I got a dog to spend time with it. It sleeps with me, it goes to work with me, it goes to bars with me. Don’t like it? Not my problem.
Freedom goes both ways you ding dong. A store owner has every right to ban non-service dogs from their store. Don’t like it? Not the store owner’s problem.
Can i come with my pet snake to your workplace? Can i come with a girafe? How about a donkey? A hippo? aAgoat? A duck? Where is the line?
Probably where the animal interfere with the work? Imo doesn’t matter what kind of animal you bring as long as it’s not a nuisance. The line isn’t drawn by species but behaviour
I.e got a chill duck that just hangs around that’s fine. Hyper puppy that chews on cables and pisses on all the plants, not so much. As for a hippo you would have to check the buildings structural integrity.
- Get humped by a dog.
- Whine like a bitch.
Animals don’t belong in places that sell food. Animals don’t belong in office supply stores. Animals don’t belong in post offices. Animals don’t belong in any business other than a vet’s office or pet supply store that specifically allows them.
If you can’t train your animal to be home alone long enough for you to run some errands, then you shouldn’t own a pet.
What about service dogs?
These rules seem arbitrary and capricious. If the dog is well-trained, the owner is able to meet its needs on the go, and nobody else is explicitly being bothered, there’s no compelling reason to block it from any of these establishments.
All of the above hold true for therapy animals, for instance. This isn’t about the animal being well-trained, it is about both the pet and the person to be comfortable and happy, without impinging on the comfort and happiness of others. Locking well-behaved pets out of all of the above establishments does nothing to improve your comfort or happiness. It only serves to inconvenience others.
Barring animals from places that sell food is not arbitrary and capricious, it’s a safety issue.
Well no, the intent is not to inconvenience others, but to not inconvenience yourself.
I love animals. Dogs, cats, rabbits, whatever. Love them all. I’m highly allergic to most of them though.
As a customer of an establishment, why do I need to deal with the animal that belongs to another customer of the establishment? And I’m not being a jerk. I’m not complaining or making a fuss, but if I’m trying to buy toilet paper I shouldn’t need to worry about hair, dander, or if somebody’s dog is well behaved or not. I am the one being inconvenienced, and there doesn’t seem to be a good reason for it.
That goes to the point of the comment you replied to. And to your point, if nobody else is being bothered… Are they checking if others are being bothered? Usually not. That’s a generalization but I can say in my experience it’s true more often than not (and I notice when it is). I’m not saying to ban pets in stores, but it should not be the norm and expect others to just deal with it.
There are some stores, like Home Depot, Home Goods, and Michael’s (in the US), that are historically pet friendly. Leashed and good manners only of course, but it’s great for socializing a pet and making an employee’s day with cute puppies to break up the retail monotony.
A store that explicitly states service animals only, or has no sign, is not appropriate.
These policies work out for the business as well, especially when the store shares a plaza with a pet supply place.
People bringing their dogs to store A might see store B and want to shop there, too. If store B bans pets, that means people either have to bring their dogs home and come back (which is a pain, and people might not return at all), or leave the dogs in their car (which is dangerous or even illegal.) Smart business people don’t want people leaving without shopping, and people with any sense of decency don’t want dogs left in cars.
So when store B explicitly permits people to bring their pets, people can go straight there from Store A without worry. Customers are happy, dogs are happy, business people are happy, and no pets have to suffer in a locked vehicle.
I love dogs. I love looking at them. I love playing with them. Dogs are the best.
But don’t fucking bring your dog…
People are scared of dogs. People are allergic to dogs.
I know you love your dog, I probably love your dog too but I don’t think I should bring my dog anywhere indoors and/or crowded and neither should you.
Obviously!!! If your dog is a service dog, I am not talking about you and your dog. You just make me sad because I can’t play with your dog :( even tho they are such a good boy/girl…
You can ask people with service dogs if it’s ok to pet and most times they are fine with that, the issue is with people running up and petting the dog without asking. Service dogs are very well behaved and usually love a good head pat
Then it’s likely not a service dog, but an emotional support animal. There is a MASSIVE difference, and people treat them like they are the same.
This is an all states thing not just CA. Your dog does not belong at the grocery store
The only problem I’ve had with other dog owners in California or anywhere else, is owners who don’t pick up their dog’s shit. I see people bring dogs into stores all the time, they’re always fine, I never see problems with that.
Now when I step 6-inches off a popular trail to take a picture of a popular view and step in piles of dog feces that people don’t bother to clean because it’s technically not someone’s yard, that’s when I start to wonder if domestication was a good idea. (Of humans that is.)
I’ll take a dog over a kid screeching in a store.
This is so stupid. Grow up.
If you don’t want your leg humped, then stop dressing so provocatively.
as annoying as it is, i honestly dont see too many problems here in socal
the dogs are pretty chill and they don’t seem to cause any issues. i just don’t know why i’d expend the energy if things are generally fine.
Here in colombia pretty much all stores allow pets. I’ve never seen someone’s leg humped though. The worst i’ve seen peoples dogs act is barking at each other.
I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but they’re still animals. Unlike service animals, they haven’t been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and there’s no way to know if it will happen. When it does, it’s lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
Fully agree. It’s just not sanitary either, and I know everyone will assume I mean their dog is dirty. I mean that any animal brings unknown elements into a place that makes food. One good shake of a wet dog and you have dirt and debris flying around people eating, and you’re exactly right things like that may affect others way more even if it doesn’t affect you.
I’m okay with dogs in places like breweries, it’s still a risk but as long as there is plenty of space it’s probably fine. Food though adds a whole other element that I don’t think they belong in.
I work in hospitality and while all your points are valid I do wish there was a solution that allowed a little wiggle room accounting for good communication and personal responsibility.
There area where I live has dozens of small bars and pubs and my issue with every single place accommodating every possible allergic reaction and preference is that they can kind of end up samey. I’m not saying it’s realistic but I don’t think it’d be a bad thing for Pub A to say Dogs are fine but no kids please as long as Pub B says Kids are great but no dogs and Pub C can say No kids or dogs but weird sex shit is fine. A man can dream!
Man, you just made me sad by remembering that my local Pub D that didn’t give a shit about kids, dogs, or weird sex shit is closing down. Sucks cuz it’s the only openly LGBTQ+ bar in the area that I’m aware of.
There is the canine good citizen test that many people do with their dogs.
many
And what about all the rest? How can anyone know that human is a good human and that human is a bad human?
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Which means nothing when it comes to places that serve and sell food as the issue is the fecal bacterial cultures that spread when dogs lick their butts and then lick their feet as well as any allergy concerns.
Your dog could be the best behaved dog in the world and they still can’t get around biological realities.
Let me preface this by first saying I agree that dogs should generally not be allowed in food serving establishments because their hair goes everywhere and nobody likes eating dog hair.
With that said though, I have never once seen my dog lick his own butt. What on earth are other people’s dogs doing?! The closest my dog has gotten to licking his butt is licking around his genitalia, which I grant you is unclean as well, but he’s fluffy and keeps the hair between his legs clean and un-matted. But butt licking?!
Now here’s where I get down voted to hell, but I have to play devil’s advocate lol. I would argue that kids are a MUCH larger vector of bacteria and viruses that are of concern to the average adult human than any dog. Dogs are gross, sure, but I’ll take a lick from a strange dog over a strange toddler’s sticky hands on me!
We should keep dogs out of food places, but mostly cause hair and allergies - if we’re going to ban beings due to their gross factor though that list should be much longer (toddlers, homeless, anyone that didn’t wash their hands after using the restroom…)
I guess I’d better not let my dog in the kitchen or dining area at home.
You germaphobes are fun.
It’s not germ-phobic, it’s biology. And you shouldn’t let your dog on counters or tables for sanitary purposes.
Should come to Texas where they’ll bring in dogs to the grocery store and they act like it’s everyone’s fault but their own when someone gets upset at dogshit in the aisle.
Stupid sexy legs
I love dogs. All dogs. Love them to death.
My fucking mom just lets her little dog go wherever it wants and she almost never has it on a leash. I keep telling her that something is going to go wrong and it will be her fault because she wasn’t on a leash, it my mom doesn’t seem concerned because she has her dog trained fairly well. And to be fair she does come and stay on command, but I still just find it irresponsible to have a dog in public without a leash.
Your mom is a problem dog owner. When something inevitably happens, she’ll blame everyone but herself, because she sees the dog as an extension of herself and her “freedom,” instead of being responsible for a living thing, in a society.
Trash human trait.
Even though she’s my mother I tend to agree. It’s selfish and stupid. Thankfully it’s pretty much the only thing she’s bad about. So I guess it could be much worse. Still. Bothers me greatly and time we are out and about with her dog.
Aside from Elijah Wood, no one gets to pick their parents
…is this is a north joke? I haven’t thought about that movie since I saw it as a kid lmao.
My brother’s dog Frankie was like that. Coming when called by name didn’t stop the car that hit Frankie when he darted into the road. RIP
This is probably what will happen and when it does I don’t know how I’m gonna keep my mouth shut.
One of the places I grew up people would do this with their tiny dogs. Every family had a story of the time a hawk/eagle would make off with one of their tiny dogs. Still didn’t use leashes or watch their dogs tho 🤷♀️
Edit: just remembered we lived near a canyon too with a trail along the top edge. People’s unleashed dogs would chase after something and go flying off the cliff. Rescue helicopters would train for people by rescuing (or usually just retrieving the body of) all the dogs
Basically they’re feeding the local raptor population with their dogs, like that story about coyotes and rescue cats.
I had my dog off lease in an empty place, a random old lady come up and gets scared shitless, starts screaming. Startled my dog who immediately went up to check up on her.
Chaos ensued. In every case it’s always the dog owners fault, why can’t we blame the kids like other humans do.
You just described a story where you were being irresponsible, just so you know!
Ofc
It’s interesting to see that the dog situation is getting out of control in other places. I thought it was only my country where people have been becoming crazier and crazier about dogs.
