I realize there’s no singular answer for this, but many of the MAGA crowd attribute many of our current woes to the prior administration, like cost of living, inflation, unemployment rates, etc.
I’d imagine that every day that passes and we get more and more distant from Biden’s presidency, it gets a bit harder to blame him for every problem.
e.g. It’d be hard to blame many of the increased prices on electronics on him, since much of this has been driven by Trump’s tariffs (but I bet someone will attempt to refute this!)
This is a long-winded way of me asking the community, have you seen any Trump fans start to come around at all? When do we start living in the conditions (good or bad) of Trump’s America and stop laying blame on the last administration?
I’m interested to see what people of all persuasions feel about this.
For myself, I have seen some minor loss of enthusiasm among Trump followers, but I haven’t seen anyone register as a Democrat yet :)
He’s a narcissist. He never accepts responsibility, and everyone around him is too well paid/scared/enthralled to hold him responsible. He inspires totally devotion in his followers. He’s dodged multiple bullets. I can’t see him coming unstuck now
He will take accountability at the same moment the Austrian mustache man too accountability for the holocaust. That is, he will go to the grave never taking accountability.
many of the MAGA crowd attribute many of our current woes to the prior administration, like cost of living, inflation, unemployment rates, etc.
Funny, I always attributed it to the Reagan administration.
What, you think any of the stuff he said is expected by his base?
It was never about the stuff he said, it was about how you didn’t have an answer to it he couldn’t counter, so you lose and they win.
What you lose and they win about was never the issue, and there is no consequence to it beyond perhaps the opportunity of another argument they may have a harder time winning, but they know how to win arguments against you, so they’re not particularly worried.
Individuals with Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) typically struggle significantly with taking genuine accountability for their actions and the impact they have on others.
It sounds like you just want to know at what arbitrary amount of time trump gets the blame for Biden’s failings, even though they are Biden’s failings.
There are some things that will always be the Biden admin’s fault, like the rampant inflation and price increases that lead to the current cost of living crisis. That inflation and those increases of prices across the board haven’t gone away, and likely never will. The only way they do is by absolutely massive deflation, or a depression in other words.
Something that cost $5 in 2021 should only cost $5.50 or so now if inflation didn’t go crazy, but instead it costs $8 because of the Biden admin. Trump can’t “fix” that. The only ways are a depression, which would be seen as a failure even though it’s what’s needed, or for real wages for every person in the country to skyrocket 30% more than inflation, without causing extreme inflation, which isn’t possible.
The tariffs are a risk, for sure - but the goal of them is to make things cheaper after a bit of short term pain as countries reduce their tariffs on US products to below where they were before to make the USA reduce their tariffs back to what they were, because the countries can’t survive without US exports. It’s a negotiating tactic, and it’s already worked with a lot of countries. The big one still in the air is China, but it’s showing good signs.
He seems to disagree that it can’t be fixed:
“Starting on Day 1, we will end inflation and make America affordable again,” he said at a campaign event in August.
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-inflation-economy-biden-rcna192015
Inflation is currently at the lowest it has been since the first 2-3 months of Biden’s term.
In America and prettyuch worldwide. Inflation was a result of both Trump and Biden policies during covid and similar government policies worldwide. Not to mention, the pandemic itself. Trump didn’t get inflation under control. He’s risking a recurrence.woth tariffs.
I didn’t say that trump got it under control, just that it is under control now while it was out of control at almost all time highs during Biden’s term.
Ok, so lies by omission. If you’re playing semantics rather than good faith discussion at this point, it’s clear you don’t have a point to make.
I wish you the economy you voted for.
You came at me saying I said something I didn’t. You’re the one not having a good faith discussion.
He’ll never take accountability. He has to be held accountable, which will also never happen.
Donald Trump has not been held accountable by anyone since his father died. Even when he was convicted of felony paperwork violations, his punishment was to get elected President (again!).
He also raped someone and it was proven in a court of law.
Straight to the Oval Office!!!
Never.
He literally said “I think the good parts are the Trump economy, and the bad parts are the Biden economy.” Even the interviewer said nothing about it. If he ever sees accountability, it’ll be after a lot more suffering on our part.
The blame needs to be placed squarely on capitalism and not a specific person. It’s capitalism that’s fucking us, government is the legislative arm of capitalism. Edit sp
Oh, there are two simple answers to this:
- He will NEVER accept accountability for his actions. If he feels like it, he’ll eat a live baby on TV and walk away untroubled.
- He will be held accountable when (and ONLY when) the people hold him accountable.
He will never stop until he is in jail or dead. And the same is true for most of his sycophant followers.
There will never be real accountability in a two party system
The most likely answer is it’ll happen when he finally pisses off his own minions enough. He’s more likely to die, before he’ll see any kind of real punishment for anything.
Now that he’s about to rob several millions of people of basic needs being met, maybe things will start moving
Trump and accountability mix together as well as oil and water.
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