• Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    “I” is the most genderless pronoun in existence - is it not? It literally means me, as a singular human entity. Linguistically I am yet to see any valid argument for its exclusion or substitution in speech. I get the whole problem with he/her etc - there are a specific niche of humans where those words are not sufficient nor apt to describe them and thankfully language then evolved for the sake of inclusivity.

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        2 months ago

        If Noel calls themself Noelself then Noel is not using a pronoun but rather Noel is referring to Noelself in the third person - and unnecessarily cluttering-up a sentence.

        But, fuck Noel’s life, that’s just Noel’s opinion.

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          2 months ago

          And… forgive me for saying so, but they’re tedious, at best. That’s not punching down on anyone’s identity. It’s a commentary on how such neologisms make parsing a sentence far less reflexive and a good bit more unnecessarily arcane, without actually communicating any level of additional meaningful information or context.

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            2 months ago

            It’s quite easy, when you read “drag”, it means “I”, that’s literally the extent of it.

            But let’s dig into this a little. Your argument covers literally half of all words. Let’s take this comment as an example, we want to strip everything out of it that doesn’t communicate.

            Tedious. No insult, but. Many words make sentence long, add no value.

            No one adheres to this because it makes you sound like a damn caveman. But if you feel so strongly about this, that’s how you prune all the unnecessary cognitive load from your speech.

            But if replacing one meaningless pronoun with another meaningless pronoun is so arcane that you can’t parse the meaning of the sentence afterward, there’s always the option of just not engaging with it. It doesn’t harm you or anyone else and it isn’t hate speech so just let people express themselves how they want to.

            I also find Picasso’s cubist paintings to be tedious to look at but you don’t see me trying to tell him that he’s painting The Weeping Woman the wrong way.

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      2 months ago

      Drag knows a lot of nonhumans and decided to choose a first person pronoun for a dragon rider. After all, dragon riders aren’t entirely human. The magical bond changes us. And a dragon rider is no longer a single individual. Not in battle, not in soul. Drag is soulbound.

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        I’m reminded of a few nonhumans whom I know!

        They’re called cats, and they similarly eat a lot of plastic.

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            We all eat plastic these days, it’s the modern thing to do, like huffing lead in days of yore.

            Who’s to say it’s dumb? I am not one to presume. Besides, my cats are really smart. They catch moths and everything. Please don’t refer to my kitties as dumb…that hurts my feelings

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        Are we really going to let playing into complete delusion be part of the ethics that shape left wing progressive culture and politics?

        We all know this user does not ride or fuck* or magically bond with a fucking dragon. It’s not something we should “respect”.

        *(u/dragonfucker@lemmy.nz is their actual username, “Dragon Rider (drag)” is just a display name.)

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          https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/delusions

          Delusions are false ideas or beliefs that someone holds onto, even when there is evidence that they are not real. These beliefs are not shared by other people from the same:

          • cultural background
          • religion
          • social group

          Not a delusion. Believing in dragons is completely normal in drag’s cultural background, religion, and social group. If you like, drag can refer you to a few discord servers for dragonkin - otherkin who identify as dragons. Drag can also introduce you to @HonouraryDragon@lemmy.nz, drag’s fiance and dragon.

          The alternative to respecting cultural beliefs is cultural intolerance. You’re arguing for cultural intolerance to be part of the ethics of the left. Drag thinks that’s gross.

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              Drag’s dragon doesn’t identify as male, and wouldn’t like being called a bro. Drag thinks you called a nonbinary person a “bro” for the same reason you don’t respect its species identity - you’re a conservative. You don’t get to have any input on leftist ideas until you stop misgendering trans people.

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                I get to advocate for social safety nets and general welfare at the cost of the rich as much as I want regardless of how little acceptance I have for delusional scalies.

                This should not define left wing politics.
                You should be allowed by the rest of this userbase to define left wing politics with this nonsense.
                If you are the left wing, the left wing loses the majority forever.

                The progressive movement was supposed to be a realistic movement, without the delusions of religion.
                But you lot managed to co-opt the culture of the progressive movement into accepting all kinds of alternative forms of idiocy, but this otherkin shit is arguably less annoying than astrology’s rampant infection of feminism.

                Our movement is crippled by insanity. Our contemporaries are nothing like our predecessors. We are significantly worse.
                Less capable, less intelligent, less successful.

                I hope for our sake it’s the fucking microplastics, because if we managed to fuck this up so bad without suffering from some poison, if it’s completely our own fault, then that’s just fucking sad.

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                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

                  The DSM-IV and psychologists agree that personal beliefs should be evaluated with great respect to cultural and religious differences, as some cultures have normalized beliefs that may be considered delusional in other cultures.[15]

                  https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder

                  A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and almost everyone else knows this belief to be false.

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539855/

                  A delusion is a fixed false belief based on an inaccurate interpretation of an external reality despite evidence to the contrary. The belief is not congruent with one’s culture or subculture, and almost everyone else knows it to be false.

                  https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/conditions/delusional-disorder

                  Delusions are fixed beliefs that do not change, even when a person is presented with conflicting evidence. Delusions are considered “bizarre” if they are clearly implausible and peers within the same culture cannot understand them.

                  You can’t appeal to being “realistic” while you deny science by calling cultural beliefs delusions. You are denying science. Drag has explained the science to you. If leftism is going to do what you say, it will have to leave science behind. And that’s wrong.

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                    We seem to have found the crux of it, this is how you convince yourself.

                    I have little sympathy for you on this one.
                    You just have a weird, unimportant problem.

                    I have some sympathy, I think you’ll need a friend when you crash out of it.