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    Want to get petty? My country still holds a grudge because we married a princess of ours with our neighbouring country king, while they sent one theirs to marry with our king (so, for all practical purpouses, a hostage exchange).

    The only problem with it, was that our princess was gourgeous, while the princess sent here was ugly as stormy night.

    To this day, we still have a coloquial expression of despize where we literally say we gave sardine in return of hake.

    My country has sardine as a high value fish, since ever.

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      Canadian here.

      It’s a old enough wound to joke about.

      The tensions peaked in the 80s IIRC. But relarions have been steadily improving over the decades.

      Quebec no longer has the desire for full independence, so much as identity independence. Which they have.

      The joke in Canadian circles that Trump has made Quebec nationalistic in response, because only Quebec gets to destroy Canada.

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      Hating people based on how they’re born: 🤢

      Hating people because of the objectively inferior clothes they wear and inferior food they eat: 😊

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    Don’t forget religion and “whiteness” too!
    To be fair it is (was) actually racism by all definitions since French Canadians were not considered white until the seventies/eighties.

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      Fucking Fr*nch language polluting so many beautiful countries. The entirety of NATO too.

      If the summit is hosted in London, why write “Londres” too? We wouldn’t write “Paris/Paříž” just because one idiotic language has a different spelling. Some are even more stupid, such as “Venezia/Benátky”. And yes, I’m bashing on my own language but we are not nearly as entitled.

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          And what? I hate the Fr*nch language in Fr*nce, Canada and Switzerland too. All the frog-eating sounds and useless silent letters aside, the reason I hate its place in NATO especially is because the Fr*nch have requested special treatment despite being surrender-prone traitors who whined and almost left. Unlike Canada and Switzerland, NATO does not have a Fr*nch-speaking population significant enough to warrant special treatment. They are absolutely capable of understanding “NATO” and “London” like everyone else, they only request “OTAN” and “Londres” underneath because they’re whiny bitches. You might as well give it to every official language of a NATO country, which is what I did in this graphic I made of a “fair” NATO logo where everyone gets to be equally entitled as the Fr*nch:

          Extended NATO logo. There is still just one compass but the light/dark blue checkerboard pattern continues for 22 rows, and instead of NATO and OTAN, the following is written in the right half: ОСАД, SAA, NATO, ONAV, ΟΒΑΣ, OTAN, PALO, PAPL, ÉASzSz, AB, ONAT, ŠASO, ZALO, OSAS, NAVO, OTPA, DAB, OSAZ, SAPO, OTAV, NAFO, KAAÖ. See table below for list of languages and what the acronyms stand for.

          Acronym Title Language/Country
          ОСАД Организацията на Северноатлантическия договор bg Bulgarian 🇧🇬
          ОСАД Организација на Северноатлантскиот договор mk Macedonian 🇲🇰
          SAA Severoatlantická aliance cs Czech 🇨🇿
          NATO Nordatlantisk Traktat-Organisation da Danish 🇩🇰
          NATO North Atlantic Treaty Organization en English 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇨🇦
          Nato Den nordatlantiske traktats organisasjon no Norwegian 🇳🇴
          ONAV Organisation des Nordatlantikvertrags de German 🇩🇪🇱🇺🇧🇪
          ΟΒΑΣ Οργανισμός Βορειοατλαντικού Συμφώνου el Greek 🇬🇷
          OTAN Organización del Tratado del Atlántico Norte es Spanish 🇪🇸
          OTAN Organisation du traité de l’Atlantique nord fr Fr*nch 🇫🇷🇨🇦🇱🇺🇧🇪
          OTAN Organizzazione del Trattato dell’Atlantico del Nord it Italian 🇮🇹
          OTAN Organização do Tratado do Atlântico Norte pt Portugese 🇵🇹
          OTAN Organizația Tratatului Atlanticului de Nord ro Romanian 🇷🇴
          PALO Põhja-Atlandi Lepingu Organisatsioon et Estonian 🇪🇪
          PAPL Pohjois-Atlantin puolustusliitto fi Finnish 🇫🇮
          ÉASzSz Észak-atlanti Szerződés Szervezete hu Hungarian 🇭🇺
          AB Atlantshafsbandalagið is Icelandic 🇮🇸
          ONAT Organisatioun vum Nordatlantik-Traité lb Luxembourgish 🇱🇺
          ŠASO Šiaurės Atlanto Sutarties Organizacija lt Lithuanian 🇱🇹
          ZALO Ziemeļatlantijas Līguma organizācija lv Latvian 🇱🇻
          OSAS Organizacija Severnog Atlantičkog sporazuma me Montenegrin 🇲🇪
          OSAS Organizacija Sjevernoatlantskog sporazuma sh Croatian 🇭🇷
          NAVO Noord-Atlantische Verdragsorganisatie nl Dutch 🇳🇱🇧🇪
          OTPA Organizacja Traktatu Północnoatlantyckiego pl Polish 🇵🇱
          DAB Davvi-Atlántta bealuštuslihttu se North Sámi 🇳🇴
          OSAZ Organizácia Severoatlantickej zmluvy sk Slovak 🇸🇰🇨🇿
          SAPO Severnoatlantska pogodbena organizacija sl Slovene 🇸🇮
          OTAV Organizata e Traktatit të Atlantikut Verior sq Albanian 🇦🇱🇲🇰
          NAFO Nordatlantiska fördragsorganisationen sv Swedish 🇸🇪🇫🇮
          KAAÖ Kuzey Atlantik Antlaşması Örgütü tr Turkish 🇹🇷

          Do you get it now how ridiculous pushing multiple languages in the front can get? I’m all for acceptance of race and culture but huge multinational organizations should either pick one language or bear the difficulty of using all of them.

          • Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Oh sorry, I thought we were having an adult conversation without insulting countries. Sorry you hate the French. You must be full of joy.

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            whined and almost left

            This is called “havinge le backbone” in France, you should try it.

            French is an international language, and also, is the language of international jurisprudence, which more that warrants it’s use as a OTAN official language.

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        French has been the lingua franca of the world for years and still maintains that position in many serious environments, whereas english is more popular

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        I should say, they, unlike you, are entitled to being entitled.

        In the end, their language is used, and yours is not.

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          They are perfectly capable of understanding “NATO” and “London”, just as Czechs are perfectly capable of understanding “Venezia”. They can use their own words but no need to shove more than 1 language in people’s faces. And yes, I accept that the “1 language” can be French in organizations in mostly-francophonic places like Geneva and Montreal.

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              It’s practical to have just one for internal affairs, and it corresponds to the reality of the (especially North Western) world. English is the diplomatic language now and I can’t see a justification for the trouble of maintaining another as official in an organization, even those I like more (German ❤) or speak better (Czech). Yes, the French were “entitled to be entitled” in the 19th century but not really after 1940 and 1958.

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                In my experience, people that don’t like how German sounds can’t understand it. Once I started learning it, I found it to be quite pleasant.

                I believe this is the reason why you don’t like French, despite the fact it is a very beautiful language: you don’t speak it.

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                French is the international language of jurisprudence, hardly irrelevant. I quite like German myself, but that is hardly a reason to stop using French.

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    Liège… Oh no. No no no… What have you done liège? Why did you? I showed my wife all of the beautiful cities in Flanders. Then I said. Hey, let’s go to wallonia.

    Liège… Why? What is the reason? Why must you suck out the souls of any resident? Dystopia. The most beautiful part is the river. Because that’s the only part where cars cannot go.

    Why, liège?