Apparently I’m now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler.
For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists.
The Ban:
The Context:
I’m actually an anarchist, but you’re gonna use whatever pejorative makes you comfortable
You just like to say you are. You’re anti-ukraine and from russia. You put up more tankie posts and anti-dem posts than anything critical of the repubs.
You’re a tankie.
The reason I am often pissed at the democrats is due to how bad they are at actually opposing the republicans.
You’re just a ‘team blue’ maga type
I see the entirety of your political knowledge is America
the person I’m replying to said that I was a tankie for being insufficiently critical of Republicans, go talk to them if you have an issue with people being US-centric
If I search for “maga house”, “maga car”, “maga outfit”, I’m going to get some very specific images as a result.
Please show me an example of this “blue maga” in image form.
What does that even mean? It’s sure not an explanation for how the public record of your actions (and oft expressed opinons) appears to wildly differ from the values you’re claiming to hold…
What does ‘team blue’ maga mean?
The guy I was responding to has in this very thread said:
In response to criticism of ‘the west’: ‘you don’t like it? leave’
That’s like something I would unironically hear from a republican
Upholding ‘western civilization’ because capitalism somehow lifts people out of poverty, again this could easily come from a maga republican, this person just happens to be on team blue.
For me ‘blue maga’ are the people who are western chauvinists but act like they’re above it all because they voted for ‘the good guys’ running the soul harvester.
Is being an anarchist somehow contingent on passing a geopolitical opinion litmus test? I organize with anarchists, I shit on the russian government all the fucking time for being a capitalist shithole. I shit on the US government all the fucking time for being a capitalist shithole. I happen to have ended up living in the US due to the various political upheavals in mine (and my parents) lifetimes. As a result I tend to criticize the US more directly as I am not a fan of my taxes getting turned into dead children abroad.
Lol you clearly don’t know me, scan through my posts and see if you think I’m blue maga or whatever the fuck. I fall more on the social libertarian side than anything else. I’m very critical of the dems, but I’m not also a fucking idiot who thinks that the fascist shit pile we currently have is somehow the same as the dems by any means. The dems haven’t gone full fascist… it’s pretty clear they’d also not be destroying the US or harming it’s allies…and would be supporting Ukraine. Something you clearly are against…so to me you’re a tankie who sides with maga and fascist.
“Blue MAGA” is literally the singular best example of tankies parroting fascist rhetoric and is open evidence of their not so quiet collaboration. What a perfect parallel to the original topic of this thread!
“I’m not racist because Islam isn’t a race”
Yeah you’re pretty much what I would categorize as blue maga, chauvinist, racist, but team red ‘disgusts’ you. Clearly team blue would be managing the empire better so that it could stay ‘great’
You seem to have an issue with anarchists too:
Yea that makes me racists because I’m not a hamas supporter while also not supporting Israel? Lol try harder.
Islam is a violent religion that doesn’t support LGBTQ+ rights or womens rights…those are facts.
‘not racist’, you just have your finger on the pulse of the Islamic hive mind 👍
want to tell me more about how you feel about anarchists?
https://fiqhcouncil.org/fatwa-regarding-transgenderism/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_people_and_Islam#Public_opinion_among_Muslims
You really got some strong blinders on there.
Not to shine too bright a light on this, but you kinda have a habit of finding a single sentence that out-of-context supports your position and then jumping the gun by citing it. Did you read the immediately previous sentence, where they provide that quote as a clarification of their pro-palestine position and then go on to repeatedly defend Palestinian lives and decry the actions of Israel despite their (Palestinian) religion’s general stance on the LGBTQ+ or other political and social issues? Here:
Honestly I don’t know how well I’d get along with SupraMario (they were pretty islamaphobic a year ago and don’t seem to know what anarchists actually espouse) - but this is beside that issue: it’s aggravating as heck to see these comments. You’re clearly intelligent, but you’re just too eager to respond and it keeps making you look foolish. If you’d just slow down a little and get the context in which things are said, you’d be a much more persuasive advocate for your beliefs.
I’m not an Islamaphobic, I’m just not naive to think that Islam isn’t less violent than other religions. I can support the people trapped under its weight, while still denouncing the religion…hell I feel that way against most religions because of how oppressive they are. This doesn’t make me somehow a religious-phobic of one religion, I just don’t like that people are naive of said religion because it’s being currently at war with itself and anyone that doesn’t agree with it, and tons of innocent people are dying under it. It doesn’t give it a pass.
The Christian right is doing the same shit, sans the beheadings and stonings of women and LGBTQ+, here in the USA with removal of LGBTQ+/womens rights, and everyone is in agreement that it’s fucked up…yet the same people will defend islam???
Please make that make sense.
I should say that after a review of your post history I’m quite sure we’d get along, I really only included that as an allusion to magnanimity. Religion is a difficult topic, all too often the discussion of any major trend amongst it is rebutted with specific examples of contrary behavior from a subset of the group. Maddening.
the original comment they responded to in that thread was this:
moving the goal posts to ‘hate crime’ doesn’t change that point.
‘Israel’ and its US accomplices are the #1 murderer of trans people in the world right now, statistically speaking, even if it is indirect.
SupraMario can say that that israel ‘sucks’, but then redirecting to ‘but hamas,’ or ‘Islam in general bad’ doesn’t bolster that position. Maybe they actually don’t like seeing US taxes get turned into dead children, but considering how strongly they feel that the west is best I’m not holding out hope.
They are not claiming that there must be a hate crime for something to be valid, just that the initial comparison is inherently foolish, and they are elaborating their position by using hate crimes as an example. It’s a passable application of reductio ad absurdum.
They explicitly clarify that their position is the direct opposite of what you’re presenting it as.
You’re doing it again, Diva.
doing what? they do the same to me every time they roll up to call me a tankie.
the point was that the US and its Israeli proxy have the most dead trans people on their hands right now due to killing civilians indescriminately.
I don’t see what the comparison to Russian soldiers gets you in that quote, you realize that a war is different from a genocide of a captive population, right?
Says the person literally doing a “but Ukraine, Nazis” so russia ok to kill and take over Ukraine.
I’m actually opposed to all inter-capitalist conflicts. Ukraine may have a bunch of Nazi gangs running wild, but I don’t think it’s ‘ok’ to invade. It just gets more people killed and the situation spirals out of anyone’s control. I can understand the rationale, but there’s also other motivations.
got any more thoughts to share about anarchists, or maybe thoughts about NATO destroying Libya or US invading Iraq?
ok tankie