So they raped them?
Now more than ever should be a good time for anyone who hasn’t done it yet to watch Schindler’s List. I think everyone should watch this movie. Boring historical facts and statistics do not convey it the way the movie does.
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His argument is that Palestinians are outright evil. The logic is that not all Germans were Nazis, some helped Jewish prisoners. Nothing like that happened from Palestinians when the hostages were imprisoned by Hamas.
Statistically this is a weak argument, but his point was not what the headline suggests.
This. I think it doesn’t help to make up shit about him. This only helps with his tale of the woke mob that don’t want freedom of speech.
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There were people showing love to jews in Nazi Germany. He didn’t mean the nazis were showing love by killing the jews and if you read what he said you know that.
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and the Ukrainians who liberated us from the death camps were the real assholes. probably
Soviet forces?
So yes. But also it’s a little more nuanced than that. Out of necessity the red army was divided into units of language groups because it wasn’t wholly homogenized in 1944/45. The units in the northern portion of the eastern front were primarily Russian, and the units in the southern portion of the eastern front were primarily Ukrainian. The treatment of the Jews released from the death camps by Russian and Ukrainian units were different. Being released by a Russian group was a short path to other forms of political imprisonment because a major aspect of the Soviet project was the elimination of religion, where as the Ukrainian units fought tooth and nail to liberate us, largely because Jewish-Poles and Ukrainians are deeply interconnected people beyond the newly established Soviet state. It would be like if Buffalo, NY and Toronto, ON were both under threat of invasion by Michigan, and Michigan was planning to kill every man, woman, and child in Toronto with curly hair. Buffalo and Toronto might not always get along, but when push comes to shove, they share history and culture through food and music. Meanwhile, Manhattan might have some things in common and will work toward a common goal, but it’s not as important an investment for them
Aha! Thank you for clarifying. I get why Russia would like to do away with religion by and large, even if I no longer agree with those reasons. The methodology was always troublesome to me but Jesus, not even re-education (yes, that was poorly done too, unsure how much was deliberate and how much was lack of resources) and
straight to execution? I need to read more from a variety of sources.Edit: apologies, I misremembered your original wording. I’ve read too much of political madness, recently.
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It was a bit of a rhetorical question I think. The quote was a bit difficult to read and it took me a couple tries to get it
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said
To detrumpify / reiterate, because reading what Trump says always feels like a stroke even if you’re not experiencing one:
How “Germany” treated Jews, showing signs of love like:
- Gave them ‘help’
- Liked them
- Winking
- Gave extra bread sometimes
- Gave extra meals sometimes
How Hamas treated hostages:
- Not as well as Nazis
Good lord. Apparently Auschwitz was a hot bed of *checks notes* undesired winking? /s
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he supposedly asked that to the hostages, about hamas. he asked “was there any sign of love, like what happened in germany?”. unless you know another german story involving jewish prisoners, he meant the nazis.
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Honestly, at this point I’m convinced that it’s AIPAC that is still spreading the meme that disillusioned Palestinians and their supporters cost Kamala the election. The really pro Palestine leftists are the type to either never participate in electoral politics anyway, or were strategic enough to vote for Kamala. Trump won because white middle America voted for him, not due to a handful of student protesters. I think AIPAC is still pushing the “Palestine protesters lost Kamala the race” as a means of making the Palestinian cause more unpopular. And frankly, it’s working. Any story on Gaza will have people gleefully celebrating it
I think AIPAC is still pushing the “Palestine protesters lost Kamala the race”
If AIPAC is pushing this narrative, it could backfire spectacularly. An alternate way to phrase this is “Kamala’s support for Israel cost her the election.”
Do you really think some white middle class middle Americans that only vaguely care about Palestine weren’t moved a notch against voting for Harris? There was percentage of them that was demotivated by a straw that broke the camels back.
Or more significantly that young new voters weren’t moved in this direction by pro-palestinian tiktok?
Sure, I wouldn’t put all the blame on that, but some of the blame goes there.
Also I fucking hate Leftists who “never vote” anyway so fuck them regardless.
And why would you assume there aren’t some pro-Zionist Democrats that voted for Kamala BECAUSE of her stance on Gaza? Every decision a campaign makes both gains and loses them votes.
I think the issue, in terms of its effects on the election, is largely a trivial matter that’s been blown way out of proportion, largely by AIPAC itself. I just don’t think there’s a very large population that cares about Palestinian issues that wouldn’t also vote vote for the optimal outcome for Gaza. Are there some? Sure. But I’m incredibly suspicious of anyone pushing the narrative that this had a substantial effect on the election. We’re talking about people educated enough on world affairs to care passionately about the plight of a small population on the other side of the planet, but also ignorant enough to go and vote for Donald Trump? How many people do you think actually meet both of those qualifications? It’s a tiny rounding error.
It seems like a disinformation campaign by AIPAC intended to sour the public on the rights of Gazans. The people who care about Gaza are primarily on the left side of the political spectrum. What better way to alienate the American left to the plight of the Gazans than to convince people on the left that the Gaza issue cost Kamala the election? The whole thing absolutely wreaks of an Israeli propaganda campaign.
If it’s not an AIPAC campaign, it’s largely just a self-serving story on the part of white voters. Trump won because white people voted overwhelmingly in favor of him. Even the concentration of Muslims in Michigan is completely irrelevant, as Trump would have won without winning Michigan. If it’s not an Israeli intelligence operation, blaming Kamala’s loss on Palestinians is ultimately just subtly veiled racism.
The numbers bear this out. Muslim voters voted for Kamala 46% to 43%. White voters voted for Trump 56% to 40%. Muslims voted for Harris at far higher rates than white people did.
Blaming Arabs and Muslims for Harris’s loss is just a way of scapegoating a racial and religious minority group. Trump won because white people overwhelmingly voted for him. Everything else is a rounding error. It’s just plain old racism, nothing more.
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so thats what nazis called the gas eh. can we get trump some of that love?
Only time I will ever say this but, I hope Trump gets the love he deserves. I only wish endless love for Trump.
Heh. We want mercy for ourselves and “justice” for our neighbors. That’s what’s wrong with the world.
ha, theres no mercy in the u.s. the richest country in the world cant afford to solve for homelessness, hunger, education or racism
in the untied states justice means ‘revenge’.
It starts with individual attitude shifts, you know? If I was reared this way, and continued for another 3 decades and can make the shift, pretty much anyone can. The idea is not to shift back. While society and media seek to make it extremely difficult, it’s still very, very possible. Mandela had the right idea in not seeking revenge.
I wish I could agree with you. But mercy and lack of revenge the first time around is what brought us here today. Post civil war Reconstruction was far, far too kind to the people who thought they were entitled to owning the lives of other human beings.
Pollution doesn’t stay where we send it, literal or figurative. Weakness seeks to control others. Strength is calming our own inner beasts. Good luck friend.
??? We want mercy for our sorry lives full of procrastination and justice for the mas murderers.
So much love. The most love. Bigly love even. He’s going to have so much love, he won’t know where to put it all. He’ll have so much love, it’ll be hard to breathe. Suffocated by all that tariff free American love.
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I’m no expert on this topic, but you should keep in mind that Netanyahu’s government is extremely right wing. These types of wannabe dictators only care about themselves.
Also, it benefits him if Jewish people can’t feel safe outside Israel. “Us vs. them” is a powerful tool to keep his people in check.
The Nazis sent Jews to Palestine themselves.
Bibi and his ilk don’t see a problem with the Holocaust. It happened to lesser people - people too poor to get out. (If you dig deep, sometimes you can find some racial tensions too - Ashkenazi vs Sephardic, claims about who Gods chosen people are that are cousins to the claims made by the White Identity movement. Or if you’ve ever met a “Cohen” that is very aware of what that name is supposed to mean….)
what surprises me more is that Netanyahu seems to be fine with it?
see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herzl’s_Mauschel_and_Zionist_antisemitism and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism
The far right in Israel doesn’t care about the Holocaust. They literally view people who died in it as weaklings who didn’t deserve to live, and survivors as cowards who should have gone down fighting.
Why are you surprised?
These horrible zionists are also 100% fascists, always had good relations with fascists, used and sacrifised jews before and during WW2 to obtain their own fascist state.
Full quote though it’s not really any better:
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
I always knew about the gaschambers, but never really thought about how it was done, until I saw this video recently
It made me realize just how fucked up these people where.
Visit a concentration camp someday if you get the opportunity
I visited auschwitz when I was 15 on a achool trip, the entire place felt very dark. But I was too young (and stupid) to really understand the horrors that happened at that place.
The first time I got chills from an animated YouTube video. Crazy to think that people who are OK with this still exist and walk among us.
And to think people still defend this muppet
