Has anyone actually done the co2 math and the amount of other gases we have to reverse?
It will blow your mind. Dont look up.
Basically everything we have ever consumed for carbonous goods or fuel sources has to be reversed.
That’s because we are a part of nature and we leave footprints like everything else. Change isn’t bad, in fact it’s a good thing. It’s why things evolve. The problem is the velocity of change is too fast for other parts of our ecosystem to keep up. It’s like catching a ball. Every little bit counts.
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Trees are woke
🤷🏽♀️ cy@
The stock market is not static, fool. It’s about ready to explode!!
This motherfucker wants to clear cut the boundary waters. All these special areas destroyed because they’re not a beach side golf course or some tacky casino.
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Keep his cheeto dust fingers away from BWCA.
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When the Ents had reduced a large part of the southern walls to rubbish, and what was left of his people had bolted and deserted him, Saruman fled in a panic. He seems to have been at the gates when we arrived: I expect he came to watch his splendid army march out. When the Ents broke their way in, he left in a hurry. They did not spot him at first. But the night had opened out, and there was a great light of stars, quite enough for Ents to see by, and suddenly Quickbeam gave a cry “The tree-killer, the tree-killer!” Quickbeam is a gentle creature, but he hates Saruman all the more fiercely for that: his people suffered cruelly from orc-axes. He leapt down the path from the inner gate, and he can move like a wind when he is roused. There was a pale figure hurrying away in and out of the shadows of the pillars, and it had nearly reached the stairs to the tower-door. But it was a near thing. Quickbeam was so hot after him, that he was within a step or two of being caught and strangled when he slipped in through the door.
Fuck, some of that will be last remaining old growth, forever lost
That includes almost all remaining old growth forests. Almost all of the areas he chose are old growth forests. Here’s a map of all remaining old growth forests in the US for comparison.
I’m guessing ‘old growth’ in this map means like 80 year forests or something. I’m extremely skeptical that this much forest was never logged.
No. You’d be surprised. Old growth specifically means forests where the trees are older than 200 years on average. If you include mature forests, which are defined as 80-200 years old on average, the amount of forest becomes much larger.
But also consider how much there used to be, and how much disappeared. The US was the first place in the world to really add forest protections. Theodore Roosevelt alone set aside over 150 million acres as national forests at the turn of the 20th century. We’re insanely lucky that happened. I’ve been lucky enough to have traveled to and seen national forests in almost every US state. It makes me die inside knowing they might get cut down now.
I think I see some exploitation of fewer forestry service members now too.
how does Alaska have so little old growth forest?
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I’ve been wondering the same thing ever since seeing the map.
How can conservatives be okay with that? What’s even the need?
They want to conserve
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since Canadian lumber has a tariff making it so expensive now they will chop down the US forests for the value of lumber is high
On another thread, another lemming explained that our logging industry can’t even use the trees from national parks because we’ve specialized all of our mills to specifically sized (and possibly specific kinds of?) trees. The trees from national parks would basically just end up being used for pulp instead of building homes or something.
Yeah American lumber is heavily reliant on forestry since in the long run it’s easier, why fuck around building infrastructure and moving equipment when you can just set a couple acres aside and cut them every couple of years. Also I’m pretty sure this also applies to our pulp production so even that would make it a waste of time to go after national forests.
We may actually entirely side step Trump’s stupidity and evilness on this simply because the industry has moved on from clear cutting. Also while there are probably some mills that can process Lumber from the parks they are probably specialized and also have their own designated forests, for example the guys who process Lumber for the USS Constitution.
building homes
You think anyone in this administration gives a shit about the housing situation!? This is an article about our (We The People) national forests! They’re stripping the country for parts. Fuck, when’s the next date we all protest and march!?
when’s the next date we all protest and march!?
not to be rude but why would you think it would matter at all? they know people don’t want this and they don’t care. power cedes nothing without a demand. the tool you’re looking for is violence, not protest.
No, I don’t think for one second that they care about getting people housed.
oh and the type of trees in the us for logging, isnt very good quality so it ends up more expensive anyways.
Lmao putting a nail in a tree is ‘eco-terrorism’
Fuck this country
Truly we’ve always been the baddies. It’s been a capitalist hellscape from day dot, and that is not an exaggeration.
Ooh, I was picturing something quite large and chonky. This makes sense!
Thanks for the tip!
Would be a damn shame if the National Forestry service just started spiking all those trees.
Would be a shame if the millions of people who cherish our national forests, such as outdoors-people, survivalists, veterans and preppers, just decided that they don’t want their woods chopped down.
Sure would be a shame if anything kept happening to that expensive logging equipment over and over.
Just be careful and never cut a hydraulic hose with any of your body parts near the cut. Hydraulic injection injuries look terrible. Similar for large truck tires, those are not like a tiny cybertruck tires, they can blow up and cause injury.
Ha! I took hydraulic fluid to the eye once upon a time. I now wear safety glasses when I do my forklifting.
Ouch! Can you see from that eye?
Life was pretty blurry for a little while🤣
Luckily the hose popped first thing in the morning, so it wasn’t hot yet. In an unrelated matter, WD-40 hurts like a bitch too. Dont stick your eye in that.
The forests aren’t healthy… And some could indeed use proper thinning out. They’ve been stopped from burning naturally and remain uncut causing many tiny scrawny trees rather than large healthy forests. This makes wildfires that get out of hand that much more intense. The forests are full of perfect fire fuel. So proper thinning would be excellent in fact.
Obviously that’s not what trump is gonna do tho. No need to thin if you just clear cut.
Yeah cuss my money is on that the admin will also just straight cut though, not preserving new growth
Yeah, you need to cut or burn the new growth; it’s those old, huge trees that people want to cut down that survive the fires and re-seed the forest afterward.
Ya exactly… I only point out that the emergency order cites Forest health which is laughable. It is important but this order does shit to address it of course. Just one more thing they can point to and pretend to be doing something good. No one wants the twiggy brushy lumber that needs to be cleared away after decades of mismanagement.
Once again, we find out most of the past presidents just obeyed decorum and norms… Did no one consider that a bad-faith president would just say, "uh…‘EMERGENCY’ ", then he’s allowed to bypass Congress and just do whatever the fuck he wants!?
This needs to be turned against him. Obviously through the courts would be ideal. But at least in terms of the media juxtaposing his emergency declarations with his golfing.
Break in and plant trees all over the fairway and turn the green into a pond.
18 times.
On all his golf courses.
Also that the emergency has been created by him ergo not really an emergency
No, not against just him, against the entire party supporting him.
Hey, that’s emergency golfing to you, buddy!
We went over this with bush 2 and decided the answer is basically yes. Otherwise it’d be letting the terrorists win
There are 3 powers here supposed to balance:
- the president
- the houses
- the supreme court
Guess who scored all of them?
Incidentally this is the reason the judiciary power in other democracies is self governed (e.g., judges elect their own supreme court) and parties in the judiciary are forbidden
But… well… here we are 🤷♂️
Afaik congress could stop him, revoking his “emergency tariff powers” and revoking the emergency itself. But they won’t. Like Trump, they only seek power.
Yeah, these Republicans are absolute enablers. It’s pathetic…
We need to start using the right words.
They aren’t just enablers.
They are traitors.
This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law. I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.
This is a coup d’etat. Lots of people will die. The regime - even if DJT dies or gets shot - will go on. There won’t be any more fair elections. I hope these protests go from 5 million to 10 million on Saturday, because only a mass movement can stop this.
This is the exact same tactic this regime will use on the 20th of April to declare martial law.
Just stop with this. You are basing this off astrology, as you pointed out in your other comment. I’m not saying there’s no chance it won’t happen, but spouting that opinion like it’s an informed fact with concrete evidence is
dangerously close tomisinformation.Lol, as I just pointed out in my other comment, you’re someone who sees a picture and jumps to conclusions. Don’t brigade and attempt to rob others who want to read the entire linked article.
I’m really curious how long it took the Germans in the late 1930’s to call it what it was.
In Germany, by 1934 the regime had publicly admitted murdering hundreds of their opponents without trial.
And written a law after the fact which simply stated: “The measures taken on June 30, July 1 and 2, 1934 are lawful as state self-defense.”
Germans knew.I agree. But I’m just wondering if they went to the butcher to get a bit of meat if they were a acknowledging that they were living under a dictatorial regime right now?
Up until late 1944 or early 1945, most people basically just kept living their lives normally, while making some secret jokes about the regime, being annoyed by the constant air raid sirens, complaining about food shortages, actively looking away when their Jewish neighbors were arrested, and mourning their dead sons, yes.
Why that date specifically?
90 days since the inauguration and a few other good reasons.
Oh it’s astrology bullshit. I was interested in what you were saying in this thread right up until you posted that link.
I agree that we’re in for a rough time, but don’t post your astrological quackery like it’s prediction with solid evidence on what this the administration is going to in the future. Humans are amazing at finding patterns in chaos an ascribing meaning to it, but it doesn’t mean astrology is at all relevant to anything.
Yeah I read the first sentence of the post in the image, and closed the page. No, the movement of the planets doesn’t mean Trump is declaring martial law on 4/20. For fuck sake…
If you want to go that fast and only look at the pretty picture, maybe go read comic books. It’s not just astrology bullshit. Horoscopes are bullshit, astrology when done well can be scarily accurate. Plus I’m not using astrology as the trend setter, but the trend confirmer.
The key thing you refused to read is that Musk is in charge, he’s a proven neo Nazi, and particularly adores Hitler. The rest you’ll have to read yourself. Or you can pander here for some more cheap upvotes.
PS: please lemmy, can we raise the level of discourse please and not upvote these populist comments? Stay on reddit if you just want to be a walking regex that sees “astrology” + “bullshit” = upvote.
astrology when done well can be scarily accurate.
LOL no.
Well, argued I love your scientific methods I need no further proof, thank you
Yeah that’s not how science works.
You are the one making the claim (“astrology is real”) and therefore the honus is on you to provide evidence. And the saying holds true. “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”
And you cannot provide that because it does not exist.
Edit: I just had another thought about your initial claim… You said that it works “when done correctly.”
I’m wondering, how does one know if the astrology was done correctly aside from the prediction ending up being correct? So wouldn’t that be a tautology?
It would be like saying that, “if you flip a coin correctly, it will always end up on tails,” with the only measure of success being “it landed on tails, therefore you flipped it correctly.” Therefore, by definition, flipping a coin “correctly” has a 100% success rate.
Do you see how meaningless all of that is?
Astrology should be derided to an extent that it’s hard to even quantify. It sounds like conspiracy theory forums are more of your jam
Don’t worry it gets downvoted there too.
Hitler was an occultist and into numerology, so is Musk. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand.
This is the typical peasants fighting among themselves while they are steamrolling their Project 2025 in broad daylight.
I know Musk is a neo Nazi, that’s not new information, and couching that fact in astrology destroys the credibility of that fact.
I did read your whole posted link and I’m still calling bullshit, because any time you invoke astrology, all credibility is out the window. This isn’t a “populist” opinion, this is a simple fact: astrology is a ancient system for applying humans’ overactive pattern regocognition, and correlating real world events to the movements of planetary objects against an arbitrary selections of stars.
It doesn’t matter what you believe you don’t have to try and convince other people that you were right and other people
I was merely using astrology to corroborate something that was already pointed out with an abundance of other really good arguments.
To me you’re just a Muppet who will dismiss the discovery of a cure for cancer because the researcher said he found a cure of cancer on his birthday. Babies and bathwater and stuff
If you think that the wealthy and the powerful of the world don’t use astrology to time their events, that’s when you lose all credibility with me.
Thank you for taking in this discussion with me
This person is a FUCKING FASCIST AND IS SPREADING WHITE REPLACEMENT BULLSHIT DONT TRUST THEM ON A SINGLE FUCKING THING
What’s on April 20…?
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*mass armed movement they don’t care if 100 million person manifest if they fear nothing after that and no they don’t need a reason for martial law still gonna happen with only peaceful protest
I thought when talking about the USA the arms and violence is implied. Though, historically it is curious how the French with a notorious lack of weapons wreak more havoc than them 2nd amendment folks.
This person is a FUCKING FASCIST AND IS SPREADING WHITE REPLACEMENT BULLSHIT DONT TRUST THEM ON A SINGLE FUCKING THING
