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      25 days ago

      It’s a hoot. These Ultra Incels think the Orthodox Church is going to have them a submissive woman. Sounds like their new church is a sausage fest up in there.

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      I find the obsession with being super manly that some types have to be highly suspicious. Seems they are either very insecure or seeking manliness out of a closeted gay urge. Because it’s just not the kind of thing you need to go get help with. Performant manliness is still a performance.

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    doggedly backed the invasion of Ukraine, calling it a Holy War

    Yeah I don’t really give a shit about their concept of the male gender. Apparently it involves fathering many children, so that Russia doesn’t run out of soldiers for the hundred years of glorious holy war it will take to defeat NATO and save the world. If you really want to reach the ultimate heights of manliness, try wearing eye shadow, practicing embroidery, and watching Hello Kitty while remaining confidently masculine.

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      By the way, Ciril’s deranged proclamations of “holy war” are ridiculous. Ukraine is also an Orthodox country.

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    25 days ago

    A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?

    • 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org
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      The Russian Orthodox are in schism from most other Orthodox. You’ll need to get more information to get an answer to that question.

      Russian Orthodoxy was established from it’s foundation as a fake religion that exists to keep political power in Moscow. This is very different from other Orthodox.

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          The roots were more substantial. The political leadership in Moscow took offense when their religious leaders in Kiev (Kiev was the religious capital of their brand of Orthodoxy) went to the Council of Florence and agreed to union with the Catholic Church. Corrupt secular leadership in Moscow feared accountability to anyone so they deposed the Metropolitan (a type of bishop) of Kiev and then ordered the bishops of Moscow to elect their own patriarch. That’s how it got started. And the Russian Orthodox are insane. Many go so far as to say that the Catholic Church has no valid sacraments at all. They frequently get in the way of restoration of union between Rome and other Eastern Orthodox but I feel like we’ve hit a break point where others in the east have had enough. It is time to say “NO” to Moscow. Your political organization masquerading as a religion has done enough harm. Go to the pits of hell where you belong.

    • TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
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      There’s several. I don’t know if the Greek Orthodox are doing the same machoism, but they’re related

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    I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

    These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

    I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

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      Reminds me of a scene in the Lone Wolf and Cub comic I read when I was younger.

      I don’t remember all the details, but there’s a panel where the two most dangerous samurai in all of feudal Japan are camping out before a fight, and some rando is astonished that these high bred, noble, elite warriors are cooking their own rice. One of the two rips into him about self-sufficiency and how there aren’t always servants to do your cooking for you, and what kind of warrior would just starve when he has no servants around?

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      As a Slavic man I find “soup makes you gay” bit to be extra funny. Has he even BEEN to Eastern Europe? What next, some guy from Idaho converts to Islam and decides eating falafels is sinful :)?

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      Pretty much how I see it. Being “a man” is being comfortable with who you are and not being scared about what others think. Putting a dress on and having “Tea” with your kids during playtime is just as manly as playing football. (And looks hilarious when you’re a 6 ft tall biker looking dude with a beard and hairy legs like me.)

  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    Manliness has always been a scam.

    Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

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      I was always told to be manly was to show up for those that you love. To be reliable and useful on a day to day basis. All this nonsense about dominance and “independence” is just ridiculous.

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    “But in the past year-and-a-half our congregation has tripled in size.”

    Still the same 2 dudes, I deliberately misleading you with that phrase and was referring to bicep circumference.

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    So fragile, so scared. They are so terrified of being perceived as lesser men that they resort to this crap. It’s just that you could only feel sorry for them… if they didn’t suck, that is.