Is this it? Is this the answer?
I was on her side until I read the article. She chased this person an unspecified distance in her car, blocked the chicken killer’s car with her own, then attempted to open their car door, before settling on macing them.
Fuck that impatient chicken killer but you don’t get to do a road rage for some vigilante justice. This was just two psychopaths being brought together by circumstance.
Nah, fuck that chicken killer FAFO
JURY NULLIFICATION
But… Why was the chicken crossing the road? 🤔
To instigate a murder
Well it failed. The chicken’s owner only maced the driver.
Hmmmm… Suspicious amount of people caring about chickens in these comments
Well yeah, it’s not like I’d do something sick like pay to have a chicken’s beak cut off while it’s still alive.
Yeah and I definitely wouldn’t condemn a species to factory farming just to suit my cultural norms of what lunch is
Deserved… It could be a child instead of chicken.
in this case, this is especially relevant
The woman stopped to let the chicken cross the road, so there was clearly something happening and obviously some sort of reason that this person was stopped in the road, and the driver behind them sped around and hit the chicken. that 100% could have been a pet or infant or child instead
The woman who hit the chicken made the explicit decision to ignore the warnings that were evident, and still hit something. fucking abhorrent behaviour
the first time i read the sentence i thought it said children.
Buk buk.
I was taught by my driving instructor to not try and avoid smaller animals because swerving or sudden breaking would be more likely to result in a major accident than simply plowing through it. Whereas larger animals medium sized dog for example could lead to a wider accident if you hit them.
The driver was able to avoid the car stopped in the road to let the chicken cross. Instead of stopping behind them and waiting, they pulled out to cut around the stopped car.
I see this kind of behaviour all the time in my neighbourhood, at a crosswalk with a “kids crossing” sign and curb barriers designed to keep people from cutting around on the right. If someone is stopped to make a left hand turn, they cut on the right anyway, and if someone is stopped to let a kid or an animal cross (animals cross there all the time), they cut on the left.
People have been hit at that intersection. But people still keep doing it.
that’s relevant on the highway, not residential neighbourhoods
You should be aware enough of traffic around you to know if slamming the brakes on presents a significant hazard. (And if you can’t react to an animal appearing in the road you’re likely driving too fast for the visibility and conditions)
Luckily I’ve never had to turn a cat inside out, but they frequently dart out infront of vehicles close enough that slamming on the breaks won’t do much even at low speed. I have a friend who’s cat died on a stretch of road that had a 30 km/h speed limit.
One of the best reasons to keep cats indoors, but yeah I said “likely” because exceptions do exist.
The driver was a first time Skyrim player
AND STAY THE FUCK OUT OF RIVERWOOD!
Lol
lol, her expression says it all, “Worth it, 10/10 would mace that bitch again.”
Might do a little jail time but the chicken killer will think twice next time. I mean, christ, you live in Key West. Get on island time already.
And then you wonder, “Why was the chicken crossing the road in the first place?”
Sometimes, animals just don’t understand how cars works. I was going to work one morning, and a jackrabbit was in my lane…it ran away, but in a way that would ensure it would get crushed if I sped up. It was only after about quarter of an mile that it decided to leave my lane…only to u-turn back into it.
THUMP
Sometimes, life is fleeting, without reason.
Had a similar thing 30 years ago when I worked 2nd shift, heading home at night. 5 miles from home, empty 2-lane road 55 mph. Little bunny hopping in my lane towards me. I veered left, it followed. I veered right, it followed. No time left to avoid, THUMP! Sad, but I did what I could in the moment…
It took me coming to the comments to notice that the word in the headline was chicken, not children. I was about to go OFF about those cops.
You still can. They suck.
Yesterday while driving, I hit two different birds in the span of about 15 minutes. I was going under the limit both times and definitely wouldn’t try to hit them. The second one looked like it was going to miss me before it turned and went straight at the windshield. Real tucker and dale moment for me.
i cannot put into words how much i despise people who don’t see anything wrong with crushing animals with their car, it’s so fucking gross and IMO should disqualify them from handling a heavy vehicle.
It’s no different than shooting animals with a gun (proper or airsoft or whatever), which i think any sensible person would agree should bar you from owning guns.
That’s a really weird comment coming from (I assume) a Swede, given the popularity of hunting there.
do you think most people hunt here? like stockholm is just full of woodsmen in cabins?
It’s no different than shooting animals with a gun (proper or airsoft or whatever), which i think any sensible person would agree should bar you from owning guns.
I think there’s quite a big difference between senselessly running over an animal and shooting one with a gun. I mean hunting for food and animal population control are kinda necessary in a lot of situations, while running over an animal isn’t.
Tbf it’s also safer to hit the animal in many cases than slam on the brakes and possibly get rear-ended or swerve into possible dangerous hazards like other cars or poles. Many driving schools actually teach that it’s often the safest option unless the animal itself is big enough to be a hazard like a deer or moose.
Doing either out of malicious intent is the problem, but then again doing just about anything out of malicious intent is a problem lol. It’s more about the intent than the action.
yeah i kinda obviously wasn’t talking about hunting, but just shooting a possum or whatever because you think it’s fun
hunting for food
Go to Wendy’s
animal population control
Bring back the native big cats
There. Problem solved.
Go to Wendy’s
Don’t really see the difference between going to Wendy’s to eat meat and hunting for meat. Well besides the fact that industrialized farming practices are less ethical.
Bring back the native big cats
We no longer have the same ecology that used to be able to support big cats and wolves, at least in North America. Native Americans spent generations changing the environment to make deer over plentiful. Add that to the destruction of nearly all old forest as European settlers moved west, and it makes it infeasible to utilize apex predators to control the population of deer in the vast majority of north America.
Go to Wendy’s
You would prefer that animals are raised in horrendous conditions without ever seeing sunlight only to be slaughtered over shooting an animal that has grown up in it’s natural habitat?
Like, vegetarians I can get, because they argue that we shouldn’t be eating meat at all. Arguing that industrial farming is better for animal welfare than hunting is just absurd though.
There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy. You start out hiring animals and you are more likely to be okay hurting humans.
If people are going to choose to eat meat, then I would prefer that they are protected from the trauma that comes with animal killing.
There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy.
I think you’re conflating hunting with torturing animals for entertainment…
Not sure I see the difference
Lol, I’m sure you do… you’re just being purposely obtuse. Hunters do not hunt with intent to cause undue suffering to animals. With the animal harm associated with psychopathy the suffering is the express intent of the harm, not a byproduct of it.
If hunting was actually correlated with psychopathy then we’d be in a bit of a pickle, considering that we evolved from hunting and gathering societies.
Distancing yourself from the violence doesn’t make you less complicit in the violence.
Eating animals inherently requires a willingness to harm animals. You can either ignore it or you can’t.
I’m not talking about being complicit. I’m talking about exposure.
Just like you’re not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that’s good for your psyche.
But if you don’t like that, be vegetarian.
Most people cope like you are here but it’s honestly weird to see someone who is seemingly so self aware but also encourages this ignorance.
Remaining ignorant of these problems doesn’t make them go away or make anyone any less complicit in perpetuating them.
It’s worth considering that it’s possible to eat without harming animals and it’s possible to have a cell phone without child slavery.
Just like you’re not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that’s good for your psyche.
Not knowing at all is one thing. Choosing to be willfully ignorant is another.
But if you don’t like that, be vegetarian.
Yeah I agree.
From the totally opposite side of this. I think that people should be required to kill and butcher an animal at least once if they’re going to eat meat.
That would quickly end factory farming, which needs to be abolished anyhow. We’d have a lot more vegans.
If that’s the side you’re coming from then I guess I can understand your argument. I was thinking from an animal welfare perspective, and the argument (which I’ve seen made before) that hunting is inhumane and that people should get their meat at the store instead.
As a side-note, I would really like a link to something backing up that people who hunt for food are more likely to be psychopaths.
Not hunting, hurting. But hunting is hurting.
Too lazy to write details. Please forgive the reddit link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askpsychology/comments/1fdvifa/why_do_psychopaths_torture_animals/
Holy false equivalency Batman. There is a vast difference between hunting and torturing animals. It is a case where intent and what that one approaches the task has a substantial bearing on the individual’s likelihood of anti-social personality disorder. An ethical hunter shows respect to the animal that they kill by doing their best to minimize suffering (this includes things like choice of weapon as well as ensuring that any game that they shoot it’s tracked down so that they didn’t suffer needlessly).
Do some people with anti-social personality disorder hunt? Yes. Some of them also eat at Wendy’s. You sound like you’re trying to invent a way to make yourself “better than” a large swath of people. I’d suggest that you practice some self-reflection.
I say this as someone who does not hunt but previously worked on a small poultry farm where I had to slaughter as well as euthanize animals. I’ve seen what good and bad quality of life does to animals. Ignoring the plight of factory farmed animals does not make you a better person.
Not sure I agree with the second take. Anyone that eats meat should be ethically required to take an animals life they will eat at some point so they directly know what it means to eat meat. If someone is uncomfortable with the thought of taking an animals life, why are they eating meat and paying someone else to do their dirty work?
I eat meat, but probably not as much as most people. I have butchered livestock and hunted in the past, taking an animals life is not a pleasant thing to do.
I have butchered livestock
I’m sorry you had to do that. It sounds traumatic.
Animals, especially mammals, have complex inner lives, families, and friends. They experience emotion. They play.
I don’t understand how people can look at that and be ok with killing it, and then not think the same thing about the stupider parts of humanity.
I guess people are just less delicious or something. No idea how else it’s justified.
I just don’t see something intrinsically immoral with killing an animal for food. Circle of life and all that. I don’t think anything should suffer unduly so factory farms are a real problem, and there’s an arbitrary line of intelligence/sociality that decides whether an animal is close enough to “personhood” that other principles are involved for me, but taking from nature with reverence and respect does not preclude hunting in my opinion.
Not exactly traumatic, but certainly not pleasant to look into somethings eyes and take it’s life. A lot of men pretend it’s a fun experience to be macho, but I think most people do not enjoy taking an animals life.
Now we’ll never know why it was crossing the road…
20 years ago I was driving on a 50mph road and there was this group of about 20 birds drinking water around a large puddle right on the side of the road.
Something spooked them just in the moment that I was driving by them. In that split second, they all swarmed right in front of my vehicle smashed into the side and front. As I looked back in the mirror through the feathers floating in the air, I could see at least six or seven birds injured on the road behind me. It made me sick to my stomach and I still have this image in my head years later haunting me.
I can’t imagine someone would do that on purpose.
It wasn’t your fault. You would have avoided it if you were able. Therefore it is not on your moral plate. Be at peace.
Thank you kind stranger.
I don’t think I would be a very impartial juror if I were on this case
You’d have to cross the road to get to court though.
