• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    This is going to be even worse if/when Musk and trump dismantle Social Security. The adult middle class will collapse entirely when their seniors will lose their homes and food, and their children are still at home because they can’t afford to live on their own.

    Couple this with smaller family sizes, this could mean two single child adults might have to support four living senior citizens (both sets of parents) while also raising children of their own.

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      17 days ago

      This is called the sandwich generation (when you have to take care of both adults and kids on your own). It’s a thing!

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        17 days ago

        Yeah, my mom grew up in a house with her parents and a grandparent of two. And her cousin. That was the 60s and 70s. Guess we’re bringing it back!

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          17 days ago

          to be fair, multigenerational homes are more common than not in a lot of places and it has little to do with monetary status. America has stigmatized this because it’s more lucrative to make everyone pay for things independently

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      18 days ago

      I fucking feel this.

      I’m in a situation where in my family I’m the one who’s going to be taking care of my parents as they get older because my only sibling (older) is entirely unreliable and financially unstable.

      Then my fiance is ALSO being expected to take up that responsibility because all her siblings went and had 2-4 kids and “can’t afford” or “won’t have time” to help take care of her mother who is already aging.

      So we’re having to plan ahead as 25 and 30 year olds to be able to help and support 3 elders. This basically defaults us to not being able to have kids.

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        17 days ago

        My girlfriend is taking care of her parents with her father having a couple of weeks to live and her mother being so anxious that she can’t be trusted to take care of him (give him morphine, start preparing a second dose thinking she didn’t give him his dose yet, change his fentanyl patch and doesn’t remove the old one)… Her sisters are pretty much nowhere to be found, as if their boyfriends were unable to take care of the kids for one fucking evening.

        They’ll let their father die a painful death without seeing him, but at least they will have enjoyed the last few days of the ski season!

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          17 days ago

          Fuck thats grim. I assume home nursing is not a financial possibility? I’m really sorry to hear about yours and hers situation.

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        17 days ago

        Then my fiance is ALSO being expected to take up that responsibility because all her siblings went and had 2-4 kids and “can’t afford” or “won’t have time” to help take care of her mother who is already aging.

        Your fiance’s siblings are stupid for turning down the free live-in childcare.

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          17 days ago

          An elderly person verging on disabled and one day probably will be, also with what looks like developing early onset dementia probably doesn’t make for good childcare

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            17 days ago

            Someone with dimensia is great for occupying a toddler/young child though! When I visited some family my at the time 3 year old and my grandmother and her sister in law spent 2 hours setting the table because they kept having to re-count how many people they have, how many places they have set, and kept confusing each other and having to get it all straight again. They all seemed to enjoy the time together and it was fun to watch it all unfold

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              17 days ago

              I appreciate you trying to find the silver lining but holy fuck that’s very late stage capitalism and grim on its own. “Just let your dementia-afflicted elders care for your children, they have pretty much the same cognitive function!”

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    16 days ago

    in my country, the oligarchs already took retirement away for the younger generations. there was talk here and there by the fascists to remove it for everyone. i don’t think they would afford to lose their numerous older supporters, but they discarded plenty of them during covid so who knows.

    worldwide trend, regardless of the truthfulness of the pasta here.

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    17 days ago

    At what point is it stopped being called capitalism and start being called slavery again?

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      Well it’s not slavery - you still get paid.

      It’s just that everything you’re paid and probably more will get sucked back into the economy to pay for necessities to live, and if you don’t make enough money to afford that then you die.

      But they aren’t killing you directly, so not the same thing.

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      Once we are living in Freedom Cities and essentially serfs without the protection of federal law.

      They are going to sabotage any people outside these city-states to force people to submit and live there as slaves rather than starve

      Look up Dark Enlightenment, and Network States. This is not conspiracy theory, the VP is vocally in favor of these ideas

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    17 days ago

    If it makes you feel any better, just think of all the libs that have been owned.

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    17 days ago

    I bought a 4 plex apartment building, hoping it can pay itself off before my parents and certain other indigent family members need it. I don’t want them moving in with me.

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      17 days ago

      People really fall for the “America used to be great” propaganda, huh?

      Did no one learn anything in middle school history? We definitely covered ✨the 1900s✨, which featured multiple world wide depressions/ressessions that the US was not exempt from, two world wars where millions of people died, the great dust bowl and famine, and plenty of corruption. Most of which happened just before or during our grandparents lives. It’s not like we’re talking about the colonial era of this continent or something.

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        At least part of my education starting at the turn off the century, we were taught these things happened but that once they were over it was a solved problem, never to happen again.

        For me there was a narrative that post 1950 the US was the pinnacle of humanity, the best place on earth. Cold war, Vietnam, Korea, all things on the other side of the world from our walled garden. Civil rights was just a few people in the south having disagreements and 9/11 was either swept under the rug or passed off as some dumb dirty Arab who was irrationally angry and lashed out.

        It took me moving to the big bad city for college, where I was supposed to be shot every 5 minutes and robbed of everything including the clothes on my back, to have that world view crack enough to begin questioning what I was told. When I did, I was instantly ostracized from my rural upper midwest hometown and became barely tolerated by my family.

        The blinders are very real and it’s too easy to ignore uncomfortable truths