• Matriks404@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I know at least few Russian-speaking people where I live (Kraków) who tried to convert me to their church. One Uber (or Bolt idk) driver, when I told him that I am interested in practicing Russian and Ukrainian wanted me to come to some church to read a Bible or something, and other time one friend of mine wanted me to come to (I think) Orthodox church to meet some women or something like that.

    I think I make an error, when I tell people I am agnostic, it’s like a sign for other people to try convert me, and I don’t really want to argue with them.

    • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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      I find the obsession with being super manly that some types have to be highly suspicious. Seems they are either very insecure or seeking manliness out of a closeted gay urge. Because it’s just not the kind of thing you need to go get help with. Performant manliness is still a performance.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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    “Convert Theodore” looks a hell lot like the hat-tipping M’lady mister

    Almost all the converts I meet have opted to home-school their offspring, partly because they believe women should prioritise their families rather than their careers.

    Welp, that alone says a lot.

    Father Moses says Orthodoxy is “not masculine, it is just normal”, while “in the West everything has become very feminised”.

    Hahahaha, no. The only normal is humans wanting to form groups with like-minded people and, sometimes, making that group appear very different from another group, aka schismogenesis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismogenesis

    Some - in America and other countries - see Russia as the last bastion of true Christianity

    Eeehh, given that the orthodox christians are likely closer to the root christianity than the western christians, that is not “too wrong” to assume, I guess. Then again, the orthodox did hunt down several “heretical” christians, some of which likely were “more christian” than them.

  • acargitz@lemmy.ca
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    Very interesting, but also very lazy reporting. They didn’t ask Ukrainian-American Orthodox for example what they think. Ciril’s “holy war” screetches are insane, when Ukraine is also an Orthodox country.

    There are thousands upon thousands of Orthodox Christians in the US, yet the only non-Russian-aligned perspective in the whole article is this:

    Elissa Bjeletich Davis, a former Protestant who now belongs to the Greek Orthodox Church in Austin, is a Sunday school teacher and has her own podcast. She says many converts belong to “the anti-woke crowd” and sometimes have strange ideas about their new faith - especially those in the Russian Church. “They see it as a military, rigid, disciplinary, masculine, authoritarian religion,” Elissa says. “It’s kind of funny. It’s almost as if the old American Puritans and their craziness is resurfacing.”

    (RIP Elissa’s inbox btw)

    It’s annoying to see the crazies monopolize the report. This is also American Orthodoxy:

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    I’ve heard that Russian Orthodox churches in the USA are not what they are in Russia, and are actually fine because of being removed from the hierarchy and kinda marginal, but, eh, manliness is anyway not what Christianity is generally about.

    And “traditions” are no more ancient than in a Catholic church they can find or an Assyrian or an Armenian one.

    Anyway, those stereotypes. Russians are very masculine to be a country whose economy mainly consists of selling oil and gas and other resources, some tech sector due to remnants of Soviet education and building nuclear stations. With prison population rivaling that of the USA. That’s an “/s”.

    EDIT: And the article author knows about Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox being different things, but misses the clue and thinks they are variations of the same. Eastern Orthodox and Catholic are united by being, as it’s sometimes called, Chalcedonean Christianity. Oriental Orthodox is all that split at that point, but not earlier.

    • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Don’t dump your toxic waste there, they will just end on the battlefield being a headache for ukrainians. But if you do, the US could make that up with loads of depleted uranium rounds for ukraine - that doubles the amount of waste you can get rid of, and since the russians increasingly send their troops out with old ladas instead of tanks and body armor, the DU ammo is more useful.

  • rayyy@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    IF you can be shamed into going a Russian church to be manly, you are headed in the opposite direction from the path to manliness - you become a pussy who can only follow.

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      Church is (almost) free therapy though, problem is that some church leaders want to use believers for their own benefit

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      Probably would also talk hours with amazingly attractive women while in therapy too

      I mean, there are ethical boundaries, but already more than a guy trying to find strength outside likely has