I’m shocked that I haven’t seen one protest yet. Is the media suppressing them? If there aren’t any, why?
Protest for what? Not sure if you are referring to something in particular, or just in general.
The majority of people were tired of the democrats, and like what the republicans are doing. Under Biden for the past 4 years, I saw way more people who were democrat become republican, than I saw republicans become democrat.
I’ve seen one protest where I live, and there were maybe 30 people there.
They’re caging and chaining up perfectly innocent people. When do they start calling regular citizens terrorists and start arresting us in mass?
Are you referring to illegal aliens?
Nope. Legal residents. Like that guy from Columbia. He’s being jailed for having an opinion that MAGA dislikes.
Guess I haven’t heard about that one.
Would you like a link?
Yeah, I’ll read it.
Fluoride. Domesticated mfer. They’ll put yellow ribbons on a tree for some bullshit.
Loads of people in this thread saying they’re happening but media not covering them…
I don’t think that’s really what is meant by “mass protests”. In the not so distant past I would have thought every american man woman and child would be weeping in the streets at the corruption and despotism.
There are protests, and maybe they’re not being covered, but it’s not the type of civil unrest I would have expected honestly.
The media is definitely covering it. If your media sites don’t cover it, block that media site and follow one that does.
That’s… not really what I was getting at.
Europe has roughly the same land mass as the United States and less than half the population. The population density and urbanization is even lower.
So for the USA it’s actually quite a bit to have protests of hundreds in smaller towns and state capitols.
Major cities can muster the large groups, but the consistent and widespread nature of the protests should not be discounted.
Incidentally I am also not seeing counter protests or demonstrations of support.
@Yazer@lemmy.ca there is also the 50501 group organizing protests in all 50 states April 5.
As others have commented, there haven’t been protests this large and often in the US since the Vietnam War. Organizing this takes time. Organizing without using billionaire owned services with questionable privacy policies takes even longer… but it is happening.
Waiting for the big one. Everyone knows it’s coming. Just cant go off prematurely.
This is from someone that lived through WWII in Germany.
"Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.
Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”
And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.
But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.
But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair."
“They Thought They Were Free”, Milton Sanford Mayer
Who am I to argue with that? Take to the streets. I’m there.
I dunno about you bro but there’s a protest every other day in Denver. We’re getting there.
The question is how Dumbfuck will respond. There’s an unverified rumor the Insurrection Act may be invoked on April 20th owing to an executive order signed on January 20th. If it gets to that point, we will find out how far our military is willing to stretch its service to the Constitution.
Don’t be afraid. Don’t look away.
Millions protested against the invasion of Iraq, the USA invaded Iraq anyway. Mass protests are ignored by the oligarchs.
Now if the USians grew spines and organized a general strike, that might get the ruling class’s attention.
Can’t get a general strike to work when the majority of utility workers are magats. The algos target the blue collar industry for this very reason. Look at what the conservative / fascist media arms of your own country are targeting very specifically. Its core services for corporate enablement.
Transportation, construction, farming, police force all fine if we try a general strike tomorrow. Most upper middle class also are magats. So bank services, middle management, accounting and financial CIO / CEO teams all also are not participating.
General strike happens tomorrow and protesters in the streets will be arrested - people who are Dems or anti fascist will lose their jobs and houses.
We are in a no win game.
I am convinced people have to die for it to be big enough in the US. I’m not trying to be difficult or obtuse. I think with the state of things, it’s the only thing that is going to unify us enough to take to the streets and revolt together.
People already are / have been dying. Abortion care deaths / trans and general population - suicide rate upticks / ICE detention center deaths (52 people last Trump term) with people being grabbed on valid visas now / 1 death already of a Ukrainian last month in a detention center - custody (44 year old) Maksym Chernyak was a stroke / seizure but when you understand the conditions 24/7 light - terrible food and sleep conditions makes sense.
Medicaid cuts that made it through will lead to deaths. Due to gaps in care.
Abortion stances will only get worse from here in states and at the federal level for access to medical care on still borns, and general birthing process will be worse.
NOAA cuts will lead to deaths due to alert notification systems of major storms and tornados. (March has already been particularly deadly)
ICE interactions and warrant laws being modified for them will lead to more deaths if they ever get reported.
Food bank funding and other supports have been cut so we will likely see an increase in malnourishment diseases and deaths
VA benefits and mental health support services are actively being cut. So expect more suicide and homelessness from our veterans.
Social security cuts will kill seniors - access to care / meals / warmth - home health aids. These will be seen as increases in fall related, medication mistakes, transfer issues, hospital stay illness upticks, complex wound healing (wounds in the elderly require nutrition to heal if poor they won’t heal and tunnel so sepsis deaths) and other related deaths.
All of these things won’t be clear TRUMP DID IT. But as those statlines tick up. And the average life expectancy and health outcomes of our citizens get worse by the year. It will be because of these cuts. People don’t realize that the death toll is already counting - it’s just that there’s no clear cut bucket to put them in.
As much as I respect your knowledge and analysis it isn’t simple enough. I should have said people need to be dying from the same thing. Where the root cause is the same, it can be dismissed. I thought COVID had a chance because it was nasty and killed a lot. But nope. Didn’t keep Trump out.
Well it was because the el3ction was actually r1gged so
Not only mass media, but social media algorithms as well. Big tech is complicit in the coup
To be fair, this doesn’t make any statements about attendance.
Denver yesterday - 34,000 people:
Also:
March 25th: Tempe, AZ - 11,300 people
Feb 18th: Nationwide Presidents Day Protest - multiple locations
Feb 5th: First 50501 Protest - all 50 capitals
There wasn’t a unified protest movement at the beginning of Trump’s first term. It wasn’t until BLM started gaining traction that we started seeing real action on the streets. This time around, despite the total lack of leadership from the DNC, there were boots on the ground from day one.
It’s important to note that unlike Trump’s first term, the mass media now has a vested interest in not reporting the scale and size of the unrest, so they’re tamping down coverage wherever they can, and actively manufacturing consent by minimizing the impact of the protests.
Thanks! This is the graph I was looking for
Canada here. We see nothing about Murcan protests, if they exist. We just hear Canadians/politicians reacting negatively to pretty much everything coming out of the white house.
We ask each other how can Murcans be okay with being treated like this. Don’t they understand what’s happening?
Don’t they understand what’s happening?
No. Overwhelmingly, no, they don’t. The MAGA crowd is stuck to their pants with glee, the liberal crowd is going “oh well, we’ll get em in the midterms,” and about another third of the country is just brain-dead clueless about all of it. Maybe a few thousand people in the US actually understand just how close we are to cascading systemic collapse.
I really hope you’re right. I’m actually very scared that they’ll take over our social media this election season and we’ll get fucked as well.
I really hope our people are smart enough to know when they’re being manipulated as the MAGAts have been. It looks like our cons are waking up though, and realizing that it’s not the time for smöl PP
They already took over social media, that was the final push that put a literal conman back in the Whitehouse.
In Canada we see a lot less of that due to rules around news and reporting on social media, but there’s a push for better regulation still. I worry it’s not enough to keep us clear of the conservatives this election.
Now is the time to push for new privacy laws and limits on advertising and the use of public relations in media. The path of the US is an illustration on what not to do.
I’m not sure where these questions are coming from, there are tens of thousands of people conducting dozens of protests across every single state at every level of government, and multiple stories about those protests in this feed.
there’s absolutely some media suppression since Trump is friends with the owners of some media outlets, but there is also a lot of media documenting the literally Nationwide protests.
there’s a super popular post like a few tiles up about the dozens of ongoing Tesla protests going on that are tanking the company.
I visited family/friends in the US recently (i’ve lived in europe for many years).
Everyone is super upset about the current state of things, angry at Trump etc.
However, they are also generally just convinced they need to wait out these four years and then everything can return to normal.
r/50501 (I’m brand-new to lemmy so idk what it is here yet) Check out Indivisible
!mirror@50501.chat (mirror of reddit posts)
Whenever I attend a protest, there is 0 media stations in attendance or covering it.
By design. They’re under control.
Honestly, I think everyone’s waiting for the masses to be just pissed off enough to kick it up a notch.
@Yazer@lemmy.ca my kids didn’t have school yesterday because their teachers were protesting.
There have been dozens.