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      Right, each time I see this picture pop up, it’s like the words barge and dredging don’t exist. Like this thing is seen as some damn cast away raft or some shit. This is fine. It’s just different.

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        If you showed a picture of a standard tower crane to someone with a decent understanding of physics but had never seen one before, they would similarly recoil and go “WTF why are you suspending a bunch of concrete blocks high in the sky on what looks like a pencil thin beam!” and it would take some explaining, OR it would take seeing it regularly for that person to become okay with it.

        People don’t see this every day, so they don’t take it for granted, and therefore it looks insane. Just like tower cranes look insane.

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          Looks like it’s going to pick up Seattle’s Space Needle. Quite insane. /c/confusingperspective

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        I’m familiar with both of those words. Ok also familiar with the idea of a lever-arm, and this one is too long for my sense of safety.

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          Most of the weight is at the bottom and you have to have the center of mass go outside of the base to tip over.

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    I get that it looks risky, but I don’t really see a problem here. The platform is in undisturbed water, no waves, no sudden changes. If the platform is strong enough, which it seems to be to me, it will not easily tip over.

    I’ve worked on a few lifts like that, and if you manage to tip one over I can only say that you were either really stupid or you were trying to do it. All the weight is at the bottom. They are very stable.

    The only way to make them fall over is if your floor is not level while driving. Driving is out of the question in this picture, and as long as both guys stay in the fork lift the center of gravity will not change much.

    So the platform will not move, the lift will not move, basically they are fine.

    If something was to happen you’re fucked though.

    And different solutions are available. I’ve personally been in a different lift that had an arm so the lift would be a the side of the pool and the part where I was standing was elevated above the water. That probably would be a better solution, if you have enough space to get one of those lifts in.

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      Ok I’ll take this as my opportunity to rant about a pet peeve.

      Wearing a harness in this style of elevating work platform is more dangerous than not wearing one, and having a requirement to do so is part of what’s wrong with work health and safety.

      The only way someone falls out of this, beyond mechanical failure or tipping, is if they lean so far over the railing they fall out of it.

      If I need to wear a harness in this, you need to wear one whenever you walk next to a balcony.

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        Nobody is going accidentally bump your balcony with a forklift or any other equipment.

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        What? At any job I’ve had you’d be required to harness into something on the ceiling. So if the lift gave out, you’d just dangle there until you got rescued.

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      The other issue is when I chuck a stupendous peg-leg bombie next to their aqua-franken-scissor-tower.

      Surfs up mfs.

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      Mostly just because they aren’t wearing a harness that attaches to designated connection points on the ceiling because they are working over a platform instead of directly water.

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    If they had a short pole underwater in the middle of the belly of floating platform then it would be more stable than my 95 yo granny at 3 am on her way to the toilet

    No idea how it works exactly but the sailing boats have it so to not capsize easily or at all. It actually takes great deal effort to crash the sailing boat on its side, these fuckers can go 90 degrees under heavy wind and still come back like a spring though no promise the people will be still onboard.

    It’s kind of fun actually to sail almost 90 degrees on the side but scary.

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      those sailing boat keels are lead-filled (at least at the bottom) and hydrodynamic so that the force of the running water pushes it back to center. it’s a lot easier to capsize a boat like that when it’s not moving.

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        There are centreboards (not lead-filled) that use the movement of the boat to counteract leeward drift and there are are lead-filled keels that in addition to that also act as a counterweight to reduce rolling. If it’s lead-filled it’ll be hard to capsize, if it’s just a centreboard you can easily capsize it if it’s not moving (and use the centreboard as a lever to recover it afterwards).

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        Maybe so but a boat isn’t submerged flatly like the square span of this floaty thing on the picture. If it also had some pole thingy underwater we can’t see then I wouldn’t be surprised people felt ok climbing this machinery

        Additionally if it’s like filled with air, empty inside, then it would be really hard to capsize this thing at all because of how it refuses to sink from any corner or side

        It’s not as dramatic as it looks is my point, looks funny but actually it’s probably pretty safe because we under appreciate the lifting force of floaty shit filled with air. Boats need to be hydrodynamic so they are naturally more prone to shenanigans like a barrel on the water would be but this square thing is dedicated to sole task of not capsizing with great resistance to being submerged at any point of itself

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          For me, the problem is that, given that the mat is OBVIOUSLY flexible, it seems nigh impossible to securely tie down so that the torque when extended doesn’t force the mooring lines out of place.

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    The only people thinking this looks too risky are the same people who don’t understand why ships float and planes fly. They don’t understand the natural sciences.

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      This looks like a management photo op death trap to me. I’m not worried about a scissor jack being used on a flat floating surface in a pool, it’s that it isn’t secured to anything at all that really seems non OSHA compliant here. I just have really strong personal ethics about not eating shit 12+ feet off the ground in an hourly position. now IF the floatation device is rated for this use, and it’s actually secured in place, sure, fine, but that’s not what’s happening.