• Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 months ago

    ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what’s saving them when in reality, washing your chicken only enables a host of cross-contamination issues. Congratulations for turning your sink into a biohazard facility.

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    Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.

    Cook it properly.

    If you don’t know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.

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      Washed chicken won’t be any safer if it’s undercooked, salmonella isn’t a surface only danger, so you can remove the “unwashed” part at the beginning.

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      Didn’t watch the video, but I have a degree in this field. We were taught to always wash chicken, in a separate room. I was given an earful one time when I was working at the kindergarten kitchen when I forgot to wash chicken thoroughly.

      Edit: I should notice, all my comments apply to a factory setting and business grade kitchens. Multiple people corrected me that cooking at home is different and you should not wash your chicken at home kitchen.

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        Hang on. You’re telling me, all kindergartens in your area have a separate room, just for washing chicken? Like"Here’s where the kids keep their bags, here’s the toilets, this is the chicken washing room, and over there we keep the crafts."

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          There a multiple compartments to every kitchen, at least should be to adhere to sanitary documentation. A separate room for washing dishes, a separate room for cleaning vegetables, a separate room for cleaning meat and a separate room for cooking. The cooking room has separated workplaces for different kinds of food to reduce contamination.

      • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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        Having worked in restaurants for years and been to multiple health and safety classes in multiple states, I call bullshit.

        Washing chicken spreads bacteria all over everything wherever it’s done: the walls, floor, ceiling. Do you sanitize the ceiling after you do this?

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          Listen mate, you can call bullshit all you want, I’m citing official documentation of my country that worked for years, specifically this one “СП 2.3.6.1079-01”, under part VIII, 8.9.

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          I’m inclined to trust my professors that had years of experience, rather than someone off the internet.

  • Teppichbrand@feddit.org
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    Better wash them:

    Eating chickens is the most common source of Salmonella poisoning. A 2014 issue of Consumer Reports published that 97 percent of chicken breasts found in retail stores were contaminated with bacteria that could make people sick, and 38 percent of the Salmonella found was resistant to multiple antibiotics. And, according to a national retail-meat survey by the Food and Drug Administration, about 90 percent of retail chicken showed evidence of contamination with fecal matter.

    Source

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    My eggs have chickenshit on them and thats’ why they don’t need refrigeration like you do in the US.

    Also, I can eat them raw if I like. Finnish health authorities sign off on that.

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      That isn’t entirely correct, the layer of mucous around the egg is called the bloom - it isn’t shit that protects the egg. The bloom actually protects the egg from bacteria that live in the chicken shit, and washing them removes that layer of mucous . Even still, the likelihood of getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.

      Source: I have chickens.

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        it isn’t shit that protects the egg

        Lol I never claimed it is.

        But if there’s shit on the egg, it strongly implies they haven’t been washed and thus have an intact bloom.

        getting salmonella from a supermarket egg is like 1 in 20k or something like that.

        Not in Finland. That high percentages, that is.

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          My eggs have chickenshit on them and thats’ why they don’t need refrigeration like you do in the US.

          Oh, my mistake then.

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            Did you think In was suggesting the shit itself is somehow protective? I didn’t assume that people would assume that, my mistake.

            I thought the implication was obvious.

            implication

            noun

            the conclusion that can be drawn from something although it is not explicitly stated.

            Like if I said “I’ve had a very sensual weekend. Your mom says to say hi.” You could probably understand the implication and wouldn’t just think your mom has accidentally rang me up as a wrong number only to say hello to you, would you?

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              my eggs have chickenshit on and that’s why

              and that’s why

              that’s why

              Idk man, look at the words you write after you write them - don’t expect me to read between the lines of your incorrectly expressed thought.

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                Yeah. The presence of shit shows they’re not washed.

                Unwashed eggs don’t need refrigeration.

                No-one else thought I was claiming shit has protective properties, so perhaps you should consider that you might be mistaken in who has expressed what incorrectly.

                It isn’t my fault that your literary skills aren’t as good as your chicken farming skills.

                Okay imagine you and a good friend often get to go cruising in your mom’s car when she’s not using it. One day you tell them, “Mom’s gonna be home all weekend, that’s why we can go to the party we didn’t have a ride to”.

                But huh. Wait a minute? How does your mom staying at home mean you suddenly get to go somewhere? Huh? Your friend would definitely be mighty confused and ask you to try expressing your thoughts more clearly, wouldn’t they? Right? Becsuse how on Earth would your mom sitting on a sofa mean your travel problem is gone? She’s sitting. Still. At home. How is it relevant?

                Edit autocorrect mistakes

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    Yes people do it.

    No they shouldn’t.

    Maybe we all should once Trump disbands the USDA.

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      I used to not until prime people who worked at the processing plant informed me of what goes on. Wash it, it’s disgusting. Also clean off the gross white stuff and as much fat as you can. I leave the skin though. @

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    not eaying animal products has made my life so much easier in that regard. no need to worry about all the pitentially dangerous stuff on and in dead animals, raised in disgusting conditions :3

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    As a middle aged person who is generally healthy, I’ve never washed chicken. On a side note, we eat chicken weekly. I’ve not experienced diarrhea, or been really sick, or died post chicken eating. I could safely say 1/2 of the days of the year, at least, involve basic butcher parted out chicken, and it is delicious.

    Washing a backyard/farm chicken post killing/plucking to remove blood and debris, sure. But what is the logic behind this strange internet trend?

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      I think it’s just how boomers were raised. I’m middle-aged and I don’t wash chicken, but my boomer mom is horrified at the thought. She came for a visit and made sure I washed the chicken before I cooked with it. 🙄

  • I never wash my meats, that would cast the external microbes around the kitchen. Instead, I blanch them in boiling water for a few minutes. It’s kinda like sous vide, but faster. It’s also fine if you forget it in the water for a bit, the meat will only get cleaner! Toss some broccoli into the water for full meal prep with minimal cleanup

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      What do you think happens to the microbes when you put the chicken in the pan or in the oven?

      Do you also blanche your steaks?

      You’re saying doing that makes the meat cleaner but you’re also sending broccoli in that dirty water?

      All you’re doing is taking the flavor out of your chicken and making a broth out of good meat, that’s ridiculous!

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      Out of all the disturbing comments in this thread, this one gets to me the most, especially saying it’s like a sous vide.

      I love cooking my chicken in a sous vide, but you do it low and slow, 145 degrees for about 2 and a half hours.

      Excellent article on it here: https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-sous-vide-chicken-breast

      If you have one of these machines, I highly recommend trying it this way. Give it a quick sear in some cast iron after.

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        I tried sous vide baths but the ziplocks kept expanding and leaking, so I improvised. My son, trying to be helpful, kept spilling the warm hanger steak water on our dog, who didn’t mind at all but did manage to build a habit of tripping him on his way to the sink like a chihuahua-shaped guided trip cord. Even after she broke 3 of her legs in a botched attempt, looking like a potato on weighted stilts, the habit persisted. Then we moved on to blanching and my wife had to grind the handles off of our cast iron pot to prevent the kid from trying to move it. It was headache after compromise after headache, but my wife and I tolerated it for the perfect steaks. Just try to tell me they don’t look appetizing