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    2 months ago

    They will do this but then what option will they have left when they make it even more bloated and slow—since they now have this “extra room”, as it were?

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        2 months ago

        Nonsense, Excel is extremely bad at analyzing and visualizing data. The whole point of Excel is ease of use, cell reference, etc. Now make 10 graphs with different ranges, different axis ranges, etc. good luck. It is a whole lot of useless clicking, with open tabs like axis ranges of course always resetting to the line formatting. It is exactly like it was 20 years ago with zero improvement. You can still NOT simply input a cell with a value into the axis range to make it automatic.

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    2 months ago

    They shouldn’t have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90’s computer.

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      2 months ago

      Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it’s time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds… Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.

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        Oh definitely. Its shut down every day, has a dedicated dock in the home office, and I open it at 9am.

        Thats when I get my coffee and snack. Its just surprising how much longer I can sit and sip before starting now.

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            The same with the incredibly powerful CPUs and huge amounts of RAM we all have now. These are little supercomputers, and everything in Windows takes longer than it did 25 years ago on machines with a tiny fraction of the power.

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              2 months ago

              This trend is not limited to windows. Try to open a notepad or a calculator on any modern linux distro. 3-5 seconds. And it’s getting worse with snaps and flatpacks.

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            2 months ago

            and to install ‘mandatory’ giant bloated updates faster…

            and to reboot faster after crashes (which may or may not have been caused by the above updates)…

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          I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.

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        2 months ago

        when i set up a new pc i warn the users moving from really old ones that their coffee-fetching and bagel toasting time is about to shrink to zero.

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        2 months ago

        Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you’re waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.

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      my work windows pc used to fill almost the entire 8gb ram with just the crap that autostarted.

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        Ive got 16gb in the work-provided machine… And I can safely say that more than half is just autostart crap.

        Since I only use it for messaging/email, I don’t much care tbh. Just kind of a fun to note for the laughs though.

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      They also make Edge launch at startup, it also never really closes when you “close” it.

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        2 months ago

        that bit you can turn off in edge settings… but the webview engine stays because of widgets and probably some other bullshit.

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        Thats because of office I believe, since its using edge underneath.

        Ah, the edgewebview2 crash. So consistent, so destructive.

        This is why I’m glad I mostly just use it for teams, everything else is pretty much ssh from my main workstation (debian).

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    2 months ago

    shrugs in linux

    Articles like this and the fact they’re still trying to get recall back was reason enough for me to switch again.

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      2 months ago

      it’s been a long time but i vaguely remember an office tray icon or desktop toolbar or something that could run all the time.

      nowadays, windows caching and prefetch should be more than enough… and that’s not even considering the fast ssd we have now, either.

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    Only if you have installed MS Office, it was one of the first thing which I deleted, among with other MS Bloatware and services “to improve the user experience”. A clean Windows is a difference like day and night with the defauly one, in speed, stability and RAM usage. The specs of my modded Windows11 24H2 (Acer laptop)

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      Not sure what you want to show with that screenshot. It tells you that 700 MB of your installed RAM is reserved for your integrated GPU which doesn’t really have to do anything with Windows.

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    2 months ago

    OfficeClickToRun.exe is years and years old. This isn’t a new thing at all.

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      that’s the c2r maintenance process. main job is to set up and update the local files for office.

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        2 months ago

        It’s a maintenance process which preloads essential office files into memory for usage when you launch the different Microsoft applications so their startup time is reduced as well.

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    i’m just surprised HOW they are able to make text editor apps so heavy and slow. seriously, HOW??

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      There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it’s still there, it’s been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn’t refresh, window controls didn’t work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.

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    I’m forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin

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      Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It’s so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer “Cancelling…”.

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      Yep, it’s quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.

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      Obligatory Windows is trash and f those guys. Something about Dolphin turns me off tho. Thinking about exploring new file explorers.

      I can’t seem to find a view I like in Dolphin. Everything I try I still end up with these two columns when I’d rather have one compact list.