• moonlight@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    Definitely, although I think it’s most interesting if the advanced technology is based on the magic.

    Like, let’s say there is a world where there are magic plants that can heal you, people who can magically scry nearby locations if they meditate deeply, and stones that levitate in the moonlight.

    And there’s an evil empire that exploits the fuck out of this by industrially farming the plants to create a highly concentrated serum, removing people’s brains and hooking them up to computers for magical sensing abilities, and attaching fragments of moon rocks to the levitating stones to create antigravity. Creating invulnerable flying supersoldiers with impossibly good radar powered by brain backpacks.

  • scarabic@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    I think you inevitably face the whole “magic IS advanced technology” thing. If you actually want them to be different things, you have to have some answer to this.

    • okamiueru@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Isn’t it always different things? “Magic” being a different set of rules for how the world works. Technology being the things that can be achieved given the rules. And, whether advanced technology is influenced and how, depend on those rules, lore and culture.

      If for example magic is only available to some people with the ability or what not. Technology will always be available regardless.

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 months ago

        Stargate SG-1 is a great example where no matter what the magic is, it’s eventually revealed to be technology underneath - just really advanced technology. If you take all limits off science, it’s easy for the two to begin blending. They even do the “only available to some people” thing as technology: certain people share a gene with the ancient ancestors who made the high-technology, and so it recognizes and activates for them and not others.

  • rekabis@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    We have high technology because we don’t have anything else to leverage.

    I suspect a world with strong magic is liable to leverage that to the exclusion of technology.

    A now-ended iseki story on Reddit’s HFY subreddit called “Wait, is this just GATE?” Asks the question of what would happen if a universe of only technology and no magic (ours) made contact with a universe of pretty much only magic and almost no technology beyond that found in the Middle Ages. It contains some tropes (used mainly as comedic relief or irony) and plenty of references to current magical-universe plot elements from games and novels, but is a surprisingly fresh and compelling examination of the cross-universe idea.

  • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

    -Arthur C. Clarke

    • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.

      — Pratchett, maybe…?

  • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    MCU does a good job. Iron Man is supposed to be science based, and Thor is a Norse god.

  • markovs_gun@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    This was super common in the 1960s and 70s when hippies where the ones writing sci fi and the thought was that technological advancement would also come along with spiritual advancement to the point of supernatural powers. Star Wars, Dune, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and many others freely blend the supernatural with the technological. Sure it’s not D&D magic with fireballs and shit but it’s still magic. Further, if you want to look at a modern IP with this vibe look at World of Warcraft, where there are aliens from space with spaceships and shit with one of the most stereotypical fantasy settings you can imagine.

  • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    Absolutely. Read the nightlord series, just skip through the first half of book one, it’s the first thing the author ever wrote and could have used better editing for sure. High tech kicks in at book 3

  • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    In Terry Pratchett’s Discworld the wizards of the Unseen University built a possibly sentient supercomputer out of an ant farm (much faster and more powerful than previous druid-built computers based on standing stones, which were mostly limited to calendar calculations and required regular human sacrifices).

    The Agathean Empire at the edge of the disc has little boxes with little imps inside which can paint a picture of what you point the box at in mere seconds.

    Later, some Ankh-Morpork entrepreneurs trained imps to paint even faster on highly flammable nitrocellulose reels and, moving them very fast and lighting them from behind with excited salamanders, invented moving pictures (and promptly accidentally almost let the Things from the Dungeon Dimensions enter the disc).

    Even later, some other Ankh-Morpork entrepreneurs created a continent-spanning network of semaphore telegraphs, even managing to send pictures through it.

    All while some Dwarves in Ankh-Morpork invented movable type, while getting in trouble with the wizards, who’re well aware that you can’t use that to print magic books, for the type will remember

    And, all along, deep under their mountains, the Überwaldian dwarves have been digging up and using ancient Devices to power whole cities…

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    Iron man and other Marvel movies started being very science. Oriented, but quickly combined magic or turned to magic