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    Disagreed, there are many shows that spend seasons building on the ending that if the ending is really bad, it makes the rest of the show feel pointless.

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      GoT comes to my mind with this. The whole show are these giant buildup to the war in the north, the dragons, Westeros power grabs, Jamie’s character arc, children of the forest, and other cool concepts that ended in a pathetic wet fart of a final season. It makes watching the show feel like a waste. when you know at the end its just a wet fart.

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        Having the white walkers built up as an unimaginable threat for the entire series only to be toppled by catapult Arya was the biggest wet-fart turd on a wagyu steak dinner.

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        Ugh why did you remind me of this? Grimm was such a good show only to just fucking nosedive right off a cliff one day.

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        Hah! My spouse loved that show, so we watched it together as it aired back then. I wasn’t interested in reading about the show online and such, so when “The End” appeared on our screen, we were both shocked! Wasn’t expecting that!

        We did rewatch season 1 recently which had some great moments, but gave up after that.

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    Really putting the “ass” in comparison there. Also, if a person say… wrote a best selling beloved children’s book series, but then heel-turned into a piece of shit, it absolutely does ruin their entire body of work for a lot of people.

    Like, this happens, what is the comic even talking about?

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      Context can certainly change over time. If Rudy Giuliani died in 2002, he’d be remembered as ‘America’s Mayor’.

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        How cruel a joke it must be for a God to create beings that crave consistency in a universe where the only consistent thing is change.

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      Really feels like the comic artist wrote ‘died like an idiot’ to argue against himself in bad faith from the get go

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    If a show tells you it’s building to something, then fails to deliver, it has disrespected all the time and effort invested.

    See:

    Lost
    Battlestar Galactica
    How I Met Your Mother

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      Or when it ends on a cliffhanger just to get canceled. That really ruins how I feel about a show.

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            i ignore the non-canon novels. according to an interview with the writers/showrunners, sga was suppose to have a big bad in season 6, one of the advanced races that have been hiding from the wraith that wier mentioned while stuck in “ghost in the machine”, one of them being the aliens in the deadalus variation that looks like the “borg/wraith” hybrid and that ship. Some of them did go on starget subreddit and comment occasionally though.

            SGU was more recent, so they went on that sub, and said the 3rd season was going to have goodies, like the race that created the drones, apparently the writers were alluding it to the novus colonies that did it, so humans. plus the planet builder ALIENS were going to have more lore in it too.

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      bsg was wierd because the showrunner forgot about the series, and wanted on the ill fated caprica, plus him being a mormon made the whole show wierd, because he wanted a GOD-centric(think any other shows with angels/demons/god related material) ending to the show. the og series never had that kind of crap.

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      I personally, just ignore the ending, and appreciate the amazing time I had leading up to it. xD

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    Except that isn’t the same logic?

    A show’s ending is the culmination of its plotlines. A bad ending essentially invalidates all the plot development of the show.

    Similar logic applied to a human would be if someone spent all their life trying to cure cancer and told everyone about how they were about to release the cure to then, suddenly, abandon the project, destroy all research so no one else can use it, and fuck off to retire in Tahiti.

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    We absolutely do apply these to people. Kevin Spacey? Bill Cosby? Jeffrey Epstein? Jared Fogle? Joe Paterno? Louis CK? Chris Brown? P. Diddy? Harvey Weinstein? OJ Simpson?

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      Flip side, the guy that killed Hitler also caused the deaths of millions of people all over the world including approximately 6,000,000 jews. Like, his whole thing ended on a high note. Does that invalidate all of the bad beforehand?

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        Nah, you don’t get credit for suicide.

        But to your broader point, it takes a lot of work to right something that’s bad. Someone who has a troubled youth but does their time and spends years rehabilitating their image may be remembered for their later years, while someone who is a terrible person and then says something nice on their deathbed is likely to only be remembered for the bad.

        Tying back to the shower thought, a show can start out bad and get good (Star Trek TNG, Parks and Recreation,) but a show whose only good episode is the finale is unlikely to be remembered fondly.

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      What if your achievements are mediocre and your views conform to the most popular, for your whole life.

      Is that worthy of damnation?

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      This list is irrelevant. Most of these people’s lives didn’t end with their major controversies as the comic references.

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    Let’s say you build a bridge. You build the nicest on-ramp, you put the nicest lamp posts, the nicest pavement, and the most beautiful railings in the history of bridges. And the bridge ends on a cliff. There might be some nice views on top of the bridge to nowhere, but it’s a bridge to nowhere.

    That’s a work of fiction with a bad ending. A work of fiction is a work, not a person, so where it leads to is very much an integral part of the work.

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    I think both “the show had 5 great seasons but a terrible ending” is as bad as “the show has 3 bad seasons but the last 2 are great!” are equally bad and reasons that I would not watch something.

    It’s not like there aren’t hundreds of other options.

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      Babylon 5 was a great show… with this caveat:

      1. Season 1 is slow and you won’t know how important it is until you watch 2, 3, 4.

      2. Season 4 is the single best season of sci fi television ever produced, but you have to have seen 2 and 3 to fully appreciate it.

      3. The reason Season 4 is amazing is because they didn’t know they were getting a Season 5 so they stuffed 2 seasons worth of television into 1.

      4. Then they got renewed for Season 5 by a different network and were like “Season 5… um… yeah! We totally have a plan for that… Yeah… totally ready to go.”

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      I guess I agree except The Good Place season 1 is a must watch. Later seasons fell off a bit and pushed my suspension of disbelief in places, but if you don’t care about the ultimate plot you can just watch S01 and call it a day.

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    I had been meaning to start Game of Thrones, but hearing that the ending sucks kind of killed all interest for me.

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      The problem with Game of Thrones is this:

      They ran out of material to adapt. They hit a wall where they ran out of books and had to adapt Martin’s PowerPoint slides, and it shows!

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        I think there was a lot more going on than that. Benioff and Weiss wanted out. They wanted to collect all their accolades and move on to fresh IPs. HBO was happy to give them more money and time to construct full-length seasons, but they chose to push the last two with shorter runs.

        I think if they had handed the show off to fresh showrunners ready to build on the existing plot threads and pacing of the show, we’d be looking back on it very differently.

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          Yeah. There are a lot of story beats that everyone knows GRRM would write (if he only cared to continue the series) and those story beats were in the show. They had enough material to work with, they simply chose to rush through all of it.

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    “Surely if I satirize people who trash my favorite show, it’ll make me feel better about how it took a shit at the end.”

    Was it Game of Thrones? If so, don’t worry, that’s not applicable either way,

    because

    it was always shit.