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I’m Chaotic Evil. I’ve been watching IASIP since season 1 and could probably quote every line.
Fey and Poehler occupying the entire Lawful column is insane, and the truth.
Yes, Kenneth. :)
I wonder what actor has the most of these shows. Fred Armisen has done a character on the lawful column plus brooklyn 99. I wonder if someone out there has 5 or more.
Will Arnett was a regular in Arrested development and 30 rock and made an appearance in Parks & Rec and The Office. And apparently voiced “Kitty” in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
I didn’t think I actually watch a lot of TV, but fuck me, I’ve seen pretty much every episode of every one of these shows, minus Brooklyn 99. Made it like 3 seasons and got bored with it.
9 9!
9 9!
:O How dare you.
All these shows are bangers, well done!
Not my creation, to be clear
It’s chaotic neutral until you hit the evil timeline
Cool… cool, cool, cool!
Hot… hot, hot, hot!
Danny Pudi ftw 👍
That’s still CN, and firmly in the murderhobo category insofar as “haha, it’s a phase” handwaving as canonical explanation. 😶
I only know 3 of these shows and they’re all awesome
If you like any of these shows, I strongly recommend the rest. They all scratch that same itch for me, extremely well-written, clever comedies (that is to say, the jokes are often clever, the characters are often not).
Lawful Good: Parks and Recreation
Neutral Good: Scrubs
Chaotic Good: Brooklyn 99
Lawful Neutral: Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
True Neutral: The Office
Chaotic Neutral: Community
Lawful Evil: 30 Rock Neutral Evil: Arrested Development Chaotic Evil: It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
The copaganda show … as chaotic good?
No. Heck no.
The Good Place is a much better fit.
eh, woke cops is a liberal fantasy, to be sure. Brooklyn 99 was put in an awkward spot in 2020 and did its best to try and talk about them. I do think it was made with the best of intentions, and the cop stuff is mostly like, a parody of cop stuff tropes, rather than a fetishization of the cops themselves (like, say, Law and Order.) Maybe it doesn’t excuse it totally, but it is really worse than say, Parks and Rec’s cheery depiction of depiction of politics (especially when it goes national)?
Part of what convinces me of it’s earnestness is how focused it was on representation. Theres a story about how when Stefanie Beatriz found out Melissa Fumero got the part of Amy, she was convinced well, that was it, they cast the Latina woman. I forget if they made the part of Rosa for her or they liked her so much they just cast her as it, but like, the cast being so diverse stands out compared to some of the more whiter casts on this very list. (and Im not knocking any show on this list, honestly. I liked them all except for The Office, which I never watched, and whatever LN is)
Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren’t really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you’re mad at the only cop show I’ve ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that’s literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that’s just one example.
Newer SVU episodes also acknowledge the issues and often essentially have the message that they (the very specific SVU team) are the only non-terrible NYPD team even within their own universe. I can’t speak to the other law and orders as I haven’t seen them.
It is copaganda but they’re trying their best. SVU in particular seems pretty self aware that it’s pretty much fantasy at this point.
You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.
American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not “tackling issues”, they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like
“Oh wow, old school police were racist… glad they aren’t anymore!”
And holt reminded him that it’s still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?
It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I’m not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.
It’s pretty clear that you wouldn’t approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues
Well I definitely wouldn’t say that, I’m a big fan of The Wire and We Own This City. All three are different flavors of copaganda, I just feel B99 lampshaded systemic issues instead of confronting them.
However I do agree that there isn’t use in arguging, and since we both made our opinions clear you go have a good day. ♥️
I’ll also not argue, not having to write valid arguments makes life a lot easier, but I want to chime in and say both brooklyn 99 and the wire are really good.
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Oh wow, old school police were racists… glad they aren’t anymore!”
Whoosh
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Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.
I didn’t think it was possible to take that sentence literally, especially knowing it is from a comedy show about the police.
Good call, totally agree
This a good 70% of what I watch
None of them fit as well as Sunny for chaotic evil.
Community is pretty damn good for CN
Huh…my favorites are all of the evils
Someone told me to skip the first season of always sunny if I watch it, do you agree?
The first season might not give a great idea what the rest of the show will be like, but it’s still good. If you end up liking what the show is, you should definitely check out season 1.
I found the first season superb. The characters weren’t as well defined as later on, but some of the plots were amazing and brutal!
Yeah the last 2 episodes of season one were great, the last episode of season 2 felt like a great climb and then just collapsed at the end I feel. Like they didn’t know where they wanted to go and just put it on a character not knowing where they wanted to go as a cliff hanger
What are the middle and bottom lawful shows?
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and 30 Rock.
The office is in no way neutral, it’s definitely in the evil scale. You’re meant to hate all the characters.
I wonder where Schitts Creek would fall
I’d argue it switches over time from lawful evil to chaotic good.
Hmm, I think the family leading up to the show seems like it might be kinda Arrested Development, but during the show I don’t think they really ever do anything “evil”.
I was thinking evil more in terms of the system that allows people to be rich and lazy in that manner, then they grow as a family over the course of the show until they are definitely good, but still definitely chaotic.
Ok the only two I recognize are also the ones that have the show name on them. What about the other 7?
Parks and Recreation - Scrubs - Brooklyn Nine Nine.
Kimmy Schmidt - The Office - Community.
30 Rock - Arrested Development - Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Of course - never watched any of them. To be honest y also didn’t watch scrubs either but I saw too many ads about their episodes back in the pre streaming era so I recognize some of the cast. Thanks
These are literally the only shows I watch lmao
Edit: add Modern Family
I always forget 30 rock existed
It’s so good too
As long as it’s not like the office I might give it a go, couldn’t get past episode two
Oh dude, give it a chance.
30 Rock has the highest jokes-per-minute of any TV series, according to this extremely unscientific and rigor-less measurement.
Tina Fey is brilliant and everything she touches is worth sampling.
30 rock is one of the very few shows that does not have a noticeable dip in quality.
It’s just really fucking funny from beginning to end.
Tina Fey is a god.
This is a good list of comedies in my opinion (not that into B99 tho) but I think 30 Rock is the most underrated one on here
