Apparently I’m now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler.

For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists.

The Ban:

The Context:

  • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    626·
    7 days ago

    I even read the whole article and thus thought it regarded the school as a whole

    Closure

    In the early 1930s, the political situation for the tank school began to change. The Soviet Union opened itself to the West while Germany attempted a closer approach to France.[1]

    In December 1932, Germany achieved being viewed as an equal at the Geneva Conference, making the secret schools somewhat unnecessary. With the rise of the Nazis to power in January 1933, the ideological gap between fascist Germany and the communist Soviet Union became too large and the tank school at Kazan was closed in late 1933

    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
      131·
      7 days ago

      I’m honestly not sure what you mean. How does the article regarding the school as a whole factor into anything being discussed, or at all address how you were trying to present my arguments as lacking credibility because of an oversight in my citations based on a point I addressed in the same sentence?

      • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        319·
        7 days ago

        The main reason for my original comment was the following:

        They were close enough that the USSR even allowed the Nazis to run a tank training school […]

        Which again (intentionally or not) misrepresents historical fact. Weimar Germany was not at all the Third Reich…

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
          191·
          7 days ago

          This is a tedious and at-best-arguable semantic error on my part, since not only was it clearly in service of the future Nazi war machine (ex: Josef Harpe was a Nazi, and was one of the members of the school) and filled with then and future members of the Nazi party, the Nazis did run the school (and their rise to power lead to it’s dissolution, the complexities of which were my entire point).

          • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
            6·
            7 days ago

            That semantic error does obscure how the Nazis gaining power directly caused the USSR to terminate the program. Which unfortunately allows for the misinterpretation that the USSR started a tank school for the Nazi regime. They started it with Germany because both entities at the time saw a benefit to defying Versailles. The German Communist Party wasn’t yet outlawed and held like a quarter of the Reichstag at the time.

            The failed strategy of the USSR was to undermine the victors of WW1, and hoped the communist wings of Europe would prevail.

            They did not.

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
              41·
              7 days ago

              My point was that the situation surrounding the closure of the school was many-faceted. I appreciate you expanding upon that, though I fear you may have fallen into the same misunderstanding as they by fixating on your own interpretation of one phrase as critical, rather than the actual content of the message (that the complexity of the political motivations behind the creation and closure of the school was the reason I brought it up at all)

              • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
                5·
                7 days ago

                Yeah I wasn’t really disagreeing as pointing out how even such a semantic thing can lead to big misinterpretations given the complexity of the whole period.