I’m shocked that I haven’t seen one protest yet. Is the media suppressing them? If there aren’t any, why?
To be the most effective we have to be protesting in front of houses of people who actually influence change. I’ve been too far too many protests and it feels like they mean nothing. Only way to make change is to stop taking it to the streets. And taking it to houses of billionaires and politicians who actually are in control of change.
There are.
Trump isn’t threatening to charge people with domestic terrorism for leaving Tesla dealerships alone, is he?
Getting sick of Europeans falling for the blatant suppression and propaganda that our corporate-elite overlords are spoon-feeding them and using that to act superior.
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That being said, if you have a hard time getting the word out on your protests, then the suppression is working.
Publicizing your actions is part of the protest.
You’re making the assumption that these protests don’t have designated people to cover and publicize their actions. We already know Meta and Twitter have been literally suppressing and shadow banning leftist associated tags and keywords on their platforms.
People need to be sharing info here and through other channels. Pictures, videos, links to organised groups.
There have been. But, if I come across some I’ll try to remember to send you a link.
Europeans are so smug about this shit. It’s not a personal virtue that all of you can just hop on a train or a bike or whatever and be at your nation’s capital in an hour or two for between zero and fifty euros. Some of us are literally thousands of miles from DC. We are still protesting where we are, but it’s purely symbolic and also no one cares.
Why shouldn’t they be? Americans have long had a superiority complex, always confidently mocking the problems of others around the world as if they were immune to them. It may feel bad for you now but the schadenfreude the rest of the world feels is completely justified. Frankly, the way some of you are suddenly crying about the rest of the world being mean to you is only further contributing to this image of Americans thinking they are above everyone else.
Americans’ superiority complex have always been a goddamn embarrassment. You guys also don’t understand American political subdynamics at all. The obnoxious American exceptionalists you are talking about are the ones who supported (and still support) Trump. Every negative stereotype associated with Americans is embodied by Trump supporters, not Trump opposers.
I don’t really care if the world is mean to us. I support every country boycotting the US. I do not consider myself a patriot and never have. I am a cosmopolitan and don’t think being born on a certain patch of dirt makes anyone special. I just wish people could understand that a lot of their “gotchas” about Americans (“you guys think your country is better than everyone else,” “you guys always talk about 2A”, etc) aren’t really gotchas because the people the shoe fits the snuggest are the ones who LIKE Trump. People who think the US is God’s gift to the world and entitled to stomp all over everyone else voted for Trump because that’s what he believes! They aren’t out here protesting and they’re not going to because they think there’s nothing to protest!
My problem isn’t that rhetoric targeting anti-Trump Americans is mean but that it’s counterproductive. It’s preaching to the choir. A lot of us who voted against him and continue to oppose him are people who think and act more or less just like you but who just happened to be born on this patch of dirt instead of yours. And with a government that doesn’t listen to us at all, we have about as much power over the situation as you do. We should be allies in this fight.
My problem isn’t that rhetoric targeting anti-Trump Americans is mean but that it’s counterproductive.
Typing this after you’ve just whined about “Europeans” is peak irony. You guys are so fucking clueless.
You just want to argue. I don’t. Let’s not.
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I don’t call them protests. I call them “Opportunity to arrest figure heads of whatever movement in order to eliminate momentum and silently kill the cause since no North American protest seems like anything more than cows being led to a slaughter house by cops getting paid overtime to kick heads”
Find a protest, bang your drum.
what are you protesting?
Because, in reality, peaceful protests don’t work. We’ve been taught that they do, but they don’t.
The most successful protest going on right now is against Tesla. A bit of anonymous property destruction and a boycott, crashing the stock price, those things actually work. Getting together and holding signs doesn’t actually do anything, especially in some place like California.
Good news, Peaceful protests are actually twice as likely to bring about change. Better news, peaceful protests with only 3.5% of the population actively participating have never failed to bring about change. Even better news, we have strong leadership in Bernie Sanders and AOC leading this movement, 34,000 people showed up to a recent rally in Denver.
*Source https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
They work. As long as people make sure that the top knows that the alternative are guillotines
Bernie and AOC just got 34,000 people at a protest they did. Check out 50501… They seem to be rallying point. You might need to check them out here or on Blue Sky though, tik tok is deleting comments about them and Facebook will soon also probably. But yeah, for some reason the protests are not hitting the media
The revolution will not be televised
@Yazer@lemmy.ca there is also the 50501 group organizing protests in all 50 states April 5.
As others have commented, there haven’t been protests this large and often in the US since the Vietnam War. Organizing this takes time. Organizing without using billionaire owned services with questionable privacy policies takes even longer… but it is happening.
A lot of people said they weren’t going to protest this time. People voted for the guy 3 times. A lot of people said, “fuck it! If this is what you really want, let’s learn this shit the hard way.” Right after the election and right after inauguration I saw this sentiment all over. In practice, a lot of people have taken to hoarding cash and have adopted a seige mentality. There is no help coming this time.
It sucks that protest is the only lever we have
where are you? are you in the US, outside the US, rural, urban? I’m in a relatively small urb and even i see protests, and have attended them. if you’re not seeing them reported, you need to change your information sources. if you’re not seeing them in person, well, that’s a question of whether you’re in a dense enough area for protests to make sense
You also have to understand the sheer size of the USA. It’s not like everyone can go to DC that easily. The protests are taking place in all states.
to have the biggest effect though we really should be blockading DC. blockading the capital is the most effective form of demonstration as evidence by MLK’s March on Washington, EDSA, Euromaidan, basically any successful protests.
protesting at your own state capital is okay for state level changes (see the state-by-state results of BLM).
protesting at the financial center is pointless because the rich don’t actually do work (see Occupy).
if you want national change you demonstrate at the national capital for long enough to make the dictator flee the country (or whatever your goal is)
I was hoping those million women in knitted pink hats would turn out again and do the heavy lifting, but they were busy, I guess.
Like a towel drying overnight, they all forgot about the previous Trump administration by the time the next one got here.
Loads of people in this thread saying they’re happening but media not covering them…
I don’t think that’s really what is meant by “mass protests”. In the not so distant past I would have thought every american man woman and child would be weeping in the streets at the corruption and despotism.
There are protests, and maybe they’re not being covered, but it’s not the type of civil unrest I would have expected honestly.
The media is definitely covering it. If your media sites don’t cover it, block that media site and follow one that does.
That’s… not really what I was getting at.
Europe has roughly the same land mass as the United States and less than half the population. The population density and urbanization is even lower.
So for the USA it’s actually quite a bit to have protests of hundreds in smaller towns and state capitols.
Major cities can muster the large groups, but the consistent and widespread nature of the protests should not be discounted.
Incidentally I am also not seeing counter protests or demonstrations of support.
