• Wolf@lemmy.today
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    10 days ago

    Is it just me or is whitewashing slavery the first step in reinstituting slavery?

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    10 days ago

    People sang more back then. There were hardly any workers comp claims. And it kept kids off their dang iPhones.

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        Compensation should be the value of 40 acres and a mule, compounded at the going interest rate for 160 years. That bill shoud be paid by the states of the former Confederacy.

        Also, black people in those states should be given 5/3 of a vote for 100 years, to compensate for the 3/5 rule.

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    10 days ago

    We have to keep drilling in that slavery is bad because there are still so many fucking racists in this country.

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    10 days ago

    So, teaching the horrors of slavery is woke now? They are just telling on themselves now.

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      11 days ago

      where everything discussed is how horrible our Country is, how bad Slavery was

      ‘Bad’ and ‘negative’ are synonyms here.

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      11 days ago

      In his Truth Social website President Donald Trump described the Smithsonian as “OUT OF CONTROL” and said museums across the United States are “WOKE.”

      Convicted felon says museums are woke and out of control.

      In a statement sent to Newsweek the Smithsonian said: "The Smithsonian’s work is grounded in a deep commitment to scholarly excellence, rigorous research, and the accurate, factual presentation of history.

      The world’s largest museum, education and research complex says they are grounded in accurate presentation of history.

      It’s pretty clear that the US government is targeting the Smithsonian and other historical archives to rewrite history.

      Considering the other articles linked which talk about the removal of trump’s impeachments and other pressures on historical facts and accuracy, I’d be worried about the following quote:

      "It’s not about whitewashing it’s about full context, so while slavery is obviously a horrible aspect of our nation’s history you can’t really talk about slavery honestly unless you also talk about hope and progress and I think we need to be focusing on the progress that we’ve made then and we need to stop focusing so much on the lack of progress.

      So, yeh the Nazis killed a bunch of people. But they also developed the Volkswagen, Porsche and Hugo Boss. And we have all come to appreciate fancy cars and fly shirts. So, let’s not focus on what the Nazis did, but instead let’s concentrate on the hope that cars bring!

      And even if you argue that “things are better now”. Sure, somewhat. But, imo, it’s not really something to celebrate. Black people can vote, but shitty racist people in power still suppress the fuck out of them.

      Germany recognises it’s history. It teaches it in school, it’s made memorials & museums of historically abhorrent places, and it’s outlawed everything related.

      US still celebrates Thanksgiving.
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/maiahoskin/2022/11/24/the-real-history-behind-thanksgiving/

      So yeh, here is the directive:
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-restores-truth-and-sanity-to-american-history/

      to work to eliminate improper, divisive, or anti-American ideology from the Smithsonian and its museums, education and research centers, and the National Zoo.

      So, eliminate some history.
      But - depending on how carefully that scalpel is wielded - it could cut away the bad parts and leave the “good” parts. Cherry picking, if you will.
      Leaves a generally positive vibe of slavery.
      Divisive and anti-american to whip/hang/rape slaves. So, leave that part out.
      But provide the American dream for a slave by impregnating them and giving them a less crowded room and easier slave labour, or elevating them to a house position, or whatever… THATS the American dream!
      Slaves that behaved were treated well.
      But, just leave out the thousands of slaves that were beaten for sensless reasons because they were considered barbaric and sub-human.
      Just… Ignore the fact that they were kidnapped from their home, transported for weeks in horrendous conditions, then auctioned off to rich white men.

    • scintilla@crust.piefed.social
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      11 days ago

      And yet the title is still an accurate summary.

      Focusing on the “progress” and “hope” while teaching slavery is indeed a form of white washing of history.

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      White House official Lindsey Halligan: “While slavery is obviously a horrible aspect of our nation’s history, you can’t really talk about slavery honestly unless you also talk about hope and progress … we need to stop focusing so much on the lack of progress.”

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      11 days ago

      The lack of quotation marks around any part of the title indicates it’s not a direct quote.

      Is there something you feel is inaccurate about it?

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      Robert E. Lee, the hero of the south, tortured his slaves so savagely that his own slave overseer was disgusted and refused to participate. Which leads me to believe that the scars seen in this photo should be considered “within reason.”

      See? Bright side to everything if you’re enough of a monster.

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      and that’s not even getting into lynching picnics for the whole family, or community, cannibalism, using hair and other body parts of slaves to make medical devices, furniture, or decoration, and who can forget sexual slavery, raping slaves and selling the resulting children into slavery, many first hand accounts from slaves talk about constant sexual abuse. so it’s not ALL just torture and mutilation of living people, or dehumanizing them in every way imaginable.

      and one of the big fat myths of slavery, the docile happy slave. Never happened, slaves were very frequently rebelling, trying to organize to over throw their masters, and creating a whole systems of escape. There was no happiness in slavery, it a daily power struggle to suppress slave revolts and uprisings, and keep slaves in a constant state of fear and terror.

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    10 days ago

    The logic:

    400 years of slavery but your great great grand grand kids have been taught 1 or 2 farming skills a piece.

    Oh, and we will be generous and only charge half price for those 400 years of your food and lodging.

    You owe us really…

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    Well, yes? The US has this strange fixation on slavery. It is a horrible practice that is believed to traumatize people for generations. While in reality the slavery was almost everywhere these times (if we don’t focus on Europe). Maybe it’s time to ask yourself, has the slavery really left this deep wound or maybe it was something else?

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      10 days ago

      Please learn about the different forms of slavery. The one that worked for most of humanity (as a temporary service to cancel a debt/fault) and was almost morally ok, isn’t compatible with capitalism.

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      OK so, willful ignorance ( or fundamental misunderstandings ) and false dichotomies aside.

      I’m interested in hearing what you mean by “something else”.

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      what on earth ? get lost bro

      Or rather, learn some history, meet some people… rectify this awful stance, please