I have a 55" Samsung plasma TV from 2015 and a 2020 83" Samsung OLEDTV and a 2023 53" Ultrawide Samsung computer monitor.
Each one has hours and hours of use a day. None has burn-in.
The only thing you do notice is the 53" Ultrawide image will shift around every 5 minutes.
OLED burn-in hasn’t been an issue for years. Last time I got burn-in was 2014.
All of my screens are OLED (PC monitors, TV, phone, car stereo). The oldest display in my house is from 2019. None of them are showing any signs of burn-in, and I obsessively check for it all the time.
Shhh… quit trying to convince these people, let them have their inferior response times and colours. Less competition for the enlightened, means that prices won’t skyrocket due to an influx of demand.
I don’t quite understand this post. Is it saying that LCD panels suffer much more severe burn-in than OLED over a longer time period?
The exact opposite actually. All the lcd I have are over 10 years old. They don’t give up.
I’m looking at my plasma screen from 2010 right now.
CRT is laughing, and not in its grave, because it will outlast them all.
I was actually thinking what would lead to a Alien Earth type situation where everyone is still using CRT.
The screen will, but my ears won’t. Idk I am just old enough to have been at the tail end of CRTs, but I can’t stand the high pitched whine. They all do that, right?
You can’t hear it much out of your 20’s unless you’re an edge-case-human. The frequencies in question that you’re referring to are ones that almost all humans are deaf to by the time they’re 30.
CRTs whine at ~15kHz, which should be audible until at least your 40s.
I’m 37, and have absolutely destroyed my hearing by always having a loud sound system with booming subs in my car ever since I was a teenager, yet I can still hear up to ~17kHz. I can always tell when I’m in a house with a running CRT.
If you’re younger than me and can’t hear CRTs, can’t tell the difference between FM and HD Radio, or the difference between a 96kbps MP3 and 320k/lossless, then it might be a good idea to get a hearing test.
Not with my tinnitus, which I’ve had to live with since I was about 5 years old.
I have that sound all the time! Got a just degaus it, that’s the best part of CRTs, making it dance.
I’d say it depends on the voltage and hertz you’re running, but yeah, hearing it isn’t anything super special.
I was once so fking annoyed at this “kennel” my former gf got chihuahuas from, because the grower used an “anti-mouse” device and seeing how I could hear it whine, I’m pretty sure the 20 chihuahuas could as well.
Miniled is better than both
I have an LCD screen I got 15 years ago that I still use as a secondary monitor for my PC. It’s 1360x768 so the resolution is low but it’s perfect for YouTube on the side or messaging programs
I have a TV with “Edge LED” since 2017. No HDR but nice picture and still going strong with too many hours of gaming.
Nevermind. It’s regular LCD.
All that edge LED crap was such BS marketing. Even most renditions of the zoned backlighting are trash that makes obvious bright spots and glowing features in the wrong scenes.
Anyone selling a “LED TV” that was just LED backlighting should’ve been fined.
Yup. I got it in 2017 and the backlight of it isn’t bleeding anywhere, the quality itself is very good and it runs on Linux and white it was marketed as smart, it’s pretty dumb - which is good because it never asked me to accept any terms of services since I first turned it on.
CRT owners after 50 years: “Respect my authoritah!”
CRT suffer from phosphor fade
That can be repaired. It’s not particularly easy, but it can be done and there are people who do it especially for old arcade machines.
more like that picture of randy with giant cancerous balls
2013 Plasma owner, no burn in here!
Same. I did have some retention early in the panel’s life (Investigation Discovery logo) - but that’s vanished and it’s been fine.
Also laughing in last generation plasma.
I loved the picture from our plasma, but the heat it generated was something else. It was like running a bar heater with better graphics. Literally needed to run the air conditioning to watch TV.
2011 plasma and still going strong
2009 plasma here
even my phone got burn in…
Yep mine too after only a couple years. I knew it was going to be a problem when I bought the phone, but I do like the true black…
Isn’t oled better these days?
While improvements have been made to management to help they will still all suffer burn in. Use them with any static content and they will show signs of problems within months.
The burn in claims are grossly exaggerated. A simple pixel refresh that runs automatically when the screen sleeps counters the burn in. Most OLED screens you buy now have a pixel or panel refresh feature.
Probably all of them have it, I would be surprised if you could turn it off actually.
The “refresh” just makes the pic more uniform again, the refresh itself is a sort of controlled burn-in.
Not too long ago OLEDs would lose brightness due to it (especially red brightness iirc?).As I stated it’s static content which will cause the most obvious issue, most TVs won’t show that. Refreshing the screen helps mitigate or hide most general damage now.
Even without pixel refresh, newer OLED panels generally don’t burn-in much, if at all. Still wouldn’t risk skipping the auto refresh, though honestly many of them run it without telling you now when the screen goes into standby. I wouldn’t even know my 2024 Alienware OLED ran it at all without accidentally interrupting it.
My oled phone from 2021 started slowly developing vertical lines of bad pixels this year and has some burn in on the status bar area. It’s still usable, but definitely kind of annoying and a lot worse than the status of the lcd on the older phone it replaced.
For a bright room they only now have(ish!) the juice to actually perform*, but they all recommend to run them are like 80% brightness.
*top, expensive models I mean, and even tho for a lot of content you need a little bit less brightness compared to even VA, due to contrast, but that is way not enough to make a difference + with dimness of OLEDs you have to be extra careful to buy one that actually has a black screen when turned off in a bright room (and not grey in a bright environment bcs it fucks the contrast).
So, my use case, with running at 100% brightness, I would have some sort of burn-in in a few years. Absolutely not something I want to look at for a decade.
And I’m old enough to have had beautiful PVA & MVA matrices that burned in (I bought them old actually -I clinged to my CRT for as long as possible, and then suffered TN for gaming- and for my second monitor most of the time).
One of my 1600×1200 PVAs (the later model without burn in) is still next to my serves, so every few years or so it shows console :‘’'(.
As I see it, for a bright room, there are no OLEDs … maybe some of the newest gen TVs maybe?
For a normal room, buy an OLED with the mentality that you might want to e-waste it after 5 years of taking care of it (no static content, no max brightness).
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2007 1080p LCD still kicking.
Also have one of the tiny CRTs with the VCR built in that is god knows, 80s or 90s.
I also have a 1080p 2007 LCD still kicking. To be fair, any lcd I ever bought is still in great shape. But that one is the oldest.
My CRTs eventually started showing burn in. Also we never had a special one so image quality was ok at best, even compared to our first LCD units, so I can’t say I miss them.
Give it up one more time for old LCDs trucking along, such perseverance, really awesome
Same!! Was recently thinking of replacing it, but then I thought “Why?” So… meh.
I still think there is no better picture than a plasma screen and I’ll die on this hill.
(probably alone)
Amen. I’m still rocking a 2011 Samsung plasma but unfortunately it’s slowly getting worse. Think OLED will replace it, definitely not LED.
We still have our original Sony Bravia Z Series (LCD) Amazing picture for a TV that we bought brand new back in 2011.