Wondering if your typical/average/normie person (millennials and younger) know it or know about it. It’s enabled on reddit and discord?
Most people are probably at least aware that there are contexts where you can use some basic, intuitive ASCII-based formatting (like asterisks for bullets) and it will get cleaned up to a prettier format when you post it.
They may not know the name of the format or all the available features.
Not Markdown as a whole, but I guess they commonly know to use asterisks for italics and bold. Some also know how to
crossthe text. Not much more for a normie, though.I guess they commonly know to use asterisks for italics and bold
I wouldn’t guess that at all. Pretty much everyone I know in the “normie” world would AT BEST use ctrl-i and ctrl-b if they’re not just pressing the icon in the gui.
Hell, most of them look at me like I’m a goddamn morlock when I tell them to Shift-delete in order to skip the recycling bin.
Yeah, I’m a normie, I’m tech literate adjacent-adjacent, by which I mean I’m here on lemmy rather than Facebook, but no. Me and my peers are not pressing ctrl anything. I don’t even know what gui means. Something user interface? I’m not proud to be this dumb, but I’m pretty sure most “regular” people are in this boat with me. I was the third most tech literate person in my entire office last year with a bunch of millennials simply because I was willing to Google things.
Most IT nowadays is just simply the ability to google. What sets a professional IT person apart from an amateur is that the professional has an educated guess as to what to google in the first place.
Non-professional: “My computer is making a weird buzzing noise”
Professional: “What are the symptoms of a bad cooling fan?”
You mean ̶s̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶? Yeah. It can be done without markdown.
Those are usually broken on screen readers.
OIC. I should have thought about that.
And here I was considering making this the default way of doing a strikethrough.On the other hand, perhaps we should update the screen readers to make that work. Maybe it can be added as a category of stuff that is to be explained separately.
The least I can do is install a screen reader and know what it does with this.
They do not imho
No, and they don’t want to
And quartz, of course.
Of course.
No
Maybe?
Nah
**NO**
I would guess they know a bit about lists using “-“ and a few people might know about using asterisk to bold stuff, but other than that probably not.
No
Another millenial here. I’ve known about markdown forever, but I also LIVED online as a teenager. I suspect most people I know would think similarly to the other commenter if asked.
I think less than 50% of people with access to technology are tech literate enough to know what markdown is. I don’t think age really applies here so much as interest in technology.
Just because I drive a car doesn’t mean I know or care about how it works. It’s just a tool.
I would even say less than 5%
Lol, yeah. I’m probably being too optimistic.
Are you telling me you can’t identify some of the common symptoms of a failing alternator!? Pshhhh…
:P
You’re a towel.
…could you please elaborate?
Dumb joke that’s from South Park. There’s a towel, and any time someone calls him a towel, he retorts with, “you’re a towel”.
I need to watch more South park. 😂
Elder Millennial here. All I know about markdown is:
-
To make a hard copy of a thought or conversation. “Mark that down in your notes, so we don’t forget.”
-
A discount or sale. “Did you see the 30% markdown on three legged jeans?”
Any Elder Millennial born after 1979 can’t Markdown, all they know is jot that down, 30% off on jeans, nostalgia for blockbuster, eat hot chip and buy avocado toast
And yet you just used it! Some parts of markdown were made to be intuitive and natural like:
- Numbering your items
- will automatically format them
- into ordered lists
- and if you use
-
it’s an unordered list
- same with asterisk
Still don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.
Markdown is a markup language, which can be used by users to indicate formatting hints to the underlying system. For example, you want a text to be bold, a markup language lets you tell that to the website in a way it understands.
Older markup languages tended to be verbose and complicated. For example, this is a numbered list in BBCode, which is the classic forum markup language:
[ol][li]Item one[/li][li]Item two[/li][/ol]
.Markdown keeps it simple and intuitive, for the most part.
1. item 1 2. item 2
The above is a numbered list in Markdown. Much simpler than the BBCode version. Simple enough that people like you can do it without even being aware of Markdown at all.
*This is cursive text* **This is bold text** # this is a heading ## this is a smaller heading ###### usually up to six levels are supported, but this might differ based on the implementation (my instance seems to make all of these the same size) > this is a quote it can span multiple lines too this is a bullet point list: - item 1 - item 2 [Links are more complicated, but still as easy as they can be](https://example.org/)
The above doesn’t actually display formatted because I used a code block to show the Markdown as written. The below is how the above actually displays:
This is cursive text This is bold text
this is a heading
this is a smaller heading
usually up to six levels are supported, but this might differ based on the implementation (my instance seems to make all of these the same size)
this is a quote it can span multiple lines too
this is a bullet point list:
- item 1
- item 2
Links are more complicated, but still as easy as they can be
edit: this is what the original creator of Markdown has to say on the matter:
Markdown is intended to be as easy-to-read and easy-to-write as is feasible.
Readability, however, is emphasized above all else. A Markdown-formatted document should be publishable as-is, as plain text, without looking like it’s been marked up with tags or formatting instructions. While Markdown’s syntax has been influenced by several existing text-to-HTML filters — including Setext, atx, Textile, reStructuredText, Grutatext, and EtText — the single biggest source of inspiration for Markdown’s syntax is the format of plain text email.
To this end, Markdown’s syntax is comprised entirely of punctuation characters, which punctuation characters have been carefully chosen so as to look like what they mean. E.g., asterisks around a word actually look like emphasis. Markdown lists look like, well, lists. Even blockquotes look like quoted passages of text, assuming you’ve ever used email.
You typed some text to make your first comment, and it looked something like this:
Elder Millennial here. All I know about markdown is: 1. To make a hard copy of a thought or conversation. "Mark that down in your notes, so we don't forget." 2. A discount or sale. "Did you see the 30% markdown on three legged jeans?"
The way your comment actually displays is different though, isn’t it? The numbered items are indented and come one after the other without any space inbetween, and the text within each numbered item is properly alignem.
What you entered is just text, and text by itself is inherently meaningless. “Markdown” is the name of a particular standard way of formatting text so that programs can reliably interpret parts of that text as representing the writers desire for their text to be displayed a particular way. You can kind of think of it like a programming language. As another basic example, consider this text:
This is a paragraph. This is still the same paragraph. Here is the second one. And here is the third one.
I’m going to paste this text right after this sentence; notice how the amount of space doesn’t matter, and how a new paragraph is denoted by at least two line breaks.
This is a paragraph. This is still the same paragraph.
Here is the second one.
And here is the third one.
I read all that and I must admit I am still not quite sure what part of all that is markdown, and why any of it is markdown.
I get that this sentence must be the key concept: ““Markdown” is the name of a particular standard way of formatting text so that programs can reliably interpret parts of that text as representing the writers desire for their text to be displayed a particular way.” But it reads like a tautology without really explaining either statement.
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I know enough to get by, but the thing is the syntax isn’t always the same between platforms. Sometimes I make an Empty Hyperlink just to have colorful text and people ask me “Woah how’d you do that?” and I explain it to them but I can’t always show them without it auto formatting so they just never figure it out lol.
Looks like Lemmy formats empty hyperlinks as loops back here.
Looks like Lemmy formats empty hyperlinks as loops back here.
Depends on the app, and maybe also the instance you’re using?
In eternity for lemmy it shows as a link to
https://www.reddit.com/
if I long press it, but has aninvalid link
error if I try to click it.I fucking clicked it. I don’t know what i was expecting.
Voyager saved me
My opinion
spoiler
- I don’t know for sure
- My opinion doesn’t matter at all
But I think, they know Markdown only, if they are involved in
Reddit
,Wikipedia
,Obsidian/Silverbullet self-hosting
or were Skypevictimsheavy-users.- don’t forget Discord
victimsusers
- don’t forget Discord
Nope. Most tech people don’t know what markdown is.