• don@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    Governor Ron DeSantis said during a panel discussion in March: “Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when, you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff? … What’s wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.”

    And a lot of things were different for your great-great-grandparents, and yet here you are not living as they did, you cheesedick dumbfuck.

  • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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    17 days ago

    what’s the news here? They are basically using the same arguments the US used to not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Minors being the parents property is still an almost uncontroversial position in the US even if people don’t phrase it like that.

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    17 days ago

    lol do American politicians seriously try to frame child labor laws as taking away parents rights?

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      16 days ago

      In ancent rome there was a law,that went something like “you cannot sell your son into slavery a third time”. Americans would see that as a violation of parental rights

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        16 days ago

        Third? The fuck did someone do to cause that?! Was there some dude who sold his son into slavery and then said son got out of slavery at least three times so the Romans had to pass a law to keep that from happening again? Why do I get the feeling Crassus was involved.

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      16 days ago

      part of the conservative ideology is that children are property and should be molested, not heard.

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      17 days ago

      When I was a kid, my mom was outraged that somebody made the statement, “children aren’t their parent’s property.”
      So, yeah

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      17 days ago

      Currently every politician making a name for themselves will frame anything they can in any way they can. Words have little meaning lately so you just say whatever the fuck you want and worry about the angle later.

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      16 days ago

      Of course! Especially those from the party that wants crops to be picked, but doesn’t want anyone who would actually do it to exist or survive in our country. And because the term “child labor” in general is unpalatable to most people. For good reason…

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    16 days ago

    There’s I think a dollop on the brassero program that details a past program where they’d ship high schoolers to farms for the summer in an attempt to reduce migratory workers. The program failed immediately. Conservatives are insane in the literal definition of the word.

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    17 days ago

    Actually surprising that the Republicans didn’t just push it through as they have a majority, but one can be happy about every news like that

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      16 days ago

      Also, anyone who wants to access government services. Want Medicaid? Work in the fields. Want Social Security? Work in the fields. Want Food Stamps? Work in the fields? Want Medicare? Work in the fields. Etc.

      If you already have a couple of jobs, send your children to the fields. It’s not like they’re getting a useful education anyway. Most of it will be MAGA propaganda about how much better it is for kids to work in the fields instead of the classroom, because it keeps the evil foreigners out of our country.

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    17 days ago

    I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.

    The fact that “how it used to be” in your childhood produced a scumbag like you is a compelling argument to not let people’s childhoods be like that anymore.

    • sylver_dragon@lemmy.world
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      I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.

      Also, this is complete and utter bullshit. I’m older than Ron boy, and child labor laws predate me. The folks picking crops in the fields in the 80’s and 90’s were the same immigrants that are (or were, I guess) doing it today. And anyone who attended Yale almost certainly wasn’t out picking crops as a kid. Like most members of the GOP, he has zero attachment to reality.

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    17 days ago

    Republican state Senator Jay Collins, the bill’s sponsor, said the measure was about parental rights: “We should let them say what’s best for their kids at 16- to 17-year-olds, that’s what we’re saying by this.”

    Anyone who puts forth a measure aimed at “parental rights”, it’s always something that’s aimed at parents’ right to treat their children like property

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      17 days ago

      It would also have scrapped required 30-minute meal breaks

      It’s a parent’s right to make sure their child works an 8 hour shift with no breaks! Breaks are socialism!

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          So let’s make the jobs nobody wants to do even worse while we deport the few remaining people willing to do them.

          Then try and get notoriously hard working and focused teenagers to do it.

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      17 days ago

      Every one of these is always “Parent’s Rights Act” and the text is like “murdering your gay/trans 10-year-old is now totally legal”.

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      17 days ago

      "You should be able to give your child a job at a slave wage in awful conditions. That’s a parental decision.

      “What if I want to give my child the opportunity to explore their gender identity? Thats a parental decision too.”

      “Off to the gulag with you all.”

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    16 days ago

    The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don’t think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can’t keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don’t pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.

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      16 days ago

      Why don’t you go work in the field? We need all the top shots out there, get on it buddy.

    • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      16 days ago

      Children should grow up and use their energy for learning, so that they aren’t doomed to become slaves for the prison industry in a future where people without solid education are not able to do more than work in the fields or clean offices.

      But i know, y’all don’t need that, because all the stuff that made america great in the 50’s and 60’s was invented by farm workers and office cleaners… or might it be that all that made america great came from the minds of the top educated of their fields, you know, scientists - you will need new ones in the future, since the ones living right now are fleeing the US as fast as possible to escape the braindead fascism that has taken hold of the country.

      You should start begging your children to stay in school, your future depends on it.

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    17 days ago

    Do they even purify the drinking water in Florida? … or are people there just this stupid?

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      17 days ago

      The place is surrounded by sea and riddled with swamps, how dare you try to homogonize all the tasty natural flavors.

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        Maybe that was the case 20 years ago, but today there native son Gen-X and Millennial shits are voting just as hard R as the old folks used to. I’ve been here the whole time and watched the whole state transition from “haha” dumb to “dude, wtf?” dumb.

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        I’m not giving them lead as a pass. There’s a huge swath of Boomers who are just shitass, toxic, hateful people. They never grew out of their angsty, entitled bitter selves, and most are broadly uneducated, and resentful despite failing upwards for 30-40 years as a confluence of luck.

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          I never said it was a pass. But it is something you must take into account.

          We added fucking lead to everything back then. Even the fucking water lines and gasoline pumping it into every breath they took whether they wanted to or not. An entire generation fucked by lead without knowing it at the time.

          Lead exposure has been shown to things like increased aggression. Which propaganda then takes to the next level by stoking artificial fear.

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            The way you phrase and articulate your statements reads like you are suggesting that lead is the culprit of Boomer behavior, and not deep character flaws and a broad sense of entitlement and narcissistic indulgences. Hence my rebuttal.

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              Oh no there’s a lot of bullshit with the boomers. Lead is just one of many things. It’s not all just because they’re assholes, there are some legitimate contributors that result in the extreme bullshit pie.

    • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
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      17 days ago

      DeSantis just outlawed fluoride in water and my city just… went along with it. It’s the dumbest state and I can’t wait to leave.

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          17 days ago

          I’m not the one you asked, but adding fluoride to tap water was a revolution in dental health, so yeah.

          Just like most things, concentration matters. A little fluoride is very good for you. A lot of fluoride is bad for you. They put a “very good for you” amount in the water, and if you don’t get it from the water you should take supplements.

          You may have seen conspiracy theories about fluoride addition which have existed since the 70s, but those have about as much credibility as chemtrails.

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            16 days ago

            Don’t know about any conspiracy theories, but my take is tapwater should be as clean as possible without any additives. Fluoride is in fish, fruits, toothpaste, make sure you eat healthy enough so you don’t need your water source to be “contaminated”.

            But I guess in the US and the food quality its better than nothing.

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              The introduction of flouride to drinking water saw a massive improvement in the public’s dental health across the board. It is still widely considered to be one of the greatest public health initiatives of the 20th century.

              You should also keep in mind that drinking water always has some level of natural flouride in it. Just the concentration varies by region. Public health officials discovered that areas with higher amounts of natural flouride also had lower rates of cavities and tooth decay. So some cities have their water flouridated to bring their flouride content up to beneficial levels.