Back in the day, Reagan called Russia ‘the Evil Empire’ and people would tell you that the KGB was worse than the Gestapo.
Putin was trained by the KGB and many Americans think he’s a swell guy.
Fascist are the useful idiots of empire. imperialism and empire are the byproduct of capitalist competition. Not all Nazis are Germans. Anybody can be a Nazi. worshipping rich people is a pathway to world war. So pull up your boot straps and walk into the flames of stupidity. I really theorize that there hasn’t been any human progress. I’m too much of a coward to kill myself, I suppose. Or maybe there’s like a little inkling of hope that the collective will intercede with Kinetic Solutions. I look at the revolution in Portugal and it was military members that brought about the carnation revolution. It’s up to the military to split and divide and then that’s how something will get done. But if you know anything about the military, the upper positions are filled with fascist and liberal ambitious self-preservers… This would mean soldiers would have to disobey orders. I pray one day a soldier will have the integrity and the drive. I look at cops and soldiers like the cowards that they are. I have no respect for the so-called law and order that they provide for us. They are submissive stupid cucks at this moment in our timeline. I think if there ever was going to be change in the United States, we would have to suffer for at least a decade. The stupid people that got us in this position will have to be converted and that will take a lot of pain and time. Fascist are idiots and theres going to be chaos. So I just like seeing them fail. Both the liberal fascist and the conservative fascist. We’re going to see more mass protests again. And possibly US soldiers shooting protesters dead in the streets. People are still in denial about their position in the hierarchy. If you’re wondering, yes, America has gone from something like a autocracy to a full-blown dictatorship. You’re just into denial. Pretty soon we’re gonna see people’s true colors. You are eventually going to figure out your position in the hierarchy. Acting out and getting locked up in prison isn’t really going to help the movement either. I think I would pull from… The Civil Rights Movement. and walking the thin line while appealing to your so-called enemy. Hopefully they still have some humanity. with their fake Christianity. Hopefully in the long run this will completely destroy the ridiculous religion of Christianity. Christianity is a virus. I would start thinking about things like the Underground Railroad and mutual aid stuff like that because we’re just getting started baby. Focus on Secure Technologies and Communication. Vet your people
Another classic example. FDR’s New Deal was failing during late 1930’s and early 40’s and he needed to boost the US economy, get rid of the critics and send the unemployed off to war. Lt. Cmdr. Arthur McCollum’s created an eight-point memorandum and each one of them was designed to produce an attack from Japan.
As Krasnov continues to destroy the US economy, he will create a fucking situation to revive it and attempt to unify the USA. Iran is on the menu. When, not if, this occurs, the fuckers sucking down the Orange Kool-Aid, mixed with Russian vodka, should volunteer their worthless asses for the US infantry. All wars start with a lie.
Americans largely did not see WW2 as ‘their’ war. They were content with sitting on the sideline and profiting off of it immensely until instigated.
Profiting off of WW2 is what allowed for US ascension to its position today. Its part of why profiting off of a military industrial complex is so deeply entrenched into its cultural ethos. Selling weapons and promoting conflict is how the US got to where it is, so why would it stop now?
Not really. Most Americans were quite sympathetic to the allied side before the US’s entry into the war. Only very few Americans legit believed that the US should arm the Axis powers and even fewer (around 2%) believed the US should join the war on the Axis side. I got that source from back in 2004, I would swear it was from Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault, but I cannot be sure.
Most of the people at least believed that the US should only be supplying the Allied side at least.
Oh no doubt the US was on the allied side but there’s something to be said about sitting out and selling weapons to your allies while their infrastructure get pummelled (hording wealth from the sales) and then joining only once instigated. That, to me, says that Americans largely did not see it as their war until they were forced to participate.
Wow didn’t know medal of honor: pacific assault was a citable historical source
My ranked teammate’s reading comprehension
You know: when I was a much younger man, I heard of the concept of the 5th column. For those who don’t know, the 5th column is a clandestine group of people, financed by a particular country’s adversary, who is dedicated to destroying that country from the inside. Think the human version of the Trojan Horse.
I’d always pictured this to be a relatively small movement, like a terror cell. A very insular group operating on foreign financing who leveraged an advanced guerilla war skillset to undermine the security apparatus of the country. To my embarrassment, I only realized recently (maybe 5 years ago) that that is not always the case. In America’s case, for example, the 5th column comprises some 70+ million people who are fed on a diet of Russian propaganda and home-grown racist rhetoric. Most of these people have no skillset to speak of, but all of them are willing participants in the utter destruction of a country based on the rule of law and constitutional government.
It seems very odd to me that 1 out of every 5 Americans is a full-on traitor. But, we do live in odd times. 20% of our country seems giddy to return to a monarchy, complete with the whole Louis XIV Sun King “Appointed By God” thing. And what’s strangest of all is that the guy they picked to be their holy sovereign… is a fucking moron. A complete god damned imbecile of the highest order.
If this is a simulation, I’d very much like it to stop.
Edit: I would like to hear from the people who downvoted this; what about what I said is disagreeable to you?
I remember protesting the Afghanistan war in 2001 when the war was incredibly popular… with the Democrats. With the right wing, it was a fucking Jihad.
Everyone, including Democratic party members called the people against the war fifth columnists.
It doesn’t matter how many words you write, calling people with positions you don’t agree with traitors is the most boringly unimaginative way to describe people you don’t like to those you think you do.
You know why right wingers support Trump?
- they’re financially hurting and don’t understand economics
- things changed socially too fast for them and they’re scared.
- they’re hurting, and do understand economics and are happy to burn if it also burns those they blame for their current status.
- they’re assholes.
- etc…
There may be fifth columnists, but it would be somewhere less then a thousand people, but honestly I think that number is closer to zero. Why buy the cow when the milk is free.
Meanwhile, the feckless DNC doesn’t have to fire it’s consultants, or purge the slotkins in their corner, because people are blaming Russia for American actions.
It makes listening to your enemy impossible, too. Why bother trying to win them over, or figure out what drives them so you can stop it, they’re just literal traitors.
I downvoted your post because, as with all accusations of fifth columnists, it is more a post of your failure of imagination and othering Americans with political views you don’t like.
The othering isn’t wrong, innately, but if your answer to the question ‘why are Americans becoming Nazis?’ is Russia, then you’ll never be able to fix the real reasons and stop the flow of fucking Nazis.
EDIT: none of the reasons above are good. But if you don’t know what they are, you can’t do anything about them.
This is like Germany trying to blame some other country for the Nazi Party.
I’m Canadian. I volunteered at the rubble at the WTC for a month as a rescue paramedic. Every time we “foreigners” brought up any resistance to the frothing and war mongering that was going on, we were told to “fuck off and go home”, “you couldn’t possibly understand what is happening here”.
I gave a month of my life away from my family, my work and my home for the benefit of Americans. To give their families some closure, to help heal your country and all I got in return was vitriol and hatred. I stayed. I pushed through as did the rest of my crew.
I haven’t been to the state’s since. I could give a fuck if they self destruct due to their own hatred of others. Fuck em. They all deserve it. They come across the border and I’ll be there waiting.
I bet genestealer cultist were based on this
You’d be surprised at the amount of 5th column groups USA has helped one way or another around the globe
You don’t have to immediately look for a conspiracy to exonerate the guilty. Many Americans truly, honestly believed (and still do) that Hitler’s policies were the correct way forward. Black slavery didn’t just materialize out of thin air either, after all.
You’re wrong.
Or more accurately you have the causality reversed.
“Hitler’s American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law” by James Q Whitman cites the nazis using Jim Crow as their model for Germany.
Nazi legal theorists saw the U.S. as a “pioneer” in racist legislation.
Oh I’m not looking to exonerate ANY of these motherfuckers. If I had my druthers, they’d all fucking hang. Whether they’re home-grown, or Russian sponsored, every single one of them is a fucking traitor.
Edit: honestly, the current situation in America gives me a whole new appreciation for why the French decided they needed to industrialize murder during their revolution, and invented the guillotine to do so.
Edit 2 (Treasonous Boogaloo): I truly mean ALL. Your sweet aunt, who voted for Trump because she was concerned about Fox’s reporting about the migrant caravans at the border? Fucking traitor. I sincerely hope she dies. Your uncle, who’s a bit of a conspiracy nut, who is an avid Alex Jones listener? I pray he gets trapped in a raging inferno. Your parents, who you cut out of your life because they kept ranting about immigrants taking American jobs at every social event? I pray they find themselves trapped in a Cybertruck that’s in the middle of a battery-overload event. Everybody who voted for Trump, regardless of how many times they voted for him, deserves a traitor’s death. 100% of them, zero exceptions, no backsies.
I’m sorry but this just doesn’t work. A society that abandons hope for the redemption of the worst transgressors of its social norms is a society like the US, with the fifth highest incarceration rate in the world (after El Salvador, Cuba, Rwanda, and Turkmenistan). You can’t just kill the traitors just like you can’t just imprison all the murderers and political dissidents.
Redemption does work. It is documented within the most extreme circumstances. It’s not easy and it requires time and resources. But it can only happen with patience and kindness. And I admit that this brings with it a lot of contradictions but I won’t be a part of an extermination campaign no matter how grotesque the vermin might appear.
One of the mistakes Germans (+ occupying forces) and the Austrians made after WW II was pardoning / “washing clean” Nazis after the war. Eg. the Austrian far right party FPÖ was founded by an SS member, and I’d be surprised if the AfD didn’t have Nazis in its family tree as well.
People who support fascism can’t be rehabilitated, except for a tiny minority.
We had the same problem after the civil war.
The slavers were kept out of power for 10 years, with excellent results.
Then political priorities shifted and they were allowed back into power.
Cue the KKK, Jim Crow, and the resumption of ‘Southern Culture’ (ie evil racial brutality).
The nazis were largely displaced for decades, the slaver class wasn’t, and it destroyed America.
But that’s the thing: Nazis weren’t really even displaced, and many kept their jobs in eg. the judiciary because they were seen as indispensable. The failure of denazification was on display especially egregiously in Austria, where you’d have people openly wearing Nazi uniforms years after the war, and they concoted the idea that they were all just unwilling victims of Nazism instead of enthusiastic participants.
I get the strength of your feelings, but for now the MAGAts aren’t actually killing people. Yet, maybe, but that remains to be seen. By calling for their deaths, and doubling down on it, you are making yourself worse than them. Killing political opponents is something we see in places like Russia and Iran, not in a (supposedly) advanced democracy like the USA, where a wide political spectrum is meant to be part of the design.
(BTW I’m British, and a big fan of what America SHOULD be. Somewhat less enthusiastic about what you’ve become.)
The reason we’re seeing this sort of stuff coming to the forefront, IMHO, is because the mainstream political parties aren’t listening to the people’s legitimate concerns about immigration, poor public services, lack of work and so on. So when the Nazis strut in, apparently championing all that stuff, it’s hardly surprising when people vote for them. The solution is not to murder those voters but for the mainstream parties to take that stuff into consideration and make sure the far right remains “fringe”. There will always be far-righters, the trick is to minimise their influence.
The rise of Nazism really needs to be a wakeup call for the moderates: you aren’t listening to some really important stuff, you need to start, and no it’s not “racist”.
I didn’t downvote you, but it’s probably because you said you wanted 70 million people to hang. A lot of people are going to find that pretty distasteful
I mean, I’m sure you don’t have to hang all of them.
Even as incredibly dim as they are, you’d imagine some people would start to get the message after the first few million or so.
Probably. Fuck 'em. Plenty of space on the galley.
Ever since I learnt of the 5th column (thank you video games) it became incredibly obvious that that is precisely what the MAGA movement is.
But that black and white image is all anyone needs to know about America. Fascism has long been the end game for the Underrepresented Slaves of Autocrats (USA).
Turns out half of the country
What a coincidence.
Also, and relevant for the current situation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
That’s too easy to assume that it’s all Russian influence.
Why would American billionaires with more resources available and to lose, let that plan succeed, especially if it is out in the open?
For sure you know https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard
Why is it always only the Russian book that is referenced? Both are published 1997. It’s almost as if they were written together.
What is the winning strategy of the American billionaires in this game? Right now they look like they will become the big losers. I cannot accept any explanation that doesn’t have a strong strategy for them.
The “arm Britain and prolong the war” sign reads to me like the person holding it is campaigning to prolong the war for as long as possible, and the best way they think that we can go about it is by arming Britain.
