it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?
What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.
I dont think this is the right website to ask this on. This became a post to hate on usa conservatives, not to genuinely answer the question
Edit: replaced us with usa to avoid confusion
Are you sure you mean conservatives or do you just label fascists, reactionarys, nazis and anything that isnt “left” as "conservative?
Well the conservatives are fascists right now so that’s a pretty easy connection to make.
Then the conservatives arent conservative anymore. They are fascist, so please call them that :)
Fascism is a conservative ideology, so they are both.
No. Facism is not in the same league as conservatism. I should know. People of my country got inspired by fascism, started their own thing aaand ww2 and holocaust
Fascism is at the far end of social conservatism. This is not something that can be argued.
This is a, “all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares” thing. All fascists are conservative, by definition. But (typically) not all conservatives are fascist.
To cripple the US so it is no longer a threat to Russia, and they can move in to “reclaim” all those Baltic nations and maybe even cop the EU.
Not just Russia. Any kind of meaningful restraint on multinational corps & billionaires requires international cooperation, or the entity just changes the region where it stores/performs/recognizes whatever thing.
I think we’re gonna learn the hard way its actually not okay to let corporations become more powerful than most nations.
To create the enemy without.
You would likely get an answer akin to “they aren’t our allies, they’ve been exploiting us and now that the bill is due they are flaking”
there’s no republicans on lemmy lol
The point?
I see it like this.
Profit profit profit at the expensive of all Americans for 4 years.
The next 4 years let Democrats clean up the mess, Democrats are weak anyway.
Then milk the American people again for another 4 years. The cycle is nonstop.
This is malicious greed but everyone keeps thinking these people are idiots.
thier ally is PUTIN, thats all they need. ive seen them shill hard for putin, one asians youtubers acc, have been shilling for rich white people and russia see the common thing, before they went full maga.
“What’s the point?” The point is to seize power and get rich.
They will destroy whatever they want or need in order to become rich and powerful.
and to deliever america (and greenland and canada) to russia, for their master Putin.
I don’t even think the majority of American conservatives are on board with most of what’s happening anymore.
SomeLike almost half are, but they’re especially stupid and usually ideologically oriented to Trump rather than to the traditional brand of US conservatism.The traditional conservatives are suspiciously quiet right now, so I count them as fully complicit.
To be fair to them though, they did just get comprehensively voted out from everywhere. They don’t have a single majority to make any difference to anything. If I were them I’d be sitting back with a large bowl of popcorn going “yal’l voted for this, or at least didn’t vote against it, hope you enjoy getting the full force of this orange idiot right in the face”. But from the headlines I’ve read it would appear they’ve had a few things to say about Fart’s latest hot smelly air.
That is factually untrue. They did not get voted out everywhere and it is somewhat silly to say so.
House: R- 218, D- 215 Senate: R- 53, D- 47
That is what I call a fair fight.
Your position is indefensible.
I did a bit of maths at school and I know 218>215, and 53>47.
That is what I call a minority in both places. If all D get together and say “no”, and all R get together and say “yes”, then where a simple majority is required it’ll be an R victory. Any D victory will need some Rs to either swing (and likely get fired), or abstain. Of course if a 2/3 majority is needed for something then R will need some D support to get it through.
They’d still rather stay silent than break with Trump and ally with leftists. To be really fair, they deserve no fucking credit whatsoever.
they’re especially stupid
You know, I always try to avoid thinking that people with different opinions to mine are “stupid”, but it’s getting more and more difficult to credit republicans with being reasonable.
While I have no issue with Republicans being shunned for their unashamed fascism, it does mean threads like this are essentially pointless because almost none will actually participate and the ones who do will be downvoted into oblivion.
And dont forget, we are on Lemmy. Everything that’s somewhat conservative gets bullied out quite fast. C/conservative started as a legit community and got turned into a meme community. I think this speaks for itself.
My general dislike for modern conservatism to the side, it does reflect a wider issue with lemmy. There is no diversity of opinion on anything. There are no niche communities. Either you like the political and tech subs and the meme subs which are, at a mininum, 60% political, or there really is nothing for you here.
The manga and anime subs can be good for keeping up with new releases, but not there’s next to no actual discussion.
There’s absolutely diversity of opinion, I see trans and Tankie arguments pretty frequently.
What is generally true is the majority of Lemmy users seem to lean left and are generally more techy, makes sense given the main reasons why you’d seek out the fediverse vs a centralized social media.
I disagree with a ton of stuff, but Ive already been banned from one community so for the most part I keep it civil. I haven’t had much issue arguing against the common opinion here besides the down votes, but I see downvoted comment chains all the time so I’m not as concerned they will be hidden.
There’s a lot of diversity of opinion between leftists and liberals. Generally speaking, conservatives don’t contribute anything and drag down the quality of debate because they are openly anti-intellectual, and their presence also drives away people who are actually worth having. The only thing that would happen if there were more conservatives on here would be more cable news tier screaming matches and more verbal attacks on minorities. Liberals still only want to talk and think at a cable news level, but at least they aren’t openly hateful and anti-intellectual.
People are more likely to change their minds or have productive conversations when they approach a topic from the same basic values and beliefs about the world, like if two people agree on the goal of uplifting the global proletariat, they can discuss how best to go about it, but if one person’s goal is to uplift the global proletariat and the other’s is, idk, to drop minorities out of helicopters, then both are just going to be screaming at each other. Not only that, but if two people are discussing how to uplift the poor while the other guy’s in the room, it’s going to have a negative effect on their ability to do so, because they’ll constantly have to worry about everything they say getting attacked by dumb, right-wing arguments. Imagine two doctors trying to discuss the nuances of their profession in the same room as an antivax nutjob.
Yeah now try being absolutely unknowledgeable when it comes to tech and very much into makeup, skincare, 90 day fiance and parenting content. Lemmy, it’s been nice, but after one and a half years I started lurking to Reddit every once in a while again.
Lurking is fine. I wouldn’t bother creating an account. Reddit is bot-moderated now. It’s been a real shitshow and it’s not really worth having an account anymore.
I’ve definitely thought about trying to get back onto Reddit once I get a computer they don’t recognize.
It sucks that niche things like that haven’t picked up yet, however be the change you want to see, create a community and invite like minded people to post there.
I think the biggest barrier of entry is that people don’t understand it, and they’re not going to until they try in all honesty.
Not a Republican. I assume Trump is making backroom personal deals to get the world’s politicians and businesses to bribe him in some way. Aligns with how he seems to operate with everything else.
Business leaders can pay $5mil to have a candlelit dinner with Trump so I’m not sure how backroom these deals really are lol
The president is a Russian asset
Do you think there are many republicans on this site?
Trump treats his friends in Europe like America usually treats Middle Eastern and African nations.
The Orange Turd thinks the S in BRICS is not South Africa but Spain so…
Not surprising. when “Trump’s defence chief pick cannot name a single ASEAN country”
Their feeling, or at least the way their leaders are telling them to feel, is that America is the world’s Daddy and our “so-called” allies are leeching off us like no-good adult children who still live at home and eat all the Nutella, so we have to shake them off to be Great Again.
