US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US “vassals.” He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.
He knows this is BS. I wonder what he’s been up to say something he knows is farcical as smoke and mirror cover. The Republicans could be trying to pass an evil legislation, like allowing to fuck couches.
JD should have done more to self abort while he was still a fetus.
I second this
Based JD Vance blaming everything on Europe instead of Mexicans.
says the guy who can’t hold a trophy without breaking it
“The Iraq war”
Is like saying
“The world war”
Which one?
They mean the one where President Bush and his administration used propaganda to create support for an invasion that caused death, destruction and massive gains for the military industry.
The one Republicans now denounce 20 years after they accused anyone that spoke against it of being terrorist sympathizers.
“You’re either with us or against us.” Fuck you, George.
so russia says they want to feel Taurus? huh.
Why didn’t you stop me from hurting those people? This is all your fault!
Fucking eyelined moron
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To be fair to the EU, republicans could have done more before it even arrived at the feet of the EU
This seems like an attempt to undermine NATO. The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.
By saying Europe had a choice and should have resisted, he lays the foundation for the US to not follow through on their NATO commitments.
Article five wasn’t used in Iraq, only Afghanistan.
It’s not like that matters to the people this propaganda is targeting.
Still a really important correction imo
Which was after 9/11
Yes but Europe was under no obligation to support the US in the Iraq war since it had nothing to do with NATO.
The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.
I’m not sure what your point is.
Uh…
This seems like an attempt to undermine NATO. The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.
By saying Europe had a choice and should have resisted, he lays the foundation for the US to not follow through on their NATO commitments.
I’m saying that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with Europe’s NATO commitments.
Thanks for clearing up the facts around this. I updated my comment above.
He’s a huge piece of shit but he’s right
So now he is saying dont fall in line and please retaliate to our bs?
So he does have a humiliation kink?
I genuinely believe these people are too stupid for this to apply. There is no irony, shame, or humiliation. These cunts are a void of greed.
Why the fuck is VP Bowman ranting about the war his ol’ bush started? Is he trying to fuck the memory of what happened, like the couch no one wants to use in the oval office?
…what…?
Seriously: what the fuck? There was - at best - scant official support in Europe for the war, and public support was nearly nonexistent. The fuck is he on about.
Go home and fuck your loveseat, heterosectional.
They could have idk, introduced sanctions at least. They could have stopped military cooperation and threatened to form their own alliance. It was a deeply unjustified, dare i say criminal war that needed a more forceful response than Europe was able to come up with. I have no great love for the couch fucker but he’s correct here
A few European countries sent troops, but more importantly there was not a peep from Europe about, you know, not creating another refugee crisis in their backyard. He said oppose, not not support. Europe could’ve done more to oppose the Iraq war.
This is interesting, today we know that a conflict in the middle east will cause a large spike in refugees/migrants to the EU, back when the Iraq war started, was that not the case?
Until 2004, the EU was a western European entity, with Greece alone possible to describe as being anywhere near the Middle East, and lacking a land border with the rest of the EU.
The Iraq war did not cause and international migration crisis. People were primarily moved internally and to other (unfriendly) ME countries.
What really started the migration crisis was ISIS and the Syrian war, 10 years later. Where a Russian ally fought the byproduct of American misrule in the Middle East, and Russian allies directed migrants into Eastern European countries unready for them financially or culturally.
Quite what the EU, a non-military force that primarily overlaps with NATO, was supposed to do differently there I don’t know. Should it have predicted that the US would essentially lose to Assad, to the Taliban, and that they would then switch sides and ally with Russia while still in NATO?
What really started the migration crisis was ISIS and the Syrian war, 10 years later.
You’ll find that ISIS, in fact, grew out of the anti-American insurgency in Iraq. They actually weren’t ISIS at first; they were Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Quite what the EU, a non-military force that primarily overlaps with NATO, was supposed to do differently there I don’t know.
Divest from US weapons would’ve been one simple way to make America reconsider their crusade in Iraq.
Yes. I specifically mentioned ISIS came from American misrule in Iraq. The people aligned with ISIS were on America’s side during the Iraq war.
I can picture the pitch to an EU that has just accepted a massive long term project of trying to lift Eastern Europe out of post-Soviet destitution. OK bro, divest bro because obviously the techbros are going to turn America fascist once the boomers implode the world economy in a few years. Just do it bro. Match American military spending bro. You need it bro.
The people aligned with ISIS were on America’s side during the Iraq war.
What people? From what I’ve understood Al Qaeda in Iraq’s predecessor organization was attacking US troops basically right after the invasion.
OK bro, divest bro because obviously the techbros are going to turn America fascist once the boomers implode the world economy in a few years. Just do it bro. Match American military spending bro. You need it bro.
I didn’t say that. I said: Threaten to divest from US weapons if America invades Iraq, because it’s a morally reprehensible illegal war and because it was predictably going to create a massive refugee crisis right in Europe’s backyard.
To be honest I wasn’t even alive when the Iraq war started so I have no idea, but looking back the pieces (immigration from the Middle East to Europe being easy, ethnic and religious rivalries in Iraq getting ugly, America’s inability/unwillingness to install stable governments abroad) were all there so anyone in a relevant EU role who didn’t see it coming should be fired.
I remember when Republicans renamed french fries to freedom fries because France opposed the Iraq War
France opposed the Iraq war and said that the Americans were full of shit when they were claiming that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Of course the Republicans snowflakes did not enjoy that.
Living in a french-speaking country it’s hard to forget.
The reaction at the time was partly bemusement though. We don’t call them “french” anyway, because they’re from Belgium.
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