Guilty? No.
Proud? Yes!
My kids be vibing of Super Mario Sunshine, Go Vacation, Warioware.
My eldest (7) tried to explain some of these games to a friend the other day, with “They’re good for your brain!”.
You should have seen how perplexed her friend was with the Wii controls.
Raising them right.
The Sunshine music is burned into my brain from my eldest playing it daily for the past couple of months.
The game itself too… I had no idea!
I joke that with Gecko codes enabled (to fix the horrendous inverted controls), plus unlimited FLUDD (jet back) and fast running, you basically end up with the world’s cutest Just Cause clone, except with chill vibes.
There are plenty of games up to the PS3 era that every kid would do well to play at least once. Stuff that is objectively good, that aged well, or close enough.
The problem, as I see it, is that if they get too used to mobile games, they won’t have the patience for typical console or PC games, because those, on average, aren’t dopamine dispensers and won’t be rewarding every second click or button press - more importantly, they should NOT nag the player with cash shops.
Also important: limit the amount of games available - this is valid both for current and retro games. The moment you have “all the games” at your disposal, several things kick in: analysis paralysis, appeal to familiarity (will only play what you already know or someone knows), seeing no value in the games[1].
Others mentioned the social aspect, which is true as well and something they just can’t experience nowadays anymore. Minecraft and Roblox are famous because they’re easy for kids to pick and play with friends. Back in our days, we had to physically sit beside one another and play together, or pass the controller on death; we also physically lent and traded games, so the games also had value within our little social circles. While fully digital games are extremely convenient, the “scarcity” gave them a social value that they completely lack today and which I suppose boardgames now fill out (yes, you can play them online, but playing on an actual table is almost always better)
If, when you were small, you only had a limited selection of games, which was common during the cartridge era, you would be very careful with choosing new games to ask your parents to buy, though renting was an option to see which ones were good or not. You had to make do with the little you had. When you got bored with one, you either looked through your collection and played something else, or did something else entirely; you never threw away a game (unless it really sucked) and you never got a new game on a whim. That is good. ↩︎
Damn, I never knew that Markdown (or Lemmy idk) had footers!
they’re pretty useful and neat in some contexts, also super easy, caret + brackets:
caret after a word^[and all text in the brackets goes in the footnote]
i don’t think i’ve ever heard anyone call it “the ps3 era”.
- Mario 64?
- Ocarina of Time?
- Turkish?
- Goldeneye?
This kid is about to meet one of the gaming gods.
Kid’ll be fine.
Besides, what super awesome lifestyle changing game is out right now that the kid will miss?
Turkish?
One of these things is not like the other… I tried to look this up and can’t find it. My best guess is an autocorrected Turok?
Roblox 🤮
Ehhh, there’s a lot of crap on Roblox, but some of it isn’t bad. There’s just the obvious UI bullshit and constant spam to buy shit, but I take that opportunity to shit on people who do that so that my kids understand that’s a dirty practice.
My 16 year old understands that concept, my 10-year-old is policed by the 16 year old and has a 1 hour time limit anyway, my 8-year-old would actively look for things to break and buy and gamble because he falls into all of the traps the game creators make. So I installed retroarch on his tablet and he can play all the good games.
Shit this is what I’m doing. My kids are nuts about the niche indie games I play. My son has crazy good skills for Super Meat Boy and Super Hexagon.
Is really super meat boy “niche” anymore, lol.
Yes. It was a big fish in a small pond when it came out, compared to where indies were at back then. And where indies were back then was a niche. I’d say it’s largely been forgotten compared to the most popular indie hits today.
Also: in the context of this meme, it will put my son out of touch with his generation. None of his peers are going to have heard of this.
Not really, all games age. But niche games also exist, it’s not fair to them to classify a classic as niche when stuff like shadowveil exists
today it’s probably less niche than the n64.
I am “guilty” of showing my daughter classic movies including some black and white ones.
I think everyone should watch those, it is like studying the life and culture of the past.
As for games, my partner does not allow gaming at all.
my partner does not allow gaming at all
What? I’m curious to hear why. Gaming has shown to increase hand eye coordination, better thinking and logical skills, and if you go for non-electronic gaming it can help a person develop social skills by interacting with others.
A blanket ban on gaming just seems short sighted, rather than teaching them rights and wrongs around playing and overplay
My five year old loves On The Town with Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra.
Season 1 of Mister Rogers Neighborhood and I love Lucy also come to mind.
it is like studying the life and culture of the past.
I truly think stuff like this is important. Developing an appreciation and personal connection to cultural touchstones of the past is like a history lesson and familiarizes you with the life experiences of your parents/grandparents/etc.
Gotta educate them on pop culture so they can understand the memes.
I play a kind of bingo in my head when I show my kids old stuff. Just tally up “thats from fortnite”
I like to recommend Gold Diggers of 1933 to people who say they don’t like old movies.
I’ll take a look. Thanks.
My favorite is Metropolis (1927).
Also a classic. Gold Diggers has top notch shit talking and young Ginger Rogers singing in pig latin. Gave me a huge crush.
As for games, my partner does not allow gaming at all.
That seems like something that should be a discussion rather than an edict
As for games, my partner does not allow gaming at all.
Weird. Do they hate videogames in general or what? Because a number of games can teach “choices have consequences” really well. Maybe put them to play Outer Wilds, I hear it’s one hell of an experience to dive into without knowing anything
I feel this is exactly the same as boomers who raised thier kids on exclusively 70 and 80s “classic” rock.
I do have a fondness for old rock/metal from that era too and am pretty happy with it, so maybe that’s a green light!
Shit, my parents were boomers and raised me on 50s and 60s music. The oldest boomers would’ve been 35 in 1980.
All that said, nothing wrong with listening to music from the past. Most popular classical music was written well over a century ago. I personally love music from the 40s. My son gets an earful representing every decade
The youngest boomers were born in 1964, so they’d be in thier late 20s at the end of the 80’s. Which were my parents.
I also dont think there’s anything wrong with exposing your kids to older media, which was my point. Your kids will seek out new media without you, so giving them a foundation of things that came before helps expand thier knowledge base.
You’re confusing Gen X and the boomers. Boomers were ~1948-64, making the youngest boomers 61 today.
like 90% of my active games library is 2009 or older. that’s not to say i don’t give modern games a shot. they just don’t stick around like the old ones do most of the time. exceptions are, like, Path of Exile 2; which for all intents and purposes plays like a game designed prior to 2009 🤣
so yeah, my kids definitely prefer the older stuff too. plus, i mean, what kid doesn’t play the shit out of minecraft or roblox today anyway (2009 and 2004 respectively)?
I got Commodore C128 as my first computer when rest of the world was solidly running Pentiums. That had to be around 1997 or something. That might explain my “acquired” taste in games.
I got a Miyoo Mini plus for mine, installed onionos and loads of games from internet archive. They love it, maybe one day I’ll set up my dusty wiiU but i only have Mario kart for it. Or some kind of minipc set up.
Now my daughter brings her friends home to play Mario 64! Masterpieces have no expiry date!!
I misread that as Mario Kart 64. That game is the apex of the genre.
I am 50+, remember paying quarters to play Pong and Space Invaders.
Built my kids a game box using Batocera Linux and ROMs from the 80s and 90s (Atari2600, Intellivision, Colecovision, etc)
I was thereby able to show them the True Magic and Wonder of Computers
Adventure was the tits, but Fuck Linux
Seriously
Every distro, every version
Fuck linux
Calm down, Bill Gates
You are so fucking lucky there’s an entire internet between me and you rn
And you’re lucky there is this entire Lemmy.World instance running on Linux for you to get this worked up over them about.
r/usernamechecksout
Every one of you gets blocked
Try being original for once in your fucking life
You are fun! Happily to be blocked :) but why is everyone mad at you? Jks no one’s mad they just tapping a screen breathing air and have no real concerns about you or I. But what did you mean to get the minus points?
The only part being true is my life is fucked, rest easy friend I don’t care about strangers online
Why, tho? Is it because it’s not basically an advertisement for some large language model?
You lincucks are so fucking deranged
Why do you like Windows so much, then?
I NEVER SAID I LIKED WINDOWS WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH YOU PEOPLE CONSTANTLY PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!?
I say ‘FUck linux’ so you immediately assume that I’m some microsuck fan
I say ‘Fuck capitalism’ and you immediately assume I’m a communist
I say ‘Fuck ratheists’ and you immediately assume I’m a conservative evagelical that wants to institute Biblical law
I have never been or wanted any of these things but every FUCKING time I point out the flaws, everyone just immediately assumes I’m an anti
And I’m so fucking tired of it because it erases ALL MOTHERFUCKING NUANCE in EVERY discussion is comes up in
Fuck off
Get bent
Die lonely
“FUCK LINUX” is, like, tooooootally something a Microsoft hater would say, am I right, guys? /s
I point out the flaws
This also contradicts what you initially said.
I have supported windows infrastructure since the early 90s and I can guaran-fucking-tee you there are few people on the planet who hate windows more than me
And before you make another one of your ridiculous assumptions, about 2/3rd of the infrastructure I have been personally responsible for are running linux
This also contradicts what you initially said.
Show me, I’m SO fucking tired of this
I did this to myself because I only played games that my gpu could perform and that was the reason why pretty much all of the games I play are pre 2010.
What GPU
Don’t remember which one I had at the time, but it barely played angry birds and my current one is an rx580.
Ah okay. Asking as my 1080 is still playing anything I want even though it’s 10+(?) years old
The 1080 was a factory freak. I used mine forever, I want to say from a 2015 build as well.
I mean I get like 40 fps in cs2 with all low and fsr on performance but on 1440p lowering to 1080 imoroved itby about 5 fps, I tested it with an another rx 580 and it is the same.
Same with my 1070. He’ll, even my wife’s 970 is running strong. Can either of them play at max? Unlikely. But my wife is able to play just about anything, if at the lowest setting.
Introducing kids to old games is great, but restricting them from experiencing their own generations culture, not so much
Except when that culture is full of predatory shit like microtransactions
Also, forcing your kids to play your favorite old games assumes that your games were the best games.
They were fun in their day, but time moves on. Assuming that everything since you formed your opinions is inferior is some big boomer energy.
Let them find their own fun with their friends on their terms. Making your kids play your old crap with you is kinda sad.
I think Minecraft is boring as hell and I’m not gonna play it, but I’m not going to force my kids to play mega man 2 instead.
I think Guitar Hero was a good investment for my kids, as they came to love all the classics I grew up on.
Ooh, I hope that works for my daughter when she’s old enough for it to be relevant. I’ve got a wall of instruments - some real, some game controllers, and some combination game/MIDI controllers.
You’re in for a fun evening. Let her pick up a peripheral and she might stick with it long enough to actually learn the real thing. That’s how Rock Band drums got me playing a real kit.
Excellent! I’ve got the drums and mic but I don’t keep those in a ready state at the mo’.
Being really good at guitar hero was the final motivating push I needed to actually learn real guitar. Today I enjoy being a consistently mediocre casual guitarist.
Playing the crap out of Guitar Hero with my friends ages ago is one of my most cherished memories, your daughter is in for a treat.
It could also serve as a cool way to bridge past and present since Fortnite now has a GH gamemode, made by the original creators of GH and RockbandOh that’s fun! My daughter is a few weeks old so we’re in for a bit of a wait, but we’ll see where we land on video games as she gets older. Being able to rock out as a family (+tribe) sounds wonderful.
i caught my 5yo playing golden eye the other day and i was not disappointed!
Nah… it’s okay. She won’t be out of touch. Nintendo is going to release these games for the Switch 2 for $80.
