agree one of the consequences of consensus based discussion is giving idiots a voice but by doing so is the only way forward.
You would let nazi Germany take over the world instead of going to war, because violence is never the answer?
Violence is absolutely the fucking answer sometimes.
Every right, legal or even just societal, that you have, down to fucking weekends and 40 hour work weeks existing as a concept, is because people less cowardly than you were willing to fight for them. Not fight with protest signs and stern facial expressions, but literal fights to the death. Like unions in shoot outs against the national guard kind of fights. Your platitudes are the result of brainwashing from an education system that intentionally leaves out the most important parts of history to convince us never to use the only tool that’s ever worked.
1st, Luigi didn’t do it.
2nd, when was Brian Thompson’s killer the CEO of United…?
This Luigi didn’t do it thing is so odd, and yes I’ve seen the photos, you would be amazed at how body hairs vanish depending on camera type, lighting and resolution.
I for one am of the proud opinion that Luigi did it and he’s a god damn hero for it. He did it and praise be to Luigi, i wish more of us had his courage
Makes a ghost gun. Keeps it, doesn’t dispose of it. Walks around in public with said gun on his person, as well as a “manifesto.” Gets “caught” because of his fake id that a McDonald’s cashier clocked.
Yeah. He totally did it.
Also, a guy with really severe back pain is totally going to ride a Citibike on NYC potholed streets.
Right? Thinking Luigi is guilty is basically the irl version of “Aurora Borealis, at this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen!?”
McDonald’s checks ID? What?
No. They don’t. See how the official “story” holds up to the most minor of examination?
The story has changed a couple times, but I thought it was always about an employee or a customer calling it in because they recognized him, or he was acting shady. Then the cops come and he gives them a fake ID that matches the one of the hostel person.
They originally said they saw the fake id on the table, alongside the manifesto. Idk about you, but i can totally make out the text of an id on a table using peripheral vision as i pass.
And that is totally what I do when I eat at McDonalds: I whip out my manifesto and my fake ID and put it on the table.
You have a source on that? Because that is NOT how I remember things being reported.
Now that you bring it up, they probably should make you sign some sort of medical consent form before you consume their awful food.
History is filled with weirder stories
Governments try very hard to manipulate history and often succeed. This appears to have been a very bad manipulation job though.
Reminds me of when some Russian FSB guys were hunting for “terrorists” and they supposedly found some memory “sims” in a hotel room, and in the picture the heavy armed FSB proudly posted it was some boxed copies of the video game called “the sims”. And they were claiming that was legitimate proof of terrorism. Not a frame up job at all, clearly.
Your mom lied to you, and so did the government.
You can’t have a reasonable debate with someone when their position is “everything anyone says is a lie, except what I say”
I can’t? Well, not with that attitude, maybe.
And I am a proud believer that he is innocent, that police officer absolutely planted a gun in his backpack, with their body camera off.
I don’t see the benefit to the rich of letting the real killer go free
That’s because you don’t appear to understand what this is about.
This ain’t about the killer, this is about sending a message to the plebs. Attack on one of their own will result in owner class using full power of the state. They are letting us know they are in charge, public opinion is making them uncomfortable and they are acting erratic. At this point I am assuming that the police botched the evidence spooks collected for them.
The “Luigi is innocent conspiracy is so niche, not even Luigi believes it.
This is has nothing to do with believing. The state has to prove he did it to a jury and they need the public to accept the verdict. They have done neither so far.
Luigi pled not guilty, wtf is u talking about?
Then why was he yelling “It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience!” on his way to arraignment? What’s your mom’s opinion on the matter…?
That to me sounds like a man justifying what he did. Generally “im innocent! Help! Im a scapegoat!” Would be what someone would say. Again Luigi himself doesn’t deny he was the shooter. This “nobody was the shooter” conspiracy is so weird. And again, there’s no debating or discussion with someone who’s position is “everything everyone says is a lie and a cover up, except for what me and my beliefs say” It’s very culty, not really based on fact, just emotion and mistrust.
Overall my message is , stop shit talking Luigi and trying to claim nothing happened. Instead exalt the man for his courage and for his determination. You guys are trying to make him look like a little bitch
Did you miss the Marvel Studios-produced perp walk starring recently embattled but mysteriously unhooked NYC mayor Eric Adams?
Free Luigi, and compensate him with a few million dollars from United Healths bloated coffers for inflicting so much anguish on this innocent young man.
Prosecute United Healthcare for murdering their policy holders.
Literally murdering. They were asking healthcare providers at assisted living facilities to change elderly patients’ records to add DNRs that the patients hadn’t authorized.
Literally altering medical records to make sure people die instead of costing money.
If you mean praying for them to go under, yeah
