• k0e3@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    Will they accept corrupt politians or CEOs from other nations?

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    20 hours ago

    “They’re eating the cats. They’re eating the dogs. They’re eating the pets of the people that live there”

  • npdean@lemmy.today
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    This is all sorts of fucked up. First, why do people get pets if they are becoming unwanted. Second, why does the zoo need to ask the public for animals. Third, wtf.

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      22 hours ago

      Try reading the article.

      “In zoos, we have a responsibility to imitate the natural food chain of the animals — in terms of both animal welfare and professional integrity,” Aalborg Zoo said in a post on social media.

      The zoo in northern Denmark said that chickens, rabbits and guinea pigs were an important part of the diet of its predators, which need “whole prey,” reminiscent of what they would hunt in the wild.

      “If you have a healthy animal that has to leave here for various reasons, feel free to donate it to us. The animals are gently euthanized by trained staff and are afterwards used as fodder. That way, nothing goes to waste — and we ensure natural behavior, nutrition and well-being for our predators,” Aalborg Zoo said.

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        21 hours ago

        This is okay but why are they asking for pets, that is my problem. They can source these things themselves.

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          21 hours ago

          "If you have a healthy animal that has to leave here for various reasons <…> That way, nothing goes to waste

          They’re not telling people to give up wanted pets. They’re saying if you’re putting your pet to sleep anyway, give it to them.

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            21 hours ago

            I think there should be several steps before euthanising healthy animals. Put it up for adoption, a no kill shelter, let it go stray, a timed kill shelter, etc

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              In that case, the same logic applies when the shelter is full / has to make space for new animals. Trust me, there’s never enough room in a shelter.

              let it go stray

              Congrats, you’ve either condemned it to a more painful death or increased the workload of the local animal control.

  • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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    They mention animals that are frequently raised as livestock. Chickens, Rabbits, Guinea Pigs are all mentioned. Horse is the only unusual one to me. I’d find it much more upsetting if they were accepting cats and dogs.

    -Coincidentally I watched two YT videos yesterday. One was about some homesteaders that were dispatching chickens they raised for meat to share with their village. The other was about some small-time farmers that raise guinea-pigs (among other things) that were used for lawn-mowing. The farmers just anounced in that video that the guinea pigs will also be used as a food source.

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    There’s been a handful of studies now, finding that house cats can often (but not always) thrive on a fully plant-based diet as long as it’s properly formulated. Can’t help but wonder how many other animals who we assumed are “obligate carnivores,” maybe, like, aren’t?

    • Yes, with an extremely customised, unnatural diet, a cat may survive a vegan diet. They rarely thrive. But the point is that they’re unable to do so naturally, most cats will not understand why their food isn’t what they’re naturally and instinctually supposed to eat, which causes them stress.

      Cats have an instinct to chew on grass for digestive purposes, but that’s about it when it comes to eating plants. Getting a proper vegan diet for a cat is extremely hard to do and unnecessarily stressful for cats.

      Cat food in most cases already is discarded meat not fit for human consumption. You’re not exactly saving a lot of animals by forcing a cat on an unnatural diet.

      If you’re vegan, feed your cat meat. If you don’t want to do that, don’t get a cat.

      • Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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        That’s not really the argument, though. Cats are obviously, objectively, and indisputably carnivores. The question is whether they are obligate carnivores. If they can live healthily without detriment on a plant based diet, then they are not obligate carnivores. If they cannot survive healthily on a plant based diet then they literally require meat to live, in which case they are an obligate carnivore.

        The moral, ethical, and health discussion around feeding cats (both house- and big-) a plant based diet is beyond my scope, but arguing whether the cat is going to go for the tuna or the spinach isn’t the point. They’ll clearly go for the tuna. The question is whether they need that tuna to survive, or if they could live (healthy and happily) without it, if they could get their nutrients from, and be effectively tricked by, a plant based substitute.

        • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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          Dude, people like you are everywhere. “My dogs a vegetarian”, “my cats a vagan”, “my cockapoo is a 2 spirted trans Afghan wolf hound”. Its always something, rather than just letting the pet be a pet. We hate it when asshole bullies, get bully dogs that they then train to be asshole just like them. But when it comes to other people pushing their nonsense onto pets, all of sudden we have to respect it.

          Cats are carnivores. Thats the end of the discussion. Thats what they are. Just because they can survive on something, doesnt mean its what they should be eating. Some humans say they are vegan, and “survive”. They look fucking ill as fuck, but they are surviving. And without science, in the form of special meals and supplements, they would be fucking dead. Wanna know why? Cos human beings arent vegan. We can survive without meat, but its not how our diet is supposed to go.

          All that said, I too hate the farming industry and how it keeps and treats animals. But we need more to be done on that front, than going out to eat at a restaurant just to moan at some minimum wage waiter about how meat, and its disgusting that theres no vegan options.

          • Dharma Curious (he/him)@slrpnk.net
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            How about reread what I wrote?

            I’m not a vegan; I’m not a vegetarian. I’m far too broke and dependent on other people to be so picky as to choose what I get to eat. My dogs are also not on a vegetarian diet, neither is the cat.

            I am not making an argument for or against veganism, and especially not for or against a vegan diet for pets. I was explaining what the difference was between a carnivore and an obligate carnivore is. I’m also not the originator of this thread, in case you missed that, too.

            Normally I’d try to be nicer and more respectful, so as not to further inflame a situation, but honestly, the transphobic dig at “people like me” screams of someone who isn’t worth my time or respect. Be better. You can get your point across without needing to disrespect trans people and indigenous people. 'sfucked up

            • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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              17 hours ago

              “People like you” People pushing their own shit on to pets.

              But please, tell me more about how I am transphobic for calling out shitty owners who insist their dogs are LGBT just to get attention? I am all fucking ears.

    • mvlad88@lemmy.world
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      Put a blanket over the place that she scratches and/or a scratching pole somewhere near the sofa.

      Generally the more scratching poles (or carpets on the floor) they have to scratch, the less they mess with furniture.

  • Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    Could have just offered up 15 roosters this morning. They’ll go to trapping bait instead.

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      What do you use roosters to trap? And why wouldn’t someone just eat the roosters if you weren’t wanting them. Someone would probably also buy them.

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        We use everything. It all supports how we live. We do not use the grocery store very much and even though we are poor we actually give a lot of food away to our neighbors and friends.

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          Ah, that makes sense. I’ve only got one rooster and that’s because he was sexed wrong. So I have a dozen hens and 1 rooster now. I only use them for eggs though. Have to say he’s the nicest rooster I’ve ever met though. I never had any white chickens prior so I picked up 3 Plymouth rocks and 3 white Plymouth rocks and one of rhe white ones turned out to be the rooster. Hoping he stays relaxed how he is.

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            We hatch our own and we have all heritage breeds for various reasons so we end up with a lot of roosters. We have 42 hens at different stages right now and probably 3-4 roosters left.

            Barred rocks are generally very gentle birds. Even the roosters. Keep touching him and talking to him and he’ll be good for a while. They tend to get a little ornery when they get older.

            We do solely a meat breed for eating.

  • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    It is worth noting that the article says they are euthanizing the animals before feeding. So it’s not like they take a terrified pet and let the tiger rip it apart alive.

    Still, not a fan of this…

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      Right in the article it says “The animals are gently euthanized by trained staff”

      • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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        They are tossed in to be torn appart. Iirc predators love to go balls first if the prey does not mean too much effort for them.

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          19 hours ago

          No where does it say that in the article, and twice it says they are euthanized beforehand, so I’m just going to have to assume you are making things up and spreading lies for your own agenda unless you can prove otherwise

    • JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder ‘why, why, why?’ Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand