As the tentative launch date for Tesla's Robotaxi service approaches, more details are emerging, including the presence of a human safety driver and other key aspects.
    • Tja@programming.devEnglish
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      14 days ago

      No, this will be less convenient and more expensive. Like the tesla tunnel thing in Vegas: subway, but much worse.

      • dickalan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        14 days ago

        In this world where people are DoorDash delivery drivers I wonder what the hell you were thinking and why you don’t think that people aren’t poor enough everywhere to sign up for this

    • Lazhward@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      14 days ago

      Fantastic use of traffic collision, great reference.

      “Accident implies there’s nobody to blame.”

  • LousyCornMuffins@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    15 days ago

    yeah, totally not to keep the robotaxis from being molotoved. although after what musk did, not sure the presence of drivers will stop people.

    • einlander@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 days ago

      Didn’t Tesla choose not to allow Tesla vehicle lessee’s to not buy their cars so they can convert them to robo taxis and also software upgrade them so sell at a higher price in the certified pre-owned market?

      • partial_accumen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        15 days ago

        That was the initial plan but it hit a number of roadblocks.

        1. The release of the Robotaxi product was much delayed, and had Tesla kept to the “no buyout of leased cars” they would have been swimming in returned vehicles with nothing to do with them yet.

        2. The policy was put in place at a time when the autonomous hardware was thought to be the “final” version (referred to as Hardware 3). It turns out the “final” version wasn’t powerful enough, so a new final version was released (Hardware 4). So all the cars that were leased were not going to be useful as taxi cabs, so they offered those for sale to their leasers.

  • Stamets@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    15 days ago

    So it’s a taxi.

    Motherfucker loves trying to reinvent the wheel only to end up at the goddamn wheel.

    “I’ma invent a giant system that goes underground so we can move people around faster!” That’s a subway, you santorum-covered condom.

    • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 days ago

      Motherfucker loves trying to reinvent the wheel only to end up at the goddamn wheel.

      A shittier version of the wheel.

    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      15 days ago

      Par for the course for techbros. His hyperloop was a shittier train. UberPool is a shittier bus. All these dumbfucks grow up being told they’re the specialest boys, so of course people who made better things before them were clearly wrong.

      • Eheran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        15 days ago

        Hyperloop was a raging success - it stopped funding of railway. I believe he even admitted that this was behind it to begin with.

        • albert180@piefed.socialEnglish
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          15 days ago

          Luckily only in Murica.

          The liberal parties here tried to make the same argument here, but luckily no one takes them seriously (in Europe this means something different, than in the US. It’s not progressive/left-leaning, they are more like Libertarians/Republicans. They don’t hate gay people, but hate paying taxes and regulations)

            • ugo@feddit.itEnglish
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              15 days ago

              I do, mostly. Believe it or not, we do live in a society. Taxes and fees are integral to the well-being of the place you live in, from the small (apartment building, street, beighborhood) to the medium (city, commune) to the big (region, country).

              Public services need to be funded, and we fund them with taxes. I like paying taxes. What I hate is when those taxes get misused. What I hate is the CEO of my company, who last year made 300x what I made (and I make well above average salary) paying half the amount pf taxes I pay (percentage wise) because my money comes from salary and his comes from capital gains. What I hate is seeing homeless people around because you could build homes and give them to the homeless if the rich fucks were taxes properly.

              • coronach@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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                15 days ago

                Hear hear. I think it was Chomsky that said something like “we should all be celebrating tax day; that we don’t speaks volumes”

            • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              14 days ago

              I do.

              When I fall of my bike, hurt my arm and need a doctor to fix it, I don’t have to think about insurance or medical debt, or anything. I just go to the hospital and go back home to heal without paying a dime and with paid leave for as long as I need to recover.

              I also love that I can take an affordable train to go almost everywhere in my country, that universities don’t require a loan so high that you will be paying for it for years… I could go on, but you get the idea.

              I love paying taxes because it’s way cheaper than the american alternative.

            • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              14 days ago

              I believe paying taxes is a fair tradeoff for living in a society. My concerns are that those taxes be applied fairly, even if that impacts me, and that they be used to improve society for its people, even if it costs me more.

              I know people who are elderly or have lower income, I have kids in college, I have been between jobs in parts of my career, I’ve had major medical emergencies in my family …. And I have the empathy to want no one to go through that without assistance. I know the only way for people to “pick themselves up by their bootstraps” (I know, I know), is that when they fall off the tightrope they are caught before hitting the ground. I know the only way to break the cycle of poverty and crime is for kids to start with the same opportunities as their peers. I know that technology and science can be directed and accelerated by targeted investments. And yes, even if it costs me more. My successes are a product of my society and it is fair for them to feed back into society

            • albert180@piefed.socialEnglish
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              14 days ago

              People who are not too stupid or egoistic to see that good things happen with them?

              I love the awesome public transport network here, I love the good maintained hiking paths, I love that I can walk safe outside because of good social security. I love that all people have access to good healthcare here

            • devfuuu@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              14 days ago

              I do. They make sure that my family which is borderline in proverty and barely able to live sometimes can actually survive.

    • dickalan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      14 days ago

      The story behind that was that there was a actual plan for public transportation in California, but the hype trains surrounding this diverted all that attentionaway from meaningful changes

  • jsomae@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    15 days ago

    I’m planning to launch a human-only taxi service, but to cut costs the humans will be AI.

  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    15 days ago

    So the headline is pretty inaccurate.

    There will be a person in the passenger seat. They aren’t a safety driver, or driver at all. They’ve been operating with an actual safety driver for around a year now for employees only.

    We don’t really know what they’ll do, but I highly doubt it’s jump for the wheel if it’s about to do something. I think it’s going to be more of a, the car decides it can’t do anything and is just sitting there incorrectly and they won’t have to dispatch someone to fix it like Waymo does. This could be a legitimate saftey issue if the car is just stuck on the road.

    Once they’re happy it’s not getting in situations like that they’ll remove the person and dispatch people as needed.

    But we won’t know for a few more days when we get reports of what they’re doing while the first people test it.

    • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
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      15 days ago

      The article says, “This is basically a human supervising driver whose entire job is to watch the car and make sure it does not drive itself into a ditch.”