• ragepaw@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Fuck off Joe!

    Anyone over the age of 55 needs to be in an advisory role, not a leadership role. It is literally the same fucking leadership today as it was 20 years ago.

    RETIRE YOU OLD FUCKS

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    3 months ago

    I’d rather it was someone else. AOC. Bernie. Anyone in that vein.

    But if he’ll get the Dems to rally and DO SOMETHING? Fuck it. Give it a try. Maybe it will work.

    What fundraising is he referring to though??

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      3 months ago

      Midterms.

      Governance is a thing of the past, it’s all campaigning all the time now. Why do you think they fail so hard to accomplish anything? If they actually fix things they have to find something new to run on. It’s like studios who focus on sequels and reboots, it’s a known quantity. They know people will show up for those platform positions, so they don’t want to remove them as an option.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah I’m in the same boat. Progressives are helping each other and clearly nobody learned from their mistakes last election by nonstop dissing Biden.

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        3 months ago

        It would almost appear they have doubled down on dissing Biden non-stop. Like its the only way they can cope with their lack of political action. Not sure how Trump pulling all restraint from Isreal and providing them with more money than ever is pro-palestine, but you’d think that crowd won the election by not voting or something.

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    3 months ago

    Yes please prop up the dead husk of Joe Biden on a stage like weekend at Bernie’s. That’ll really embolden the base.

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    3 months ago

    It’s not struggling to find a direction, it’s going in the opposite direction of Biden…

    Which is a good thing considered that was bankrupt state parties thru victory fund then claim a president has zero power and can’t do anything till it’s time to campaign for the next election.

    You can’t spend 3.5 years telling people the presidency doesn’t matter then do a 180 for an election.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Oh my fuck.

    get out

    get the fuck out, Biden

    You lost the whole show, you simple fuck. You handed the republic to the fascists. You did NOTHING to stop them. You shook his fucking hand and gave him tea. You couldn’t campaign to save your own fucking life, and your meddling played a major role in your successor failing (though Harris does not get a pass here either). If I never see your name - or the Clinton name, for that matter - ever again in my life, it’ll be too soon.

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      3 months ago

      No, no. It’s worse. They did more than nothing. They specifically held back from prosecuting him because they wanted to run against trump. So Biden could attempt to stay in power by saying “oh it has to be me I’m the only one who’s beaten him.”

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          3 months ago

          Agreed.

          It’s wild that Biden’s arrogance and conceit was a more important concern than winning the election. Everyone around him knew his brain was fucked.

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            3 months ago

            He’s probably more like a young child emotionally right now from mental decline, shouldnt have been allowed to be president.

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          It’s not hubris though. They know what they are doing and they don’t care because they won’t be the ones hurt by it. They would legitimately rather Trump be president than win by having to adopt any kind of actually progressive policy. This is what all of their actions have shown us. Don’t give them a pass for incompetence, they are just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in today.

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          It’s been a while and searching for old news including the words Biden and trump is basically impossible, but I do remember seeing a like DOJ memo or something to hold off on persecuting. While it did not say the reason I listed above, I can’t imagine much other reason to do so and it’s not like they’ll come out and admit it was for that reason.

          Edit: and post I remember commenting on about it two months ago was deleted from politics…. so… can’t find it that way.

          • AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Thanks for the added context. If they did intentionally delay prosecution (plausible considering how much time they had to do it but didn’t) then that’s pretty hard to excuse regardless of the reason.

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    3 months ago

    30,000+ people showed up today for the Bernie/AOC rally today in Colorado.

    If only there was a way forward…… Says the Democrats

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      3 months ago

      Bernie the sheep dog is not the way forward.
      Can’t even bring himself to say the world genocide.
      That horrible regime party can’t be fixed.
      As long as Americans don’t vote 3rd party they get what they deserve.

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        3 months ago

        As long as you hyperfixate on a single issue that’s over there, it’ll be hard to win over here.

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          It is only genocide, no biggie. It is not like Palestinians are people.

          Just remember this the next time you wonder why certain demographics don’t want to vote Democratic anymore. Someone’s single issue is another’s family and friends.

          By your logic why “hyperfixate” on anything? The environment, democracy, human rights and so on, are each a single issue. By the looks of it [some in] the Democratic Party aren’t stopping at abandoning Palestinians either: Gavin Newsom breaks with Democrats on trans athletes in sports. “It is a single issue, don’t hyperfixate on it”, will be the rallying cry in 2028 I’m sure.

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            The USAID that used to feed Gaza is gone, nothing is coming into replace it. People are going to starve to death. Not that you cared about that. Doesn’t run with your narrative. Just like hamas stealing the USAID to sell back to starving palestinians. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

            If you understood how government worked and cared about palestine you’d be VOTING for a senator and house rep who will defund isreal. But noooooo lets not have any strategic goals in mind when elections come around. Lets virtue signal and seethe and concrete the genocide you’re screetching about.

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              Israel is intentionally blocking aid into Gaza. Hamas has nothing to do with it. The termination of USAID also has nothing to do with it. Aid trucks are stuck at the border not allowed in.

              FYI I voted for Jill Stein. No Democrat, at least on my ballot was going to defund Israel.

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                The president does not authorize spending. He just executes the spending. Congress has power of purse, they are the only ones that can cut funding for Isreal. Which i fully support. I would be happy to cut aid to isreal and increase aid to palestine. Happy to help protect palestinian land from Isreali encroachment. I am an ally you are alienating with your harsh views. We probably agree on a lot of things that would benefit palestine. I think without a practical method to acheive them you will never see your goals fullfilled politically.

                Mostly because you voted third party for president not knowing that you meant to vote for congress.

              • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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                3 months ago

                Oh. You voted for a different Putin puppet whose post has made no attempt to run a real campaign in the US and clearly (and vocally) had no intent on winning. Very helpful.

                • PanArab@lemm.ee
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                  A few things:

                  1. Neither major party was opposed to the genocide or had any intention of stopping it.
                  2. You could add all third-party votes, not just Stein’s, and Harris would still lose to Trump. That is if you assume that Kennedy and Oliver too stole votes from Harris.
                  3. Criticizing an Arab for voting for a Jew is peak antisemitism.
                  4. Anyone I don’t like is a Putin puppet. Harris is also a Putin puppet. How else would you explain her purposefully choosing to throw away the election?
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          It’s not a single issue, he is also a warmonger and cheerleader for all the US wars among other things.
          Or do you mean everyone should just ignore al that inconvenient horrible stuff bcs that’s somewhere else and doesn’t affect them personally?
          The true lib way.

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    They still think all they need to do is more fundraising. The Democratic party is cooked.

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    Christ almighty, no. It’s bad enough that the Democratic consultancy didn’t tell him to go fuck himself when he thought to run for president a second time.

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    We desperately need new blood in the Democratic party - people who understand how to actually work for working class voters and to communicate that and earn back people’s trust.

    Joe’s a good man, but his brand of ‘actions speak louder than words’ does NOT work in the Trump era.

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      The man who ran against school desegregation and busing, was the architect of mass incarceration and considered Strom Thurmond to be his friend is a good man?

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    LOL, Dems, how about you prove you can do anything useful first, and then ask for money. You’re a disgrace.

    You’re not prepaid cell phone service.

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    Bernie and AOC are the new direction. Biden wants back in to stop them. Fuck Biden!

    Make no mistake:

    This is not “help.” This is the neoliberal fascist collaborator backlash against help.

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    Okay Grandpa, I know you mean well, but real talk? Fuck off. You’re not helping. And go drown Hilary in the bathroom while you’re at it.