My favorite musical artists as a child (90s) were John Denver; Peter, Paul, and Mary; the Beatles; and Cream. I didn’t ever get into boy bands, but I can sing along to the absolute biggest spice girl hits.
That was only really a hindrance in elementary school because in middle school I branched out into more contemporary musicians. Now, I’ve got a lot more knowledge about the 70s in music than most of my peers, but I’m not isolated from the things my peer group likes (I will lose my shit to Mr. Brightside or Yeah by Usher if I’m drunk, but I definitely will as well for anything from Carole King’s Tapestry)
Why so salty about a dad sharing his interests and stuff from his life with his kid? She can play other games too.
Legit, it’s not an either/or. I ragequit Warioland on RA and took my frustrations out building and unleashing siege weapons in TOTK
Salt gets traction, no one on the internet wants normal family values or feelgood anything
as if everybody gaming in the 90’s we were all in sync with each other. lol i was rocking pc win98 tie fighter, and old floppy disc knock off games/ sim city, one kid down the street, she had a Nintendo with 3 Disney games Aladdin, lion king etc, one had a Sega with zombies ate my neighbors, that paper boy game and some sanic. it was pure chaos even later when “everyone” had a ps1 everyone’s tastes were completely different. sure there were trends but nobody felt they were stuck in a outdated bubble like op is implying except for that Atari kid. only played pong, fuck that bubble kid neanderthal mutherfucker. lol
Oh what a memory! I remember I was playing Sonic the Hedgehog, where my best friend was playing Zelda Lttp and my crush was playing Doom on Win95.
And yeah, when PS1 came out, suddenly we were bringing our own controllers to play Tekken. And then once in a while, go to our one buddy’s house to Oogle Dead or Alive 2 on Dreamcast.
C64 reboot: https://a.co/d/2uyn43m
I am and I don’t care.
I feel this is exactly the same as boomers who raised thier kids on exclusively 70 and 80s “classic” rock.
I do have a fondness for old rock/metal from that era too and am pretty happy with it, so maybe that’s a green light!
Shit, my parents were boomers and raised me on 50s and 60s music. The oldest boomers would’ve been 35 in 1980.
All that said, nothing wrong with listening to music from the past. Most popular classical music was written well over a century ago. I personally love music from the 40s. My son gets an earful representing every decade
The youngest boomers were born in 1964, so they’d be in thier late 20s at the end of the 80’s. Which were my parents.
I also dont think there’s anything wrong with exposing your kids to older media, which was my point. Your kids will seek out new media without you, so giving them a foundation of things that came before helps expand thier knowledge base.
You’re confusing Gen X and the boomers. Boomers were ~1948-64, making the youngest boomers 61 today.
like 90% of my active games library is 2009 or older. that’s not to say i don’t give modern games a shot. they just don’t stick around like the old ones do most of the time. exceptions are, like, Path of Exile 2; which for all intents and purposes plays like a game designed prior to 2009 🤣
so yeah, my kids definitely prefer the older stuff too. plus, i mean, what kid doesn’t play the shit out of minecraft or roblox today anyway (2009 and 2004 respectively)?
I got Commodore C128 as my first computer when rest of the world was solidly running Pentiums. That had to be around 1997 or something. That might explain my “acquired” taste in games.
God I tried. And it told me a lot out myself.
The VAST majority of that old stuff, the stuff that I remember so fondly, was only fun because it was the best we had.
My first game was Yars Revenge. By today’s standards, it’s about 30 seconds of entertainment.
Even Super Mario Brothers, the pinnacle of games for years, had no save button and you have to pull off a long series of perfect play with only a couple of lives or get sent back to level 1. It was almost all single player taking turns.
Compared to even old current systems, there’s just no draw there and there’s no social aspects for them.
I was really surprised how quick my kids fell in love with Super Mario 3(Super Mario All-stars).
Their cousin played the Switch version and my introduction led them to try and 100% all the classic 2D Super Mario games.
I think you’re missing a large piece of the puzzle here.
back between the 70s-90s you played games with friends in the room. you would mock and challenge each other to do better. That was the game.
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thanks for making me lose the game 😠
Sounds like something someone who had friends growing up would say
I didn’t have any friends, but I had siblings.
My kid is almost 6 so he doesn’t really know modern games. For now he is totally into lemmings and the incredible machine 2. It’s fun because I played those games a lot and can easily help him when he is stuck.
Even Super Mario Brothers, the pinnacle of games for years, had no save button and you have to pull off a long series of perfect play with only a couple of lives or get sent back to level 1.
Maybe the original has this issue of being held back by overly punishing arcade inspired design, but I replayed Super Mario World recently and I think it holds up in this respect. You only need to get past the next checkpoint for your progress to be saved, and if you are running low on lives and don’t want to lose progress, there is the option of going back to previous levels to farm more lives and powerups. There are also semi-secret areas with buttons that put extra blocks into every level that make the game easier. For basically the first half of the game the only thing that’s really required to win is a small amount of impulse control, planning and patience, and it seems to deliberately work to teach you that stuff in various ways.
Cant force the shit, same with any culturally significant thing from your childhood. Think of it in reverse: if you aren’t willing to engage with their zeitgeist in good faith, how could you expect them to engage with yours?
Nah… it’s okay. She won’t be out of touch. Nintendo is going to release these games for the Switch 2 for $80.
This will be me when I have children and I am not sorry.
I’ll help them build that foundational understanding of what games were and then if they still wanna play the modern bs, they can.
This is the responsible way to raise a child on video games IMO. Modern games have predatory practices like microtransactions.
The look on her face says everything to me though.
The look on her face says everything to me though.
lol, it wasn’t even attempting to be a good photoshop. Maybe your screen needs cleaning?
Plenty of fun normal games, especially indie games.
Only if you teach them. My son is playing casual games on Steam and emulated games.
While my son’s friends were talking about new Call of Duty/Fortnite updates. And they’re like 8yos.
Jokes on them. I hack games that have micro transactions and DLCs and make them entirely free. Even games I have paid for. My child hasn’t seen an ad or a micro transaction yet.
Can you elaborate a bit more on that? Most of the games with dlc or microtransaction stuff that I play have it all verified with some sort of online system (steam, mostly). What games are you hacking, and how?
steam does not verify much by itself, its not made to be a strong security system. look up goldberg emu, cream api, etc. they work if the DLC content is not really downloadable, but already baked in just locked away behind a check
and if the content is something to download, most of the time you can grab the clean steam files from a website of a russian counterstrike community and drop the files into your game install folder and then use the aforementioned tools.
Well, what about this: Early exposure to the shithead practices of modern gaming can enable children to more easily identify what’s good and what’s just trying to take money from them.
I dunno.
My kids didn’t see an ad connected to videos until the youngest was about 7 (outside of a movie theater, at least). When they first saw them, they were flabbergasted about what they were or why people would just sit there watching them, and absolutely refuse to put up with them. I’d say they are better off seeing how things could be, so when they see how things are now they recognize how utter shit it is.
absolutely refuse to put up with them
This is amazing. Good job! I wish more people were like this. Apparently São Paulo in Brazil has no ads at all.
You could argue the other way around - growing up with decent and non-predatory practices makes you less tolerant of when companies try to extort you because you already know what “good” looks like.
I’m sure the corpos would love nothing more than kids getting exposed to predatory practices from a young age so they grow up feeling those things are acceptable and normal.
Drag thinks we should expose kids to a safe environment most of the time, and to little bits of predatory design in contexts that make them easy to identify. Like a vaccine.
“Dad, how do I put armour on my horse?”
“You need to grow up and get a job and a credit card for that.”
“That sucks, I hate Oblivion! I want to go back to Morrowind!”
“It’s okay buddy, I pirated the Oblivion remaster. Let’s play that instead.”
The problem is that kids dont make or have money. Its like burning their hand the first time, they need to attempt to pay for their own lives fully at least once to really understand it. I think its fair to restrict these types of things to mature rated games as a general rule.
Most kids aren’t discerning about those kinds of things.
That’s why I slam that shit home all the time. Robux are a scam. YouTubers are just selling to you. If it has ads it’s not worth watching. Just repeat that every day to the kids and they’re good to go.
The message they will take away is “the things my parents approve of” and “the things that are really cool and fun” are disjoint categories. IDK, I’m not a parent, I don’t want to deal with that. Just thinking about my own childhood here, and the kids of people I know.
yeah the problem is this doesn’t line up with the horror stories I’ve personally witnessed. Sudden, massive credit card charges. The problem can occur when kids aren’t spending their own money, they’re using their parents’, some way some how.
Regardless, kids are already surrounded by ads in every corner of life trying to convince them they need XYZ in exchange for money. I’d rather work to make the kid’s environment less consumerist, to give them a vision of how life could be.
If you give your kid access to your credit card you’re a fool. Those are parents who perhaps needed to learn some extra lessons in life.
The second the kid goes to school, they’re faced with every single fad anyway. It’s insanity. Everyone wants a croc, a Stanley, a labubu. My kids see the ads built in to the YouTubes, and they see it from friends, and I do my best to explain to them what’s happening.
And if they earn some money, or get birthday money, and they want to burn it on some nonsense, I explain to them what’s happening but ultimately give them some autonomy. And when the next thing comes along and they can’t spend money because they have none, they either learn or they don’t.
I grew up playing games with my dad. I wouldn’t change a thing. I miss it dearly.
He never went easy on me in Soul Calibur.
He never went easy on me in Soul Calibur
Dad aint raising no wimp! Get good or get schooled.
But seriously that’s really sweet.Your dad is Nick Swardson? That’s cool
A well made game knows no age limits! My kiddo was super into the original mario when we showed it to him. I would have thought it would look dated, but he doesn’t know!
Today’s kids have the benefit that insanely amazing graphics in huge budget games is commonplace, pixel art is a popular visual style that has new games coming out all the time, and janky homemade graphics with visual glitches (essentially memes in game format) are also popular thanks to everything from garry’s mod recordings to platforms like Roblox where a million people make their own goofy little games.
So if I take my 3rd grader though some gaming history, starting at least from the NES era where you have decent resolution, smooth scrolling, and numerous colors, things are not instantly dated like we olds might expect.
I could fire up Super Mario Bros, TIE Fighter, Super Mario World, Chrono Trigger, Symphony of the Night, VVVVVV, or Elden Ring, and I honestly don’t think any of them would get a particularly positive or negative reaction based on visual fidelity. It’s just a question of whether it looks like the type of gameplay he is into. Even with the obviously popular chunky Minecraft/Roblox look, he’s draw to it because it’s a popular style that he likes. If I comment about how ooh they updated the Xbox version to 4K rendering, or look at the crazy stuff I can do with the draw distance in the Java version on Linux, he does not give any fucks. It’s the command line and the mods that let us do wacky things that are actually entertaining.
Honestly this is how my parents(‘ generation) got me into gaming, pre-NES, because I was playing their games on Atari and Intellivision. I don’t know if it was the NES’s marketing or what that made people associate video games = for kids, but they were all in their 20s at the time and they had a blast with that stuff. Actually now that I think about it my grandma was mean at Burger Time back in the day.
Duh, fun is only for children. Adults must be productive to produce profit.
Collared shirts only.
Sorry, but that wasn’t a complete sentence, so I’m going to have to deduct you 10 Adult Points. You are now legally a minor until you can pay the fine of not more than fifty million US dollars.
I’m not allowed to travel to the US without being accompanied by an adult, fortunately. Wait, damnit!
we would ALL sit around and play mario on sunday nights. mom and dad too when they were home. TF is this gaming is just kids shit
