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    I once saw a documentary about Bedouin tribes that were dying out. The problem was very simple, from the outside; they were killing virtually all of their female children.

    The team interviewed an elder of one tribe, asking him about this practice. As expected, the elder said that parents wanted sons to continue their family names.

    “If no-one in the tribe has any daughters, where will these sons find wives?” asked the interviewer. The elder confidently replied without hesitation, “They will get wives from other tribes.” “But what if the other tribes kill their female babies just like your tribe does?” the interviewer persisted (In fact, they had met people from several tribes, and indeed they all followed this terrifying practice). The elder looked at the interviewer like he was a slow child. “They will get wives from other tribes.”

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      The elder looked at the interviewer like he was a slow child. “They will get wives from other tribes.”

      I believe Darwin might have had something to say about this attitude…

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      I have literally had this argument, but it was about shrinking population growth. “We will just have more immigrants.” From where, outside of West Africa and Central Asia, all the countries have fertility rates below replacement levels and even those countries’ levels are dropping.

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        Tbh, immigration isn’t the worst “solution”.

        We do have an overpopulation problem. Well, an overconsumption times overpopulation problem, really.

        We could fix that by either consuming less (which we apparently, as a species, really don’t want) or by having fewer people (which we apparently really want).

        So, in the end, reducing population isn’t a real problem. Even if the population shrinks by 50% each generation (~25 years, for the sake of the argument), there will still be 250mio people left even after 5 generations. The trend should probably be reversed sometime then, but until then it’s really not an issue on the species survival aspect and it would actually be really good for the planet and our long-term survival.

        But until then we have mainly one problem: our economic system is based on infinite growth, which can’t work. So again there are two main solutions: either we bring in people from other countries, who benefit from a higher standard of living here while supporting our economic system, or we get rid of the real parasites and freeloaders in our societies: the ultra rich. And again, for some reason we really don’t want to get rid of the rich.

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      “Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.”

      I’m not trying to imply that beduins are the enemy, more that insanely stupid people are and since I don’t wanna get into eugenics, well, this is all I got.

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      I think it’s opposite, it will cover the industry in shit that someone will have to clean up.

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          Only web and information exchange. Hardware and critical systems are intact. Web and information needs better place than browsers from a long time. That’s why I am betting on fediverse, but I don’t think that’s enough.

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          Yeah, same as crafts-people now.
          Assembly lines increased minimum quality while reducing the maximum quality and caused a scarcity of people learning to make stuff themselves.

          So now the people that do, get paid more per amount of work. IDK how much work they get though.

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      Companies that foster their juniors to first learn to solve problems on their own and then learn to use these tools to increase their output in a safe and efficient manner will most likely triumph over companies that seek to run an ai code farm.

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        I think you’re wrong. But not because you’re illogical. On the contrary I think you’re thinking rationally if you assume businesses are running to make better products. If you do. You’re right.

        These companies are not running to make better products than their competitors. They are running to monopolize their industry to a degree that gives them enough power to sell absolute garbage.

        Look no further than the gaming industry. This is the exact type of garbage we are seeing from other industries now.

        They are not interested in making better products. They are interested in making profits. And if the entire market is held together by 2-3 major players all replacing workers with AI slop they will have no reason to change. They will all do it together.

        No amount of “indie” projects will ever threaten their market domination.

        This is then future that will happen. Don’t expect “markets” to save us from this. The myth of “free markets” is how we got here in the first place.

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        Absolutely the way to go. But will they be able to do it fast enough before being pushed out by market forces?

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          It’s always about the bottom dollar (see: MVP). This will cause another .com bubble to burst.

          You heard it here first